Atlanta Hawks Official Trade Ideas Thread (Part 1)

[dms269]

The SunTimes out of NYC posts an intriguing trade idea:

Both Millsap and Carrol are going to be free agents so this would likely only work in a sign and trade, and getting a shooter like Korver doesn’t come very often. Plus there is word that Phil Jackson has interest in both of the Hawks’ free agents.

This wouldn't be the worst trade in the world. I'm not sure how we'd look cap-wise after such a move, but this would be an All-In type gambit. Add a vet defensive Center (R Lopez or T Chandler or Asik) keep Teague and start Thabo next to Carmelo.

I don't think it'd get us past CLE, but it could be a good way to finally assess how our offense adjusts to a superstar and get a good feel for Horford's chances at PF. Ironically, I'd be in favor of keeping Teague in this scenario.

Chandler
Horford
Melo
Thabo
Teague

This lineup has scoring, rebounding, interior defense. The biggest weakness would be perimeter defense and three point shooting. Plus we'd have no bench...

But still an interesting thought.

Ew.

What they seem to forget is the salary increase for those guys likely makes the trade a non-starter. Anthony is a no-go in this offense as he is a very iso player like has been said. Not sure where the salary would be to bring in Chandler or Asik though from bringing in a 23 million dollar contract.

[Years80HAWKS]

Trading a solid, proven, starter, All Star veteran still improving for a pick, when your other centrepieces are around or over 30 would be stupid. Bigs help to win, but PGs and scorers get you tittles. Schröeder is still a season ago from being a solid starter.
Rookies take a while to adjust and be productive (as much as 5 years).
We need inmidiate help in the form of veterans and, may be, a good rookie that can contribute with what he can do.
I can only see Kaminsky as that player to give us 15-18 minutes behind Horford or together with Horford.
I would be happy if we do not end Kaminsky and we end up with either Monroe, Robin or another big. The resign both Carroll and Millsap. We then should get a plain scorer at the SF position through the draft.

Teague-Schröeder
Carroll-Korver
Sefolosha-Bazemore
Horford-Kaminsky
Monroe-XXX (¿Ed Davis?)-Tavares
(we could let Milsap go in order to get a real C).

Teague-Schröeder
Carroll-Korver
Sefolosha-XXX-Bazemore
Horford-Millsap
XXX (cheap C)-XXX-Tavares

I think your lineups are way off. There is no way Sefo starts over Korver. Plus if Millsap is brought back it will be him and Horford starting.

Your are probably right.
I do not care about who is starting, but about who is playing the important minutes.
Korver will not be available by the beginning of the season and Carroll is crearly developing his skills towards becoming a better offensive player.
Millsap will probably come back also, but I believe changes are going to happen in order to get better results. I believe better players will be disposed to come here.

[my2bits]

Ditto for the rest of the roster. All three scenarios.

[my2bits]

Hey Guys, did you hear about the proposed Lance Stephenson trade with the Clippers? As we all know Stephenson is a name that has popped up repeatedly here in imagined trade scenarios. It seems that Charlotte is eager to get a deal done. Do you think perhaps we should try and get involved?

[Hawk Eye]

^ absolutely not.

Stephenson plays like a knucklehead and acts like a knucklehead. He can't shoot and he's always making bone-headed plays that seems to cost his team in crucial situations. I think it would be a huge mistake getting involved in trade discussions for him.

[Rip2137]

If it could have netted us Barnes or Hawes I would have been okay with it... well... Barnes... Hawes is kinda horrid

[td00]

I was a Hawes fan and wanted him here when Al was out and we needed help.

Hawes showed some skill last year, but his defense is retched. I think he would have been off our roster by now had we made a move.

[Jamaaliver]

Hey Guys, did you hear about the proposed Lance Stephenson trade with the Clippers? As we all know Stephenson is a name that has popped up repeatedly here in imagined trade scenarios. It seems that Charlotte is eager to get a deal done. Do you think perhaps we should try and get involved?

In our system, with our vets, for one year...it wouldn't have been the worse thing in the world. A low risk, high reward scenario since nothing of value would be given away for him.

My biggest concern would be if he:

A) Clashed with Dennis, our current knucklehead on the roster

or

B) Really hit it off with Dennis, the current knucklehead on the roster.

But we've seen Lance produce at a high level, at a position of need, deep into the playoffs. He's been humbled in CHA. He wants to win again.

Tyson Chandler
Horford
Demarre
Lance Stephenson
Jeff Teague

That's a pretty nasty starting 5 on both sides of the ball.

[my2bits]

Oh well, we're a little late to the party. This went from rumor to substantiated rumor to done deal in a flash. Boy, Doc is fast huh?

[FCNATL85]

And when traded better be for something good...remember Mookie and Smitty?

[hawkschop1]

I would trade the minnesota 1st for jared sullinger in a heart beat, I dont think the Cs or Coach Stevens value Sully as a long term fit. he'd be an excellent 6th or 7th man for us. still on his rookie deal something like 1.4 million.

[atlantabbq99]

Hawks 2015 pick, Hawks 2016 pick, Wolves pick, and cash

I started thinking of the Deng Suns/Bulls trade that happen along time ago. I wonder if any team would be interested in such a package if the Hawks can move up from #15?

[td00]

The timing is probably way off seeing that we have 2 huge FAs on the market, but shouldn't Bud do his due diligence and offer a package that might interest Sacramento?

Is Al, DS or JT, and a #1 this year or next enough to trump other offers? Kings don't want to go young from what I'm reading.

[Jamaaliver]

The timing is probably way off seeing that we have 2 huge FAs on the market, but shouldn't Bud do his due diligence and offer a package that might interest Sacramento?

Is Al, DS or JT, and a #1 this year or next enough to trump other offers? Kings don't want to go young from what I'm reading.

Teague should be enough. They're considering dangling #6 right now for Ty Lawson, and JT0's stock is clearly higher right now. (Though I have Lawson and Teague ranked pretty evenly in my NBA PG rankings.)

But I hear we'd likely have to take back Darren Collison and/or Jason Thompson. Not that I'm opposed to doing so for the #6 pick if we REALLY like someone. But part of the appeal of dumping Teague for a lottery pick is so we also get the additional cap space to massively UPGRADE the roster.

But if we could walk out of this draft with Justise and Portis and still have cap space to court D Wade or Lamarcus...that'd be a massive talent improvement. For short AND long term.

I would trade the minnesota 1st for jared sullinger in a heart beat,

Interesting scenario. I've been pondering whether #15 this year could net us Gorgui Dieng, Otto Porter or Dario Saric from Philly. Any thoughts, guys?

[td00]

Jamaal, Saric is still an unknown to me, but someone our organization probably adores.

If Teague goes, we're all in on DS, and not sure that he and Mack are enough to keep us solid at the 1.
Our pick at 15 this year more than likely doesn't get into the rotation, so we need to make a move for someone who will improve our Top 7.

Lamarcus would be a dream, and DWade would be a major shock. Can Bud convince these guys his system fits their talent?

[td00]

Warriors willing to give up pick 30 if someone will take on David Lee?

Thoughts? How bad would that be for our roster?

[Jamaaliver]

Warriors willing to give up pick 30 if someone will take on David Lee?

Thoughts? How bad would that be for our roster?

If Justin Anderson is available at #30 (an unlikely scenario), I'd be okay with this. David Lee can still play and produce, though his defense is Kevin Love level bad.

But that $15 million price tag for Lee is...mind-blowing. Though it is admittedly only for one year. But, I'm super fearful that we sign Millsap to a similar deal and two years from now we're regretting it as Portis or Lyles or Tavares wait in the wings as a better, cheaper frontcourt option.

[td00]

You know what? If I don't see Lyles at 15, I'm jostling between Anderson and Vaughan. Both seem to fit who we are.

The Lee deal would be easier to handle if Sap wasn't a free agent, but why can't we overspend to improve our roster for one year?
If we do have Lee/Sap/Al, then we have 2 of those free to walk next year, so its a one year attempt to get back to the ECF.

[my2bits]

Hey, have you seen the reports? OKC is offering Perry Jones III and Jeremy Lamb in return for a draft pick. Also Steve Novak is available. The Hawks should take this deal immediately. Perry Jones is someone that would fit this system perfectly. 6'11 SF/PF with 3 pt range and handles? Jeremy Lamb is more talented than Bazemore and would also be a nice fit. That's two good young players for basically nothing and both would become restricted FA's next year.

[my2bits]

Hey, have you seen the reports? OKC is offering Perry Jones III and Jeremy Lamb in return for a draft pick. Also Steve Novak is available. The Hawks should take this deal immediately. Perry Jones is someone that would fit this system perfectly. 6'11 SF/PF with 3 pt range and handles? Jeremy Lamb is more talented than Bazemore and would also be a nice fit. That's two good young players for basically nothing and both would become restricted FA's next year.

Our new line up could look like this:
Horford/Ajinca/Muscala
Perry Jones/Jeremy Evans/Scott
Carroll/Sefalosha
Korver/Lamb/Bazemore
Teague/Dennis/Mack

I think Millsap is gone.