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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#561 » by rzzzzz » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:17 pm

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Nope. He shouldn't be talking to media if he has anything over than good news. Training camp is 3 months away, deal with it then.


I don't know and don't care about the media but I think most fans would like to hear Embiid and the team talk about what going
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Well I think the Sixers honestly don't know one way or the other. Still a waiting game. Personally I would love if someone took the mike and explained explicitly to all the fans what is going on.

But as someone who hopes the Sixers deal with things properly, they should keep him quiet until they know exactly what is going on. Which unfortunately probably isn't true right now due to Jo's mysterious injuries.


i wonder if Embiid is overtly restricted from communicating with the press/public, but Bill Self kind of helped him tell folks that he doesn't think it's all that dire. also wonder where Woj got his story and why he brought up surgery. sure is different from the days when Kate was provoking Doug and everybody was talking.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#562 » by PhilasFinest » Wed Jun 17, 2015 11:43 pm

At the end of the day, we know that we have to proceed with caution with Embiid. Can't let his upside IF healthy persuade anything come draft night.

Hinkie needs to pick whomever he feels has the most STAR potential in the draft. Big, Guard, Wing...Euro or American It simply doesn't matter. Take who you feel has the highest ceiling and let the chips fall wherever they may.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#563 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:24 am

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ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:Man, Tobias Harris would be a hell of an edition!

I don't think Tobias Harris would be that much of an upgrade over Robert Covington, and Harris will cost at least 12X as much.


Yeah no doubt, he'd be expensive...I wouldn't sign Harris with the mindset of him being an upgrade over Robert Covington. I think Covington has got a bright future ahead of him in his own right. He's an excellent outside shooter and a willing defender and more importantly a team player. As for Harris, I really like him as a power forward in a small ball lineup, and I like the fact that he's versatile enough to play either forward position. Between Covington, and what I personally think Jeremi Grant can become and adding Harris, we would have an awesome trio of versatile forwards to pair with Noel, and Embiid. Like I said...I'm just a big Harris fan, but I certainly can't argue with what you are saying either. You have a good point.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#564 » by kingphilly » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:50 am

In my opinion this is a case of hinkie using a minor issue into an advantage.

There is probably some semblance of truth that there was something detected or whatever that isn't 100% ideal, I don't buy the complete smoke screen idea.

However I do see the benefit that Sam could see in letting the masses know about it. This is a big draft for us, and there is no argument that there is an advantage, albeit maybe small, to give teams the impression that we could very well keep okafor or staps or whoever, when in truth we are perhaps targeting a guard

Just giving my opinion. I think there is a chance hinkie is intentionally making a mountain out of a molehole to potentially avoid being pigeonholed in the draft
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#565 » by kingphilly » Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:52 am

I see more advantages to disadvantages to hinkie releasing this news knowing it is more a minor issue than a major one.

And we know how everybody raves about how hinkie loves to have the advantage....

Doesn't seem too far fetched to me
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#566 » by 76ciology » Thu Jun 18, 2015 9:03 am

It's Porzingis, Russell or bust for one of the teams drafting below us. If we show some indication that we will draft Kristap or Russell, they will overpay to trade up.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#567 » by BNelley24 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 12:59 pm

I don't care what anyone says, sometimes PR, fan reaction does play a role in who teams select. The 76ers have surely heard the cries from some of the fan base, even those who are for the plan & have been patient, about seeing their future players on the court already.

Especially with the recent Embiid news, I would bet a LARGE amount of $ we select Russell or Okafor, whoever is left between the two.

I severely doubt we'd trade back, even if the deal was beneficial.

I am a huge Hinkie fan & support our plan 1000%, but at some point, we need to put some potential franchise players on the court for the fans by drafting Russell/Okafor. Will they workout? idk, but it's time to give it a shot.

If we draft Kristaps I will actually be ready to jump off the bandwagon.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#568 » by steveb21 » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:49 pm

If we draft Kristaps I will actually be ready to jump off the bandwagon.


What if Muddiay is their guy? I can see Hinkie raping Orlando again. If we take Kristaps at #3 (who supposedly the Magic like) we could trade him for the #5 and another asset. I wouldn't jump off the bandwagon until the draft is over and the dust has settled.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#569 » by Sixerscan » Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:50 pm

BNelley24 wrote:I don't care what anyone says, sometimes PR, fan reaction does play a role in who teams select. The 76ers have surely heard the cries from some of the fan base, even those who are for the plan & have been patient, about seeing their future players on the court already.

Especially with the recent Embiid news, I would bet a LARGE amount of $ we select Russell or Okafor, whoever is left between the two.

I severely doubt we'd trade back, even if the deal was beneficial.

I am a huge Hinkie fan & support our plan 1000%, but at some point, we need to put some potential franchise players on the court for the fans by drafting Russell/Okafor. Will they workout? idk, but it's time to give it a shot.

If we draft Kristaps I will actually be ready to jump off the bandwagon.


Porzingis will play in the NBA from day 1.

We're a week from the draft. I have no idea who we're going to pick, but I am confident that (1) the Sixers will take someone they think has franchise potential (2) the person will be on the NBA roster in October (3) he will be healthy on draft night.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#570 » by HartfordWhalers » Thu Jun 18, 2015 3:10 pm

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BNelley24 wrote:I don't care what anyone says, sometimes PR, fan reaction does play a role in who teams select. The 76ers have surely heard the cries from some of the fan base, even those who are for the plan & have been patient, about seeing their future players on the court already.

Especially with the recent Embiid news, I would bet a LARGE amount of $ we select Russell or Okafor, whoever is left between the two.

I severely doubt we'd trade back, even if the deal was beneficial.

I am a huge Hinkie fan & support our plan 1000%, but at some point, we need to put some potential franchise players on the court for the fans by drafting Russell/Okafor. Will they workout? idk, but it's time to give it a shot.

If we draft Kristaps I will actually be ready to jump off the bandwagon.


Porzingis will play in the NBA from day 1.

We're a week from the draft. I have no idea who we're going to pick, but I am confident that (1) the Sixers will take someone they think has franchise potential (2) the person will be on the NBA roster in October (3) he will be healthy on draft night.


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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#571 » by Iversean » Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:09 pm

Get well big fell-a, be in the best shape and health before you step onto the court.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#572 » by KramerDSP » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:03 pm

Saw a tweet from Sirius xm radio:

@SiriusXMNBA: .@MikeDunleavySr says he's hearing Joel Embiid's setback will NOT require more surgery, but he could miss start of next year to rest #76ers

Also, Scott O'Neil was apparently on the radio this morning and said that Embiid was not in pain and did not reinjure anything.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#573 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:29 pm

KramerDSP wrote:Saw a tweet from Sirius xm radio:

@SiriusXMNBA: .@MikeDunleavySr says he's hearing Joel Embiid's setback will NOT require more surgery, but he could miss start of next year to rest #76ers

Also, Scott O'Neil was apparently on the radio this morning and said that Embiid was not in pain and did not reinjure anything.


The first part sounds eerily similar to what we heard with Andrew Bynum...I have zero faith in Embiid until proven otherwise.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#574 » by joyeuxnoel » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:46 pm

a core of noel, saric, #3 pick is promising

but without that franchise piece in embiid, its not a legit championship contender. If embiid never stays healthy, it will just prolong the rebuilding period.

we have no idea how serious the healing process is an issue, but all we know for sure is hinkie went through every possible scenario of embiid not being the future of the team although my guess is, and its only a guess that embiid is fine and the sixers are just taking extreme precautions.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#575 » by Ericb5 » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:56 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:
KramerDSP wrote:Saw a tweet from Sirius xm radio:

@SiriusXMNBA: .@MikeDunleavySr says he's hearing Joel Embiid's setback will NOT require more surgery, but he could miss start of next year to rest #76ers

Also, Scott O'Neil was apparently on the radio this morning and said that Embiid was not in pain and did not reinjure anything.


The first part sounds eerily similar to what we heard with Andrew Bynum...I have zero faith in Embiid until proven otherwise.


We can't feel safe until Embiid plays for a full season, or maybe 2 full seasons, without a recurrence of any stress fractures.

However, I think that this is a very different situation than the Bynum one.

Bynum was a stone cold knuckle head with repeated injuries to his knees and supposedly had pain that was so bad that he couldn't play. With Embiid there is no pain or physical impediment to him performing at a high level, or at least having vigorous physical activity.

The issue seems to purely be one of longterm risk of reinjury and whether further rest at this stage could help.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#576 » by MountainDrew » Fri Jun 19, 2015 3:59 pm

Why would Dunleavy Sr have any sources/info on this? As far as I know, he doesn't have any link to Embiid or the Sixers.

The whole "setback" thing seems just untrue, but it's obviously still not good that he's not healing as fast as planned. Just have to wait and see to find out how bad it actually is, but media has blown the whole thing out of proportions.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#577 » by wickedwrister » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:07 pm

http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/scott-o%E2%80%99neil-three-more-doctors-coming-see-joel-embiid

3 more doctors coming to see Embiid, final answer in a few weeks. Still not ruled out of summer league.
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Re: Uh oh, Embiid suffers setback per Woj 

Post#578 » by KramerDSP » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:32 pm

wickedwrister wrote:http://www.csnphilly.com/basketball-philadelphia-76ers/scott-o%E2%80%99neil-three-more-doctors-coming-see-joel-embiid

3 more doctors coming to see Embiid, final answer in a few weeks. Still not ruled out of summer league.


Last Saturday night, the Sixers received some discouraging news on Joel Embiid.

Embiid's right foot was healing slower than expected and that surgery is still possible. From there, the question of whether drafting Embiid was a mistake — CSNPhilly.com John Gonzalez says it was still the right call — arose.

Less than 24 hours after the team revealed its new jerseys, CEO Scott O'Neil stopped by the Breakfast on Broad set Friday, where he gave an update on the Kansas product.

"We're trying to figure out with a 21-year-old how do you focus wholly on long-term health and wellness and make sure he's OK," O'Neil said. "So what we're doing now is seeing experts, the best experts from around the world to make sure we make the right decisions with him and his family and do the best.

"And everyone wants to jump to the worst conclusion, which is … people can jump to whatever they want. It's just not healing at the same rate we'd like to see."

O'Neil confirmed Embiid didn't re-injure his foot. While the 7-footer has been shut down now from working out, O'Neil said the Sixers don't know if he'll miss summer league yet.

"We're still waiting," O'Neil said. "We have another three doctors to come see him. The nice thing about jobs like these — you can literally get the best experts in the world. All you have to do is call and they would love to see us."

As for when O'Neill expects an answer, he said, "A couple of weeks."
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Post#579 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:36 pm

Man, I really hope Joel is ready to roll at the start of the season. In that piece, O'Neil also mentioned the possibility of Dario coming over this year. Couple the arrival of those two guys with the #3 would make things very exciting, especially with those sexy new jerseys.
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Post#580 » by MountainDrew » Fri Jun 19, 2015 4:45 pm

Sounds good! Love the fact that he isn't ruled out of summer league yet, but obviously shouldn't get my hopes up too much.
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