FREE AGENT/Trade/Transaction Idea thread

Post #4441 » by **NoLayupRule** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:11 pm

And100 wrote:
Stoosh wrote:
kej718 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Offseason_News/status/613138961037434880[/tweet]

So about Afflalo...

He's a below average NBA basketball player by any and all measures asides from inexplicable reputation.

this just means that Portland will offer him too much or less than he thinks he's worth and then he will walk from them further initiating the exodus from Port

no way mathews gets more than 10mil outside of Port who might be desperate enough to keep their team intact to offer it

and Affalo has dropped off, waaay off

I argued vehemently in his favor last year but seeing him play for Port really made me question those beliefs

nayyyyyyyyo09 · Post #4442 » by **nayyyyyyyyo09** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:11 pm

And100 wrote:
Stoosh wrote:
kej718 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Offseason_News/status/613138961037434880[/tweet]

So about Afflalo...

He's a below average NBA basketball player by any and all measures asides from inexplicable reputation.

He's worth the money, take him and don't look back. People think he's supposed to be some kind of offensive weapon but he isn't. It's his defense that gets the work done (coming from a Denver fan who's sad to see him gone again too soon)

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Dr. Detfink · Post #4443 » by **Dr. Detfink** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:15 pm

Every one KNOWS the cap space is going to get crazy...and suddenly they know they are worth MORE. It's always going to be that way. That's fine. Any free agent overvaluing himself, puts himself over winning. The NY Knicks do NOT want that.

I would prefer the Knicks get shut out of free agency, rather than drop coin on a player who is a "maybe"

And100 · Post #4444 » by **And100** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:18 pm

SlayOrNay wrote:
And100 wrote:
Stoosh wrote:
So about Afflalo...

He's a below average NBA basketball player by any and all measures asides from inexplicable reputation.

He's worth the money, take him and don't look back. People think he's supposed to be some kind of offensive weapon but he isn't. It's his defense that gets the work done (coming from a Denver fan who's sad to see him gone again too soon)s

His defense is worse than his offense.

-1.84 RPM

Defrtg 105.6

Defends the 3 pt shot very well, but it otherwise terrible.

http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201167/tracking/defense/

It's like that whatever statistical metric you favor. He's makes his team worse defensively when he's on the floor.

And100 · Post #4445 » by **And100** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:20 pm

Dr. Detfink wrote:Every one KNOWS the cap space is going to get crazy...and suddenly they know they are worth MORE. It's always going to be that way. That's fine. Any free agent overvaluing himself, puts himself over winning. The NY Knicks do NOT want that.

I would prefer the Knicks get shut out of free agency, rather than drop coin on a player who is a "maybe"

Only going to get worse next season and worse even that next season.

There will be no market correction coming soon. If you're advocating being shutout next year, you're advocating being shutout no less than the next 3 years.

aq_ua · Post #4446 » by **aq_ua** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:27 pm

And100 wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Every one KNOWS the cap space is going to get crazy...and suddenly they know they are worth MORE. It's always going to be that way. That's fine. Any free agent overvaluing himself, puts himself over winning. The NY Knicks do NOT want that.

I would prefer the Knicks get shut out of free agency, rather than drop coin on a player who is a "maybe"

Only going to get worse next season and worse even that next season.

There will be no market correction coming soon. If you're advocating being shutout next year, you're advocating being shutout no less than the next 3 years.

What's your plan, fella?

Meat · Post #4447 » by **Meat** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:40 pm

Stoosh wrote:
kej718 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Offseason_News/status/613138961037434880[/tweet]

So about Afflalo...

SO about d.greene

CoolKids · Post #4448 » by **CoolKids** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:45 pm

kej718 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/Offseason_News/status/613138961037434880[/tweet]

yea me too buddy

And100 · Post #4449 » by **And100** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:47 pm

aq_ua wrote:
And100 wrote:
Dr. Detfink wrote:Every one KNOWS the cap space is going to get crazy...and suddenly they know they are worth MORE. It's always going to be that way. That's fine. Any free agent overvaluing himself, puts himself over winning. The NY Knicks do NOT want that.

I would prefer the Knicks get shut out of free agency, rather than drop coin on a player who is a "maybe"

Only going to get worse next season and worse even that next season.

There will be no market correction coming soon. If you're advocating being shutout next year, you're advocating being shutout no less than the next 3 years.

What's your plan, fella?

Pay market prices, like everyone else.

Not advocating Matthews for $15m specifically, just saying if you're waiting for free agent discounts, it'll be a loooooong wait.

NO free agent is going to sign for less than market value for a 17 win team.

iLovethosedamnknicks · Post #4450 » by **iLovethosedamnknicks** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:25 pm

you think sac would bite?
#4
hardaway
calderon
2018 1st

cousins and gay

FemaleDogPlease · Post #4451 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:28 pm

Monroe looking real good right about now.

aq_ua · Post #4452 » by **aq_ua** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:29 pm

And100 wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
And100 wrote:
Only going to get worse next season and worse even that next season.

There will be no market correction coming soon. If you're advocating being shutout next year, you're advocating being shutout no less than the next 3 years.

What's your plan, fella?

Pay market prices, like everyone else.

Not advocating Matthews for $15m specifically, just saying if you're waiting for free agent discounts, it'll be a loooooong wait.

NO free agent is going to sign for less than market value for a 17 win team.

Meaning which free agents do you think will sign here?

The_Special_One · Post #4453 » by **The_Special_One** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:33 pm

iLovethosedamnknicks wrote:you think sac would bite?
#4
hardaway
calderon
2018 1st

cousins and gay

I'd love some Gay Cousins.

iLovethosedamnknicks · Post #4454 » by **iLovethosedamnknicks** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:40 pm

Steve McGarrett wrote:
iLovethosedamnknicks wrote:you think sac would bite?
#4
hardaway
calderon
2018 1st

cousins and gay

I'd love some Gay Cousins.

riter · Post #4455 » by **riter** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 4:43 pm

FemaleDogPlease wrote:Monroe looking real good right about now.

beer goggles

crazybranman360 · Post #4456 » by **crazybranman360** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:01 pm

Eric Bledsoe/#13 for #4
Draft Myles Turner/Bobby Portis
Sign Greg Monroe
Resign Jason Smith, Quincy Acy

Eric Bledsoe/Jose Calderon
Langston Galloway/Tim Hardaway Jr.
Carmelo Anthony/Cleanthony Early
(Bobby Portis/Myles Turner)/Quincy Acy
Greg Monroe/Jason Smith

fill out roster w/ minimum vets
try to dump Calderon to free up more cap space

AlphakirA · Post #4457 » by **AlphakirA** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:12 pm

Ken Berger claiming Knicks are on Cousins "list" to be traded to.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25222603/draft-buzz-possible-landing-spots-for-demarcus-cousins

We all know the 4th isn't enough, so instead of giving something up, we'd likely have to take Landry/Thompson as well. They both have 2 more years remaining with about $13 mil total each. Personally I'd rather just take a shot at a 19 year old, but I know everyone is enamored with this guy. Thoughts?

And100 · Post #4458 » by **And100** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:15 pm

aq_ua wrote:
And100 wrote:
aq_ua wrote:What's your plan, fella?

Pay market prices, like everyone else.

Not advocating Matthews for $15m specifically, just saying if you're waiting for free agent discounts, it'll be a loooooong wait.

NO free agent is going to sign for less than market value for a 17 win team.

Meaning which free agents do you think will sign here?

Monroe, Carroll, Green, Matthews, maybe Love, maybe Jordan, Milsap, Lopez (either), Ellis, Hibbert, Rondo, Asik, Young, more...

But i don't think anyone to the left side of Ellis is signing for much less than market value.

FemaleDogPlease · Post #4459 » by **FemaleDogPlease** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 7:16 pm

AlphakirA wrote:Ken Berger claiming Knicks are on Cousins "list" to be traded to.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/25222603/draft-buzz-possible-landing-spots-for-demarcus-cousins

We all know the 4th isn't enough, so instead of giving something up, we'd likely have to take Landry/Thompson as well. They both have 2 more years remaining with about $13 mil total each. Personally I'd rather just take a shot at a 19 year old, but I know everyone is enamored with this guy. Thoughts?

Only way the Knicks are getting Cousins is if he chokes out George Karl and gets suspended for half the season.

aq_ua · Post #4460 » by **aq_ua** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:46 pm

And100 wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
And100 wrote:
Pay market prices, like everyone else.

Not advocating Matthews for $15m specifically, just saying if you're waiting for free agent discounts, it'll be a loooooong wait.

NO free agent is going to sign for less than market value for a 17 win team.

Meaning which free agents do you think will sign here?

Monroe, Carroll, Green, Matthews, maybe Love, maybe Jordan, Milsap, Lopez (either), Ellis, Hibbert, Rondo, Asik, Young, more...

But i don't think anyone to the left side of Ellis is signing for much less than market value.

Interesting. You don't think we would need to outbid the market in order to get any of those guys to leave their current teams and join us?