Mario Hezonja

[bobsquad]

I cant wait 3 more days just to read meltdown posts on whichever team board that picks him.Just glaring through some draft threads on teams in his range, you'd say he is 2nd round pick the way he is described.

If he slips past #8 I think the team board that picks him is going to be ecstatic.

You've got that right.

Curious, though: does Charlotte trade up for him? Sacramento and Denver are both threats to take him, where do you think Hezonja sits on the Hornets draft board?

[HornetJail]

If he slips past #8 I think the team board that picks him is going to be ecstatic.

You've got that right.

Curious, though: does Charlotte trade up for him? Sacramento and Denver are both threats to take him, where do you think Hezonja sits on the Hornets draft board?

He should be right behind D'Angelo Russell on our draft board IMO. Hand-in-glove fit. I'd do quite a bit to trade up with Sacramento, Orlando, or New York to draft Hezonja.

[HornetJail]

I really want him to go to the right team, where he is gonna be the man

The Hornets say, "Hi!"

He'll be what they expected to get out of Lance Stephenson.

Plus a great three-point shot, but less defense. But you're not the first to draw that comparison- it's definitely crossed all of our minds at one point. We need that dynamic two-guard in the worst way.

[TKainZero]

I really want him to go to the right team, where he is gonna be the man

The Hornets say, "Hi!"

Isn't that Kembas team?

[MMT]

Sup guyz, I made a short vid about Supermario, tell me what you think and hit the like button it if you liked what you saw
Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXVOiqdKH4A

My personal wish ----> Hezonja to Nuggets <3

[Mustinjo]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2502765-meet-nba-draft-prospect-mario-hezonja-europes-kobe-bryant-wannabe

[Upperclass]

This dude is the SG version of Darko. You have to draft him based on potential.. but he's going to bust. A career 5-8ppg guy with no defense.

[Hogified05]

What time is his game today? I'd like to see him lose so he can be at the draft lol.

[immortalone23]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.93, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

[Mustinjo]

What time is his game today? I'd like to see him lose so he can be at the draft lol.

19:00 CET, that's 6 hours+ New York time.

[Rosque]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

And this is why analytics suck sometimes. Making up models so one can make some articles on obscure sites. It also heavily favors NCAA players and puts down euro guys

[immortalone23]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

And this is why analytics suck sometimes.

Yeah, I just wanted to get the information out there. I have him at 6 on my personal mock. Where do you have him?

[903124]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

The model undersell athleticism of players. Last version of model ever have Fred VanFleet on the top(5th of the board). After adding consensus mock draft Vezenkov, for example, still way high on the board.

[immortalone23]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

The model undersell athleticism of players. Last version of model ever have Fred VanFleet on the top(5th of the board). After adding consensus mock draft Vezenkov, for example, still way high on the board.

Yeah I sensed that. I wanted to post it for a discussion.

[Rosque]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

And this is why analytics suck sometimes.

Yeah, I just wanted to get the information out there. I have him at 6 on my personal mock. Where do you have him?

Edited post with more stuff

Me? I'm a bit of a homer on him but realistically at 4. Every top prospect has some glaring issues. KAT'S offense and post moves, OK4's defense and FT%, Russell's defense plus athleticism (which is kinda negated by his length), Mudiay's shot plus FT% and injury, Hezonja's effort on defense and foul drawing ability, WCS's offense, Zingis' ability to fill out the frame and defense. It all comes down to who works hardest and which of the issues are the easiest to fix

[immortalone23]

And this is why analytics suck sometimes.

Yeah, I just wanted to get the information out there. I have him at 6 on my personal mock. Where do you have him?

Edited post with more stuff

Me? I'm a bit of a homer on him but realistically at 4. Every top prospect has some glaring issues. KAT'S offense and post moves, OK4's defense and FT%, Russell's defense plus athleticism (which is kinda negated by his length), Mudiay's shot plus FT% and injury, Hezonja's effort on defense and foul drawing ability, WCS's offense, Zingis' ability to fill out the frame and defense. It all comes down to who works hardest and which of the issues are the easiest to fix

Realistically I see him in Orlando after KAT,OK4, Russell, and Winslow.

[Mustinjo]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

And this is why analytics suck sometimes. Making up models so one can make some articles on obscure sites. It also heavily favors NCAA players and puts down euro guys

His NCAA projections are really solid tbh, but his European are awful. He probably has a wrong way of translating European stats because there's a huge difference between some of the leagues here. There's absolutely no way Vezenkov rates that much better than Kris and Mario if you properly adjust their stats based on competition.

[Rosque]

Yeah, I just wanted to get the information out there. I have him at 6 on my personal mock. Where do you have him?

Edited post with more stuff

Me? I'm a bit of a homer on him but realistically at 4. Every top prospect has some glaring issues. KAT'S offense and post moves, OK4's defense and FT%, Russell's defense plus athleticism (which is kinda negated by his length), Mudiay's shot plus FT% and injury, Hezonja's effort on defense and foul drawing ability, WCS's offense, Zingis' ability to fill out the frame and defense. It all comes down to who works hardest and which of the issues are the easiest to fix

Realistically I see him in Orlando after KAT,OK4, Russell, and Winslow.

I also think he goes to Orlando. Would be good fit. With good passer in Payton he should get a lot of good looks and it would be a lot easier to get used to NBA with Vucevic who speaks same language as Mario

[immortalone23]

Anyone have a link to live stream his game? I know it is at 2 pm EST/1 pm CST.

[903124]

http://nyloncalculus.com/2015/06/15/an-easier-to-interpret-nba-draft-model/
Odds of becoming a quality player by Andrew Johnson: KAT and OK4 at 0.92, Hezonja at 0.31, Porzingis at 0.26 from the P-AWS model.

And this is why analytics suck sometimes. Making up models so one can make some articles on obscure sites. It also heavily favors NCAA players and puts down euro guys

His NCAA projections are really solid tbh, but his European are awful. He probably has a wrong way of translating European stats because there's a huge difference between some of the leagues here. There's absolutely no way Vezenkov rates that much better than Kris and Mario if you properly adjust their stats based on competition.

The model seems to favor stat padding as it seems to sum over different production of players only. We know that in collage level of competition less athletic player can bring more success to higher level, but the only way the author to compensate is putting consensus mock draft rating, which is clearly not enough. In Europe the same things occur and as Porzingis and Hezonja have less playing time and fewer stat production, their rating will be significantly lesser then Vezenkov who has a beautiful stat in domestic league.