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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#61 » by 32lakers33 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:00 am

The time to acquire Wade would have been when the team blew up Shaq and Kobe. Had the Lakers been smart (and I said this at the time) they should have traded Kobe for Wade. Now some here will scream thats sacrilegious. Think about it though Wade would have come to a team very capable of putting up 1 if not two championships with him and Shaq and when James opted out of Cleveland instead of bolting to Miami he would have bolted to LA. Once he was in LA he may not have wanted to go back to Cleveland. Getting Wade at this juncture would be another bad decision in a long line of them since the passing of Dr Buss.
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Post#62 » by LApwnd » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:31 am

32lakers33 wrote:The time to acquire Wade would have been when the team blew up Shaq and Kobe. Had the Lakers been smart (and I said this at the time) they should have traded Kobe for Wade. Now some here will scream thats sacrilegious. Think about it though Wade would have come to a team very capable of putting up 1 if not two championships with him and Shaq and when James opted out of Cleveland instead of bolting to Miami he would have bolted to LA. Once he was in LA he may not have wanted to go back to Cleveland. Getting Wade at this juncture would be another bad decision in a long line of them since the passing of Dr Buss.

And how would you know if mgmt couldve freed up cap the way mia did? You know they went through like 3-4 yrs of mediocrity after they traded shaq right capt. Hindsight? The time to get wade was when we traded shaq and wade was barely emerging, shouldn't have settles for butler
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Post#63 » by john248 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:27 am

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kblo247 wrote:Anyone acting like Lin was a positive doesn't get it. That cap hit didn't matter because it didn't do anything to improve us. It was 14mil for pick 27. Lin wasn't an asset, he won't be retained, he didn't help the team win, he was essentially a guy we paid 14 mil for in exchange for 27


There was no one else worth getting. The lakers didnt care about the money and it was an opportunity to get something for nothing. At the time, the pick was anywhere in the 20s. Hindsight is 20/20 but I dont see any other deal at that point that would have made us better long term.

Only real available big money guys were Monroe and Bledsoe. Bledsoe would have been matched and Monroe has not proven he can get a team win anything. Hell, the Pistons had Drummond, Jennings and later on Jackson and still didnt make the playoffs in the East.

At least at this point in time, we have the 2nd pick, still have cap room, still have that 27th pick while not trying to get rid of a contract that we mistakenly could have given away to a player who would not have made a difference except to make us marginally better and probably give the sixers another lotto pick.

Was it a great deal? Absolutely not. But we are not in as bad a position that you think. We have a high pick and cap space.


I agree mostly. I don't think it was ever meant to be a great deal. It was simply to acquire asset. Going into the 14-15 season, everyone knew it was a throw away year. To be able to acquire a 1st round pick is a good thing even if it's in the late 20s. Will this drafted player ever amount to anything? Chances are probably not. We're looking at an end of the rotation player who would have to be developed in the long term. Maybe the Lakers get lucky and draft another productive player like Clarkson was who was drafted in the 2nd. But for the Lakers, it's a good idea to take that chance. It's good to have these draft picks since they are on cheap contracts and fill the roster.

Whether Lin was paid $14 mil or how good or bad anyone thinks of him doesn't even matter here. The fact of the matter is the Lakers have two...TWO...1st round draft picks which includes the #2 pick. Hindsight is looking pretty good now.
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#64 » by john248 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:29 am

32lakers33 wrote:The time to acquire Wade would have been when the team blew up Shaq and Kobe. Had the Lakers been smart (and I said this at the time) they should have traded Kobe for Wade. Now some here will scream thats sacrilegious. Think about it though Wade would have come to a team very capable of putting up 1 if not two championships with him and Shaq and when James opted out of Cleveland instead of bolting to Miami he would have bolted to LA. Once he was in LA he may not have wanted to go back to Cleveland. Getting Wade at this juncture would be another bad decision in a long line of them since the passing of Dr Buss.


You joined the forum just to post that? I'm happy 2009 and 2010 happened with Kobe. Just saying.
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#65 » by 32lakers33 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:47 am

Oh I didnt realize I had to have something grander to say when I joined. The Lakers could have gone one to win championships with wade and without Kobe. Kobe has bee a key element in ruining this franchise twice. Ill be glad when he is gone.
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Post#66 » by dockingsched » Tue Jun 23, 2015 1:56 pm

32lakers33 wrote:Oh I didnt realize I had to have something grander to say when I joined. The Lakers could have gone one to win championships with wade and without Kobe. Kobe has bee a key element in ruining this franchise twice. Ill be glad when he is gone.


Kobe was a free agent in 2004 and signed his contract extension a day after shaq was traded, so no, there is no such possibility of trading Kobe for wade or trading Kobe for anyone. Kobe was free to go wherever he wanted and the lakers could do nothing about it.
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Post#67 » by mcscotty » Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:52 pm

Wade can opt in for 16.1 millie. Why doesn't he just gamble on himself for a big payday in 2016?
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#68 » by 32lakers33 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:46 am

dockingsched wrote:
32lakers33 wrote:Oh I didnt realize I had to have something grander to say when I joined. The Lakers could have gone one to win championships with wade and without Kobe. Kobe has bee a key element in ruining this franchise twice. Ill be glad when he is gone.


Kobe was a free agent in 2004 and signed his contract extension a day after shaq was traded, so no, there is no such possibility of trading Kobe for wade or trading Kobe for anyone. Kobe was free to go wherever he wanted and the lakers could do nothing about it.



Actually they could have its called a sign and trade.
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#69 » by Kobe System » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:50 am

32lakers33 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
32lakers33 wrote:Oh I didnt realize I had to have something grander to say when I joined. The Lakers could have gone one to win championships with wade and without Kobe. Kobe has bee a key element in ruining this franchise twice. Ill be glad when he is gone.


Kobe was a free agent in 2004 and signed his contract extension a day after shaq was traded, so no, there is no such possibility of trading Kobe for wade or trading Kobe for anyone. Kobe was free to go wherever he wanted and the lakers could do nothing about it.



Actually they could have its called a sign and trade.


So you think Kobe would want to do sign and trade to play for Miami? Troll harder.
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#70 » by 32lakers33 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:04 am

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32lakers33 wrote:
dockingsched wrote:
Kobe was a free agent in 2004 and signed his contract extension a day after shaq was traded, so no, there is no such possibility of trading Kobe for wade or trading Kobe for anyone. Kobe was free to go wherever he wanted and the lakers could do nothing about it.



Actually they could have its called a sign and trade.


So you think Kobe would want to do sign and trade to play for Miami? Troll harder.



First off not trolling but thanks for trying there are some nice parting gifts for you. Its called money the Lakers would have been able to sign him for more than other teams. If not the Heat there were other tams out there with pieces that the Lakers could have traded him too. There is also the fact they could have signed him and not told him they were trading him to anywhere.
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Post#71 » by Kobe System » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:12 am

32lakers33 wrote:
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32lakers33 wrote:

Actually they could have its called a sign and trade.


So you think Kobe would want to do sign and trade to play for Miami? Troll harder.



First off not trolling but thanks for trying there are some nice parting gifts for you. Its called money the Lakers would have been able to sign him for more than other teams. If not the Heat there were other tams out there with pieces that the Lakers could have traded him too. There is also the fact they could have signed him and not told him they were trading him to anywhere.


You're OP is dealing Kobe for Wade while keeping Shaq. Kobe was a FREE AGENT that time and he won't accept being traded to Miami to play with what's left after he was traded there. My bad, if you're not trolling. It's just doesn't make sense.

To cut this short, that time, we need to choose between Kobe or Shaq. And I am glad with the decision we made.
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Post#72 » by Penberthy » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:04 pm

mcscotty wrote:Wade can opt in for 16.1 millie. Why doesn't he just gamble on himself for a big payday in 2016?


Because he knows the odds.
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#73 » by Sofa King » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:32 pm

mcscotty wrote:Wade can opt in for 16.1 millie. Why doesn't he just gamble on himself for a big payday in 2016?

He's not getting a big pay day in 2016 if he keeps getting injured.
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Re: Wade and Lakers have mutual interest 

Post#74 » by Sofa King » Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:33 pm

dockingsched wrote:
32lakers33 wrote:Oh I didnt realize I had to have something grander to say when I joined. The Lakers could have gone one to win championships with wade and without Kobe. Kobe has bee a key element in ruining this franchise twice. Ill be glad when he is gone.


Kobe was a free agent in 2004 and signed his contract extension a day after shaq was traded, so no, there is no such possibility of trading Kobe for wade or trading Kobe for anyone. Kobe was free to go wherever he wanted and the lakers could do nothing about it.

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