Rebuild the bench

[blind prophet]

The quote was years ago, not recent, before the modernization of the PF spot and Cousins became arguably the best center in the league

I thought so.

We can't do much on offense to force other teams to have their pf guard him if they don't want to. We just need someone interchangeable to pair with him with our defensive schemes.

[SacKingZZZ]

Seriously, what defines the position you play? Is it who you defend? Is it who defends you? No team runs a straight offensive set based around any particular player or position, the lines are always blurred. The only way Cousins would ever be a PF is if he's next to another big that can do the same things he does and the other team puts a smaller player on him. If he's next to Cauley-Stein it really doesn't matter, they are going to put their biggest and beefiest defender on Cuz and pound on him the whole game and they are going to put their PF on WCS. Cauley-Stein doesn't really have the ability to take advantage of smaller players either so there really won't be much of an advantage for Cuz in the end. It would finally give this team a legit pick and roll big though. The problem there is a pick and roll game won't involve Cousins so....

[City of Trees]

Seriously, what defines the position you play? Is it who you defend? Is it who defends you? No team runs a straight offensive set based around any particular player or position, the lines are always blurred. The only way Cousins would ever be a PF is if he's next to another big that can do the same things he does and the other team puts a smaller player on him. If he's next to Cauley-Stein it really doesn't matter, they are going to put their biggest and beefiest defender on Cuz and pound on him the whole game and they are going to put their PF on WCS. Cauley-Stein doesn't really have the ability to take advantage of smaller players either so there really won't be much of an advantage for Cuz in the end. It would finally give this team a legit pick and roll big though. The problem there is a pick and roll game won't involve Cousins so....

what defines your position is your place within the system. I guess at PF we would see more of a Cousins face up game (no one should be a fan of that)

[SacKingZZZ]

Seriously, what defines the position you play? Is it who you defend? Is it who defends you? No team runs a straight offensive set based around any particular player or position, the lines are always blurred. The only way Cousins would ever be a PF is if he's next to another big that can do the same things he does and the other team puts a smaller player on him. If he's next to Cauley-Stein it really doesn't matter, they are going to put their biggest and beefiest defender on Cuz and pound on him the whole game and they are going to put their PF on WCS. Cauley-Stein doesn't really have the ability to take advantage of smaller players either so there really won't be much of an advantage for Cuz in the end. It would finally give this team a legit pick and roll big though. The problem there is a pick and roll game won't involve Cousins so....

what defines your position is your place within the system. I guess at PF we would see more of a Cousins face up game (no one should be a fan of that)

But we see plenty of that anyway. He's mostly a face up player as it is, even his post ups usually end in a face up spin or drive play. There are no true bigs that can hang with his cross over drive to the hoop.

[benchmobbin02]

Seriously, what defines the position you play? Is it who you defend? Is it who defends you? No team runs a straight offensive set based around any particular player or position, the lines are always blurred. The only way Cousins would ever be a PF is if he's next to another big that can do the same things he does and the other team puts a smaller player on him. If he's next to Cauley-Stein it really doesn't matter, they are going to put their biggest and beefiest defender on Cuz and pound on him the whole game and they are going to put their PF on WCS. Cauley-Stein doesn't really have the ability to take advantage of smaller players either so there really won't be much of an advantage for Cuz in the end. It would finally give this team a legit pick and roll big though. The problem there is a pick and roll game won't involve Cousins so....

what defines your position is your place within the system. I guess at PF we would see more of a Cousins face up game (no one should be a fan of that)

But we see plenty of that anyway. He's mostly a face up player as it is, even his post ups usually end in a face up spin or drive play. There are no true bigs that can hang with his cross over drive to the hoop.

Exactly. And as Karl said after WCS workout when asked about him being a compliment to DMC, "Demarcus is so good at the top, he (WCS) can be underneath and his skill of off rebounding and running the court and getting up the court before the defense sets. And then Demarcus can be a trail and run the secondary qb, usually the second big trailing the play, all that can be very efficient and effective." Source https://youtu.be/C_u4RwHXbcs?t=3m29s

Like how Blake (the power forward) is used with Deandre Jordan (the center).

[benchmobbin02]

The quote was years ago, not recent, before the modernization of the PF spot and Cousins became arguably the best center in the league

I thought so.

Proof needed before you can discredit Ryen Russillo statement. In the twitter he has DMC saying the reason he wants WCS at 6 is so he doesn't have to play center. Points to it being said this year due to the inclusion of the 6th pick (first time we picked 6th in DMC's tenure with us) and WCS being the player named. Not saying your wrong, just need proof if you wanna call him a liar basically and discredit his tweet of DMC statement just to fit your argument.

[Kings2013]

The quote was years ago, not recent, before the modernization of the PF spot and Cousins became arguably the best center in the league

I thought so.

Proof needed before you can discredit Ryen Russillo statement. In the twitter he has DMC saying the reason he wants WCS at 6 is so he doesn't have to play center. Points to it being said this year due to the inclusion of the 6th pick (first time we picked 6th in DMC's tenure with us) and WCS being the player named. Not saying your wrong, just need proof if you wanna call him a liar basically and discredit his tweet of DMC statement just to fit your argument.

I think he is referring to this from two years ago
http://cowbellkingdom.com/demarcus-cousins-on-role-with-team-usa-and-more-following-mini-camp-day-2/

Cousins on what type of big man would compliment him best: “I love playing with Jason Thompson, don’t get me wrong, but I believe I would play better if I had a shot-blocking big. I’m not the greatest shot blocker and I can move to the four and play my natural position. I can balance it out either way.”

I haven't seen anything before or since, and I'm a avid Kings fan that tunes into the news. If Cousins has publicly said this more recently, I haven't seen it and someone can point it out. In the tweet there is no direct quote from Cousins

Again, I wasn't calling Russilo a liar, but I believe he was going on dated info. My points still stand, I think the comment was before his ascension at the center position and before some of the recent changes at the position (becoming more athletic position). But its all opinion

[benchmobbin02]

Yeah definitely opinion.

[lakerhater]

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Interesting but I think some trades will have to be a part of the picture this summer if for nothing more than to cut out some redundancy and allow the Kings to really be in the free agency picture. I'm looking at potential sign and trades involving Nik or Ben if I'm Vlade. I also see a decent bench on the team already, unfortunately two of those on that decent bench were starting last year. That said:

Since you didn't say: Stretch and waive Jason Thompson (I'm not sure you can do that with Landry since he was a post CBA signing, if you can then him instead)

Draft: Justise Winslow

Sign: Kyle O'Quinn 2 yr 4 million, Omri Casspi 2 yr 6 million w/ player option for the 2nd year, Bismack Biyombo 3 yr 21 million, Andre Miller at the minimum, Reggie at the minimum

Starting lineup:

PG: Collison
SG: Winslow
SF: Casspi
PF: Gay
C: Cousins

Bench:

PG: McCallum
SG: McLemore
SF: Stauskas
PF: O'Quinn
C: Biyombo

Instead of stretching JT how about JT for Calderon? JC >>RM

[blind prophet]

Instead of stretching JT how about JT for Calderon? JC >>RM

Nah, we've all ready had the guy who can spot shoot and pass but have concrete feet here in Grevis. It was a disaster.

Now give us a crafty OG like Miller and it worked, who is a superior passer by far and it did work.

Besides Calderon's contract is terrible, even worse than Landry.

JT is useful being capable of guarding the 4 or 5, shows up for 80 games a year. Landry is efficient shooting .515 and without any shooters around him it is actually pretty impressive to see him shooting over 500, the fit for him here is terrible though, we've got the minimum from Landry because of that.

Calderon for Landry may get some takers around here though, Landry is hurt, people are tired of him and at least you break up the Jarl Thompandry situation into big and small.

Not me though, if we want that budget play maker we've got Miller for cheap right here, and I think his team mates, the coaches, the fans all love the guy too.