2015 Draft Thread - Part 1

stevemcqueen1 · Post #1421 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:24 pm

Man, not a big fan of the guard and wing class in free agency this summer. There aren't many MLE candidates among them. I want us to snag a PF with our pick this year, but more than that, I want us to go BPA. Seeing how thin the free agent crop is, I wouldn't be sad to see us pick a Jerian Grant.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #1422 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:25 pm

dckingsfan wrote:Also, opinions on if we should draft a guard, wing or PF? I am thinking it should be a PF because we already have young players at the other positions...

I think you have to go BPA no matter the position. I'd prefer the BPA to be a PF but you can't force it to be. 19 is so late that you have to go BPA to give yourself the best chance of finding a rotation player.

Post #1423 » by **Rafael122** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:39 pm

RJ Hunter coming in for a workout on Tuesday per Andy Katz. I think tomorrow is the last workout day for the Wizards

jivelikenice · Post #1424 » by **jivelikenice** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:41 pm

Rafael122 wrote:RJ Hunter coming in for a workout on Tuesday per Andy Katz. I think tomorrow is the last workout day for the Wizards

Is that his first workout here? Anyone else coming with him?

ptptpt · Post #1425 » by **ptptpt** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:49 pm

Rafael122 wrote:RJ Hunter coming in for a workout on Tuesday per Andy Katz. I think tomorrow is the last workout day for the Wizards

YESH! Mo shootas. Mo shootas. Hope they draft him.

dckingsfan · Post #1426 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:53 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Also, opinions on if we should draft a guard, wing or PF? I am thinking it should be a PF because we already have young players at the other positions...

I think you have to go BPA no matter the position. I'd prefer the BPA to be a PF but you can't force it to be. 19 is so late that you have to go BPA to give yourself the best chance of finding a rotation player.

Aren't there two schools of thought there? One to take the BPA and the other BPA around fit?

fishercob · Post #1427 » by **fishercob** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:00 pm

dckingsfan wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Also, opinions on if we should draft a guard, wing or PF? I am thinking it should be a PF because we already have young players at the other positions...

I think you have to go BPA no matter the position. I'd prefer the BPA to be a PF but you can't force it to be. 19 is so late that you have to go BPA to give yourself the best chance of finding a rotation player.

Aren't there two schools of thought there? One to take the BPA and the other BPA around fit?

There used to be, but one of them closed due to a funding shortage. There's only one school now, sadly.

Oh, and BPA.

dckingsfan · Post #1428 » by **dckingsfan** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:21 pm

fishercob wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:
I think you have to go BPA no matter the position. I'd prefer the BPA to be a PF but you can't force it to be. 19 is so late that you have to go BPA to give yourself the best chance of finding a rotation player.

Aren't there two schools of thought there? One to take the BPA and the other BPA around fit?

There used to be, but one of them closed due to a funding shortage. There's only one school now, sadly.

Okay, that one gave me a good laugh :lol:

FAH1223 · Post #1429 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:28 pm

nuposse04 wrote:
FAH1223 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/WashWizards/status/613018488869920768[/tweet]

Mid range.... I see Randy is already working his "magic" on him, lol...

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WashWizards/status/613050841566740480[/tweet]

Atleast he mentions stretch 4 here

Post #1430 » by **nate33** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:00 am

Hmmm. Looney played some point guard in high school.

fishercob · Post #1431 » by **fishercob** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:08 am

nate33 wrote:Hmmm. Looney played some point guard in high school.

Saw that. Just like former Hoya and Piston Jerome Williams who had a massive growth spurt late in high school. The combo of Looney's offensive skill, rebounding, and size make him an intriguing prospect.

hands11 · Post #1432 » by **hands11** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:45 am

nate33 wrote:
stevemcqueen1 wrote:Building line ups with Wall and Hollis-Jefferson is still difficult though. Particularly when you don't have a reliable shooter at PF. Sure would be nice to have Kevin Love. Or for Paul Pierce to come back. But barring that, I see Anderson as being a pretty happy compromise. Not quite as long or big as Hollis-Jefferson, but a credible shooter that we wouldn't have to scheme around. A Wall/Beal/Anderson/Porter/Gortat lineup is a well balanced small ball unit.

Yeah, that's the problem. Other teams can play a non-shooting SF for stretches because they have 3-point shooting from the PG, and SG spots, and usually from the PF as well. Our PG can't shoot, and the shooting from our PF position is iffy at best.

Delon Wright on the rise.. up to 21st from 27th.

Dekker falling from 16th to 20th

Justin Anderson is at 27th.. I'm not worried to much about his shooting. He fixed his form issues and is getting great results. He will keep improving. A better version of Booker.

Here was where I started when looking for players...

Cameron Payne but he move up to high.. Tyus as well. Now Tyus is back down in range. Dude is clutch.

Wall/Sessions - Oliver Hanlan or Micheal Frazier
Beal/Webster - Oliver Hanlan or Micheal Frazier
Otto/PP - Justin Anderson or Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Hump/Gooden - Justin Anderson or Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Gortat/Nene/Blair

Been a while since I looked at Oliver but he never worked out here, but Frazier is someone that has keep my interest but I don't think he worked out either. That sucks..

-Olivier Hanlan PG/SG (Boston College - Junior) 22.2 years old | 6'4" | 186 lbs solid young man. ACC Freshman of the year.

Since then, I stumbled into Tyler Harvey (G, 6-4, Eastern Washington) who I would get if I could. Kid can flat out shoot. A total natural with a quick release. That's hard to teach. Thing is, his form isn't even ideal but he still strokes it. That when you know something has it.

Also liked..

- Delon Wright 6-6 23 .. nice all around PG game.. needs to work on shooting. Elite defender guards 1 and 2. Always in stance draws charges Great instincts. Closes out of jump shooters and blocks, steal inbound players, Rebounds, Quick feet. Heady game. Keep players on his back. Euro step. Changes speed. Show he understands the game. can stop on dime and step back cross over. Sets players up to dribble the other direction doubling back. Splits defenders. Step through. Floater. Pump fakes.Draws fouls. brother in NBA But thin, average wing span, needs lots of work on shooting confidence and age 23

Then there is

Jordan Mickey PF/C (LSU - Sophomore) 20.9 years old | 6'8" | 238 lbs http://www.nba.com/blazers/martin04jun15#
Great base. Long arms. Cobbles up rebounds. Blocks shots. Modern day small ball center.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jordan-Mickey-7104/

We aren't looking for a franchise saver. Just solid pieces that fit that are cheap in solid young men that will grow.

Well we worked out, Delon Wright, Jordan Mickey, Tyler Harvey and both Justin Anderson or Rondae Hollis-Jefferson. That's the good news.

So they can get one off.

Delon Wright
Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Kevon Looney
Justin Anderson
Jordan Mickey

and

Tyler Harvey
Norman Powell

I would be happy with Micky and Harvey

But it looks like we have a nice group to pick from that should fix nicely with KD

dangermouse · Post #1433 » by **dangermouse** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:14 am

I'm on the Looney bandwagon. I'm singing the Looney Tune.

Get him. If he is there, imo he is a steal.

hands11 · Post #1434 » by **hands11** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:28 am

nate33 wrote:Hmmm. Looney played some point guard in high school.

The next coming of Anthony Davis... quick.. grab him.

hands11 · Post #1435 » by **hands11** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:37 am

dangermouse wrote:I'm on the Looney bandwagon. I'm singing the Looney Tune.

Get him. If he is there, imo he is a steal.

But... you have to ask...

With that size..length..the handles and S4 label everyone wants... what is he doing at 23 if he is all that ?

He should be up near 14 with that profile. Specially at only 19 years old.

oh and this..

Kristaps Porzingis 7'1.25" w/out shoes, 7'6 wingspan, 230 lbs.

That's amazing.

There are a few of these real interesting prospects in the draft. Add Wood to the list. Hopefully one of them reaches their potential. Hell there is even Upshaw and some other less talked about projects Guillermo Hernangomez and Mouhammadou Jaiteh .

This is a real nice draft class.

FAH1223 · Post #1436 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:08 am

hands11 wrote:
dangermouse wrote:I'm on the Looney bandwagon. I'm singing the Looney Tune.

Get him. If he is there, imo he is a steal.

But... you have to ask...

With that size..length..the handles and S4 label everyone wants... what is he doing at 23 if he is all that ?

He should be up near 14 with that profile. Specially at only 19 years old.

Probably because at UCLA he wasn't asked to show his versatility a lot especially off the bounce.

He was a cleanup player getting a lot of rebounds and hitting the occasional 3 pointer.

I could see the Bucks taking him. But then again, they're going to play Parker at stretch PF... and they need more scorers. They did just get rid of Ersan though..

thinker07 · Post #1437 » by **thinker07** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:01 am

This is how I look at the draft. It's all about lining up for 2016 and KD, They have a number of holes in the lineup with a limited ability to do too much in free agency because we likely won't want to commit money for the following year. But we need to do well this year and show that we have a solid base for KD. The likliest guess is that Pierce will not return as well.

This says to me the team will sacrifice some upside in return for some ready to play. Also with our roster I think we just don't have enough good shooters at whatever position. Looking at guys who we've worked out (I know EG doesn't always draft guys he worked out) that rules out Wood (not ready to play), RHJ (can't shoot), Looney (not really ready to play), Vaughn (probably too young not ready to play) and rules in Justin Anderson, Bobby Portis, and Jerian Grant, RJ Hunter, and maybe Delon (thought not regarded as a shooter). I would think the guy they want from this list the most is Portis but he is expected to be taken before we pick.

BUT, I've seen that Indiana and Oklahoma both might try to trade out of their spots if their man is gone and they might both be after the same guy - Cameron Payne. I also don't know how committed Boston is to their pick with eleventy million more picks coming in the next several years. We don't have a lot to trade but do have our first for next year which may be of a little less use to us with our new superstar free agent (KD or someone else) and our veteran roster going for the championship. So I wouldn't be stunned to see us trade up for Portis or maybe Lyles. If not I think it will make sense to get one of the "ready" guards - Anderson, Grant, Hunter, Wright. They all may have less upside but look that they could be role players in their rookie years which will make our bench look a lot more solid in the summer of 2016.

While I'm at it - my shocking prediction - EG will NOT sell the 2nd round pick because he won't be able to with Philly having 5 2nd rounders including 3 before our pick -- they're just going to kill any market for our pick.

Before you all crush me -- this is based on the notion we would go for ready and shooters. I'm not saying these are the best talents.

hands11 · Post #1438 » by **hands11** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:54 am

Wizards are getting in some late work in...

R.J. Hunter headlines what is likely the Wizards' final pre-draft workout Tuesday at Verizon Center.

Three other potential first round picks -
46 UNLV forward Christian Wood,
31 Stanford swingman Anthony Brown,
39 French center Mouhammadou Jaiteh

Interesting... almost looks like they are picking up a high 2nd... Thomas for a high 2nd ? We got him for a high second.

Picks a 19 and 49.. this is who they brought in.

16 Bobby Portis (F, 6-10, Arkansas)
17 R.J. Hunter headlines what is likely the Wizards' final pre-draft workout Tuesday at Verizon Center.
19 Jerian Grant (Notre Dame, PG, 6-5)
21 Delon Wright (PG, Utah, 6-5)
22 Rondae Hollis-Jefferson SF (Arizona - Sophomore)
23 Looney...

26 Rashad Vaughn (G, 6-5, UNLV)
27 Justin Anderson SF (Virginia - Junior)
31 Stanford swingman Anthony Brown,
37 Jordan Mickey PF/C (LSU - Sophomore) 20.9 years old | 6'8" | 238 lbs http://www.nba.com/blazers/martin04jun15#
39 French center Mouhammadou Jaiteh

46 UNLV forward Christian Wood,
50 Norman Powell SG (UCLA - Senior)
51 Satnam Singh (C, 7-2, India)
55 Tyler Harvey (G, 6-4, Eastern Washington)

Illmatic12 · Post #1439 » by **Illmatic12** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:06 pm

Looney won't even be there at 19. His stock has definitely gone up in the past few weeks.

Post #1440 » by **nate33** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:26 pm

Illmatic12 wrote:Looney won't even be there at 19. His stock has definitely gone up in the past few weeks.

Chad Ford had him at #19 in his mock last week. Draft Express has him at #23. If anything, he has dropped a bit. It's not so much that he has disappointed, it's just that some other guys like Payne and Hunter have moved up recently.

But who knows. At this point, most leaks to reporters are probably misinformation anyhow. I think anything outside of the first 7 picks or so is a crapshoot.