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Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space

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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1981 » by Revived » Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:47 pm

saintEscaton wrote:All this pipedream speculation as our saving grace just goes to show the sorry state this organization is really in. Nothing sort of divine intervention would allow us to fleece an established star player away with our overhyped damaged goods (ahem sorry "assets"). Harden fell in to Morey's laps and the Rockets really just lucked out as an outlier. Can't build a team by holding out hope counting on the improbable.

Suns have very overrated assets. Even last draft when the Suns tried to move up nobody was interested and when the Suns tried to trade the Boganodovic and Ennis draft picks for future picks, nobody was interested either.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1982 » by Damkac » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:05 pm

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bwgood77 wrote:Minimum it would take to get Cousins. Len, Bledsoe, the 13th pick and a future pick. I can't believe people are back to trying to trade for him. But it would take something like that. They would need a center back and would want a pg and probably at least one pick. Probably this year's.

Now if people are ok with that, it's fine to have that opinion. But it takes at least that. I can understand people being willing to do that since many want to trade Bledsoe anyway and we'd get our center, but that's what it would take....I don't even think they'd do it for that, but it would have to be something like that.

They wouldn't want the twins since they have like 3-4 PFs, and we can't trade Knight, so that doesn't leave much else.


I think our best option for a trade is if the Knicks were to take Bledsoe for the 4th pick. Suns go get Porzinga with the 4th pick overall. If the Knicks want the 13, add in Tucker and the Morris twins, Suns get back Calderon and more filler.

Why people think Tucker and Markieff have negative value and Suns have to add pick to get rid of them?
Tucker is a good role player that can get you a late 1st rounder or at least some 2nd round pick.
Markieff with all his flaws is still talented young PF on amazing contract.
Only one that may have negative value is Marcus.
Bledsoe, 13th and Marcus for 4th and Calderon
TASTIC wrote:S&T for Love.

Morri, Tucker and Bullock might get him...They need productive bodies and the first three would help their depth and scoring immensely

This would mean Cavs traded Wiggins for Morri, Tucker and Bullock.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1983 » by bwgood77 » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:45 pm

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TASTIC wrote:S&T for Love.

Morri, Tucker and Bullock might get him...They need productive bodies and the first three would help their depth and scoring immensely

This would mean Cavs traded Wiggins for Morri, Tucker and Bullock.


They could lose Love in FA....it would be better to get someone for him....especially the twins to come off the bench, maybe along with Tucker.

But, I think Love will actually stay in Cleveland, especially since they lost the finals, and knowing he could be part of the difference in them getting a ring.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1984 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:53 pm

I been saying it for a while except I originally had us trading Bledsoe + Morris twins for Love, but now I think he can be had for just the MoBros, Bullock, their pick back, and the 2017 Miami pick. Tristan Thompson is a better fit around Lebron, and having Kieff off the bench adds to the versatility of the Cavs roster.
I'd rather we stay the course with Bledsoe (and Knight, for now I guess) and swing for the fences for Love. Trying to trade for Cousins would gut our roster.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1985 » by Qwigglez » Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:57 pm

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But, I think Love will actually stay in Cleveland, especially since they lost the finals, and knowing he could be part of the difference in them getting a ring.


It's just hard for me to believe that Love just wants a ring so badly. He's only 26, it's not like he's 32 without any playoff success. I dunno, if I was Love I just wouldn't want to be riding Lebron's coattail to a championship.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1986 » by bwgood77 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:31 am

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bwgood77 wrote:
But, I think Love will actually stay in Cleveland, especially since they lost the finals, and knowing he could be part of the difference in them getting a ring.


It's just hard for me to believe that Love just wants a ring so badly. He's only 26, it's not like he's 32 without any playoff success. I dunno, if I was Love I just wouldn't want to be riding Lebron's coattail to a championship.


I think he signs another one year deal with Cleveland to see if he can get it and re-assess his options when the cap is increasing big time and just about everyone can offer him a max.

That's why it's also tough to trade for him and give up a bunch of assets...well I guess you can't trade for him anyway since he's a free agent.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#1987 » by starbosa10 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:33 am

should try to utilize some of it this offseason(assuming Knight) since the cap going up will only create more
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Post#1988 » by lilfishi22 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:34 am

Qwigglez wrote:I been saying it for a while except I originally had us trading Bledsoe + Morris twins for Love, but now I think he can be had for just the MoBros, Bullock, their pick back, and the 2017 Miami pick. Tristan Thompson is a better fit around Lebron, and having Kieff off the bench adds to the versatility of the Cavs roster.
I'd rather we stay the course with Bledsoe (and Knight, for now I guess) and swing for the fences for Love. Trying to trade for Cousins would gut our roster.

Kieff off the bench for them would be phenomenal. They really lacked any consistent scoring off the bench and when they lost Irving and JR Smith started playing more alongside the starters, they pretty much had nothing off the bench. Kieff would probably go back to his 2013-2014 form averaging almost 19/8/2/1 off the bench.

But yeah, Cousins should be our priority, not Love.

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