Trades, trades, and trades

[radtech]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2494 ... ion/page/4

Bleacher report has suggested a trade of the number 2 pick and julius Randle for DeMarcus Cousins and Carl Landry. The trade looks to try please Kobe for one last run at a title. It looks appealing because of Cousins abilities to score, rebound, and defend. At only 25 years old you are getting an almost finished product. Landry is not just a throw in but can be the primary reserve off the bench. With the 34th pick, maybe a JP Tokoto, he has great defensive instincts and can play the role of a younger Matt Barnes without all the tats and gangster attitude.

With all the available cap space, maybe trading for a David Lee and their 30th pick. Lee has played well in game 3 and 4 of the Finals. He adds another rebounder and a vet who has a lot to prove in his final year of his contract. He's a mid range shooter who still has a low post game but as always a limited defender. With the 30th pick, maybe a Rashard Vaughn or a RJ Hunter. Both shooters but limited otherwise in other areas.

In terms of free agents maybe Paul Pierce as the 6th man if not starter at small forward. Corey Brewer, a 3 and D wing player. Gerald Green, another wing. Jonas Jerebko, as a stretch 4. Derrick Willimas and or Thomas Robinson, 2 past high lottery picks, 2 young tweeners. CJ Watson, back up point. Any combination of players to fill out the roster.

All last ditch efforts to get Kobe a chance to contend for another title.

I've lived and visited Sacramento, its a cow town, and Cousins would leave in a heart beat and so did I.

[One Love]

It isn't about appeasing Kobe at this juncture it's about building a young core for the next ten years... Okafor & Randle > Cousins all day long... Draft another solid young player and build...

[Pointgod]

This move isn't going to appease Kobe or make us contenders, but it will make us a more attractive destination to a player like Durant which should be our only focus if we're not going to commit to a full rebuild. I'm on the fence with this one. There are really only 5 players that I'd trade that #2 pick for, but then again Cousins is already playing at a level that could be the ceiling of anyone we'd draft. But the potential to tell Durant that he could essentially "build an allstar team" with Cousins and surrounded by a dearth of youth would be almost too good to pass up. Especially if we could sign KJ Mcdaniels and make that David Lee trade to pick up another asset.

[laduane1]

Cousins is making a lot of money, he would cut into the next years cap. Rather go young and not have other players who perform well in there system and not in ours. Kobe will be the one doing all the shooting, so a big man does not need to shot, just rebounds all the misses and protect the rim.

Once we get Kobe 25 million off the books, then they can start to look for shooters and someone to rim protect.

[LApwnd]

no dice....Cousin couldn't take a more talented Sac team a .500 record, what is he gona do with us? and on top of that our salary cap with get cut in half. I do the trade without randle, give them 27th and 34th but anything more I'd pass

[oneseven]

No dice. A Kobe Cousins team still doesn't get more than a round or so out of the west, in the meantime the future is mortgaged by sending away two lottery picks. I'd do #2 but not both. Randle will be special and a great partner in crime for the new era Lakers, with JC.

[Rosque]

I'd give all our this years picks for Couz. Nothing more. I want to have Clarkson-Kobe-Randle-Couz lineup if possible.

[Jody Smokz]

These type of scenario's always annoy me. It's like people that make these trade ideas disregard any recent history on trades. It took Andrew Wiggins, the most hyped prospect since Dwight, Anthony Bennett who at the time had some belief left in his potential and another 1st rounder to get Kevin Love.

LA isn't getting Cousins unless they give up something like #2, Randle AND Clarkson. This trade is dumb for LA b/c Boogie at this point is still all talent but not much else. Great numbers until you realize he's avg like 4.4 TO per game. That's extremely absurd for a big man. To paint a picture of how bad that is its like Bargnani being 7 foot but can barely avg 5 rebs a game with full starter minutes. You can't win with that.

SAC isn't doing the trade anyway and no way LA wants to take on Carl Landry at this juncture.

[Shaq311]

Only trades Lakers need to do is trade Jordan Hill and @Swaggy All About me" Young. Keep adding young and rookie contract players. Once they develop a little then the free agents next summer will RUN to the Lakers!! Stay the course Mr. Kupchack!

[Jody Smokz]

Laker's aren't picking up Hill's option so he's essentially about to be a free agent and not tradeable. No one is giving up anything of substance for Nick Young

Only trades Lakers need to do is trade Jordan Hill and @Swaggy All About me" Young. Keep adding young and rookie contract players. Once they develop a little then the free agents next summer will RUN to the Lakers!! Stay the course Mr. Kupchack!

[oneseven]

These type of scenario's always annoy me. It's like people that make these trade ideas disregard any recent history on trades. It took Andrew Wiggins, the most hyped prospect since Dwight, Anthony Bennett who at the time had some belief left in his potential and another 1st rounder to get Kevin Love.

LA isn't getting Cousins unless they give up something like #2, Randle AND Clarkson. This trade is dumb for LA b/c Boogie at this point is still all talent but not much else. Great numbers until you realize he's avg like 4.4 TO per game. That's extremely absurd for a big man. To paint a picture of how bad that is its like Bargnani being 7 foot but can barely avg 5 rebs a game with full starter minutes. You can't win with that.

SAC isn't doing the trade anyway and no way LA wants to take on Carl Landry at this juncture.

I completely disagree with your example. It 'took' Wiggins-plus to get Love because Minny knew they had Cavs by the nutsack with Lebrown basically demanding publicly from the minute he signed that the Cavs create a big 3 for him. Also, only inking a two year deal that forces their hand to immediately go for a big fish. That is a far cry from what the situation is in these trade scenarios.

[Frank Dux]

No thanks. I like Boogie's game, but i'm not a fan of his attitude, or personality. On the other hand we're almost guaranteed to come out of this draft with Okafor. A guy who is way more professional, and a guy who is just a flat out winner. State champ, NCAA champ as a freshman, and an offensive savant. I think without a doubt Okafor will reach Cousins level. Okafor just seems like the type of guy who gets it. He seems to take the game seriously, and he's not going to come with Cousins baggage.

So no, i'm not on board with trading the farm for a guy who is more or less the same player as Okafor. We'd not only be trading away quality assets, we'd also be taking on a huge contract. Okafor's rookie contract will be one of the most valuable contracts in the league.

[Fresh360Waves]

A lot of people need to get over the idea of trying to "please" Kobe for potentially his final yr. It's all about the future now. Regarding the Cousins trade, there is no point really. They are the same type of player and Okafor has even more upside.

[Pointgod]

Only trades Lakers need to do is trade Jordan Hill and @Swaggy All About me" Young. Keep adding young and rookie contract players. Once they develop a little then the free agents next summer will RUN to the Lakers!! Stay the course Mr. Kupchack!

This is such a backwards way of thinking. How's that working out for teams like the Sixers, Orlando and Wolves? Top tier free agents only want to play with other superstars not draft picks.

[Jody Smokz]

That further makes my point as to why SAC wouldnt do it. They have all the leverage considering Boogie is locked in. I won't say they had Cleveland by the sack, it was a pretty even trade. You got a potential star for a certain star player at the time.

These type of scenario's always annoy me. It's like people that make these trade ideas disregard any recent history on trades. It took Andrew Wiggins, the most hyped prospect since Dwight, Anthony Bennett who at the time had some belief left in his potential and another 1st rounder to get Kevin Love.

LA isn't getting Cousins unless they give up something like #2, Randle AND Clarkson. This trade is dumb for LA b/c Boogie at this point is still all talent but not much else. Great numbers until you realize he's avg like 4.4 TO per game. That's extremely absurd for a big man. To paint a picture of how bad that is its like Bargnani being 7 foot but can barely avg 5 rebs a game with full starter minutes. You can't win with that.

SAC isn't doing the trade anyway and no way LA wants to take on Carl Landry at this juncture.

I completely disagree with your example. It 'took' Wiggins-plus to get Love because Minny knew they had Cavs by the nutsack with Lebrown basically demanding publicly from the minute he signed that the Cavs create a big 3 for him. Also, only inking a two year deal that forces their hand to immediately go for a big fish. That is a far cry from what the situation is in these trade scenarios.

[crazyeights]

Per Wire Tap:

Divac was then asked if he would entertain any offers for Cousins.

"Well, if it's Michael Jordan there, I'll think about it," said Divac before laughing.

Cousins isn't going anywhere.

[Austincys21]

Let's do a Trevor Aliza / Shannon Brown type trade. Let's trade 27 or 34 for guys like Shelvin Mack, Tony Wroten, Terrance Ross, Moe Harkless, or Miles Plumlee... Let's build a solid team and rotation for the future. We have some young talent, let's build post Kobe. Kobe is done people !!! We need more than Boogie to contend next season.

[PKABOOICU]

would love for the lakers to trade for the #4 pick and draft Russell (if available) or Mudiay.

[Spens1]

Per Wire Tap:

Divac was then asked if he would entertain any offers for Cousins.

"Well, if it's Michael Jordan there, I'll think about it," said Divac before laughing.

Cousins isn't going anywhere.

surely that means he is going to Charlotte though