Future draft classes

reanimator · Post #1141 » by **reanimator** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:09 pm

Team USA measurements : http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?page=&year=2015&source=USA+Basketball&sort2=DESC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=1

Malik Pope is 6'9'' with a 7'2'' wingspan, Josh Jackson is a legit 6'8'', Swanigan is a little bigger and longer than previously measured, Seventh Woods is 6'2'', TJ Leaf has Sam Dekker type size.

Chuck Everett · Post #1142 » by **Chuck Everett** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:40 pm

Some of these guards have ridiculous length. Briscoe and Troy Brown both with 6'9 wingspans. They should be very good pick-pockets at the college level.

Post #1143 » by **Marcus** » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:46 pm

Troy is going to be nice.

EricAnderson · Post #1144 » by **EricAnderson** » Sat Jun 20, 2015 4:59 pm

Sounds like Frank Jackson is exploding into the top 10 soon

splendidham · Post #1145 » by **splendidham** » Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:39 am

The declarations that Thon Maker will amount to not much at all are starting to look a little premature now. The decision to stay in HS was the correct one. He still has a lot to work on. Been looking very good lately though including MVP at the NBAtop100 camp. His brother also looks like a nice prospect

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

immortalone23 · Post #1146 » by **immortalone23** » Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:22 pm

Anyone here with Scouting experience that answer a couple of questions?

splendidham · Post #1147 » by **splendidham** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:50 am

I know Ayton looks amazing but Udoka Azuibuike looks like a shaq clone, just a bit shorter. Then there are Skal and Thon, wonder if we could be entering another great era of big men.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Post #1148 » by **Marcus** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:18 pm

splendidham wrote:I know Ayton looks amazing but Udoka Azuibuike looks like a shaq clone, just a bit shorter. Then there are Skal and Thon, wonder if we could be entering another great era of big men.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

its been on the horizon since last year's draft, you could make a case for 2013 as well (but Gobert has gotten good sooner than expected). Bigs are coming back and there is a solid mix of new age and old school.

Skal
Ivan Rabb
Harry Giles
Udoka has promise
Ayton is a beast
Diamond Stone is solid
Marvin Bagley Jr.
this year's crop

been saying this since I hit these boards last year. the bigs are indeed making a comeback and the league is going to see a nice influx of talent up front in the coming years.

EricAnderson · Post #1149 » by **EricAnderson** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:21 pm

Marcus wrote:
splendidham wrote:I know Ayton looks amazing but Udoka Azuibuike looks like a shaq clone, just a bit shorter. Then there are Skal and Thon, wonder if we could be entering another great era of big men.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

its been on the horizon since last year's draft, you could make a case for 2013 as well (but Gobert has gotten good sooner than expected). Bigs are coming back and there is a solid mix of new age and old school.

Skal
Ivan Rabb
Harry Giles
Udoka has promise
Ayton is a beast
Diamond Stone is solid
Marvin Bagley Jr.
this year's crop

been saying this since I hit these boards last year. the bigs are indeed making a comeback and the league is going to see a nice influx of talent up front in the coming years.

Mohamed Bamba has a lot of potential too..his wingspan and standing reach is freakish

No-Man · Post #1150 » by **No-Man** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:25 pm

Azubuike looks like Perkins

Post #1151 » by **Marcus** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:39 pm

Fischella wrote:Azubuike looks like Perkins

yeah he could end up being just another unskilled bully big. im leaning on the side of him being better than that though. call it optimism more than anything else. i still need to see him handle guys his size with his type of mentality. I've seen him move guys longer than him with relative ease but they gave up 20+ lbs on average for one and for two weren't really banger bigs to begin with.

i'd like to see him against a Thomas Bryant who could match the mentality or a Caleb Swanigan or Diamond Stone who aren't easily moved. Skill wise he's a work but he does the basic big man things and plays with an edge.

So far its size and mentality that's carrying him. we'll see what happens as the scales balance out.

No-Man · Post #1152 » by **No-Man** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:51 pm

Murray to UK, in the end Calipari always wins I guess.

Ulis-Hawkins
Murray-Briscoe
Matthews-Mulder
Poythress-Willis
Labissiere-Lee

Post #1153 » by **Marcus** » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:11 pm

Fischella wrote:Murray to UK, in the end Calipari always wins I guess.

Ulis-Hawkins
Murray-Briscoe
Matthews-Mulder
Poythress-Willis
Labissiere-Lee

good pick up.

BoutPractice · Post #1154 » by **BoutPractice** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:03 am

Marcus wrote:its been on the horizon since last year's draft, you could make a case for 2013 as well (but Gobert has gotten good sooner than expected). Bigs are coming back and there is a solid mix of new age and old school.

Skal
Ivan Rabb
Harry Giles
Udoka has promise
Ayton is a beast
Diamond Stone is solid
Marvin Bagley Jr.
this year's crop

been saying this since I hit these boards last year. the bigs are indeed making a comeback and the league is going to see a nice influx of talent up front in the coming years.

Looking at what's been happening in the last decade, the small ball trend is unsustainable in the long term...

The future is more likely to be tall players with skills you normally associate with backcourt positions. Kevin Durant, Anthony Davis, and Karl Towns are paving the way at their respective positions. (Maybe Wiggins if you think of him as a guard? And then there was this ridiculous idea of playing Giannis as a PG)

I certainly don't think we've seen the end of it, there seem to be new players in that mold every single year. How will the league adjust once you start having this many 6'10, 6'11 players who can shoot, dribble, and pass like guards while defending multiple positions? At some point they will stop being so "revolutionary" and become something of a norm...

Negrodamus · Post #1155 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:07 pm

Fischella wrote:Murray to UK, in the end Calipari always wins I guess.

Ulis-Hawkins
Murray-Briscoe
Matthews-Mulder
Poythress-Willis
Labissiere-Lee

I think I predicted this somewhere a few weeks back. :wink:

I'm not sure Matthews will be the starter. Poythress thrives better at the 4, but I could see Cal moving him to the 3 (a la Lyles) and putting Lee at the 4 for more length.

I obviously don't anticipate this team going undefeated, but the individual offensive talents of Ulis, Briscoe, Murray, and Labissiere along with the role playing abilities of Lee, Poythress, and Hawkins maps out a more cohesive unit that has a great chance at winning another one. At the end of games last season, we didn't really have a go to player for baskets. We tried the Harrison twins, but they were pretty talent deficient. For a team that's going undefeated the whole year, they shouldn't have to rely on unreliable guards to win games. Murray changes that for this upcoming team. Ulis should be much more efficient than Andrew.

This upcoming CBB season is going to be ridiculously fun with the talent being spread across the landscape.

No-Man · Post #1156 » by **No-Man** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:10 pm

I think they are a good enough for a 5-6 seed, but this year UNC and Maryland are waaay way ahead of any team.

reanimator · Post #1157 » by **reanimator** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:04 pm

reanimator · Post #1158 » by **reanimator** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 11:05 pm

I mentioned Paris Bass last year. Be on the look out.

Mohamed Bamba or DeAndre Ayton?

Big_C_KU · Post #1159 » by **Big_C_KU** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:27 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Fischella wrote:Murray to UK, in the end Calipari always wins I guess.

Ulis-Hawkins
Murray-Briscoe
Matthews-Mulder
Poythress-Willis
Labissiere-Lee

I think I predicted this somewhere a few weeks back.

I'm not sure Matthews will be the starter. Poythress thrives better at the 4, but I could see Cal moving him to the 3 (a la Lyles) and putting Lee at the 4 for more length.

I obviously don't anticipate this team going undefeated, but the individual offensive talents of Ulis, Briscoe, Murray, and Labissiere along with the role playing abilities of Lee, Poythress, and Hawkins maps out a more cohesive unit that has a great chance at winning another one. At the end of games last season, we didn't really have a go to player for baskets. We tried the Harrison twins, but they were pretty talent deficient. For a team that's going undefeated the whole year, they shouldn't have to rely on unreliable guards to win games. Murray changes that for this upcoming team. Ulis should be much more efficient than Andrew.

This upcoming CBB season is going to be ridiculously fun with the talent being spread across the landscape.

With the set up of the roster you almost have to have Poythress start at the 4 and Lee come off the bench. You don't want your first big off the bench to have to be Willis.

Also think they should start Matthews or Mulder and have Briscoe come off the bench to backup either guard spot. Briscoe would play more minutes overall than Matthews or Mulder.

Will be one of the strongest starting 5s in the country but the depth next year for UK will be a huge question mark.

Negrodamus · Post #1160 » by **Negrodamus** » Sun Jun 28, 2015 1:13 pm

Big_C_KU wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Fischella wrote:Murray to UK, in the end Calipari always wins I guess.

Ulis-Hawkins
Murray-Briscoe
Matthews-Mulder
Poythress-Willis
Labissiere-Lee

I think I predicted this somewhere a few weeks back.

I'm not sure Matthews will be the starter. Poythress thrives better at the 4, but I could see Cal moving him to the 3 (a la Lyles) and putting Lee at the 4 for more length.

I obviously don't anticipate this team going undefeated, but the individual offensive talents of Ulis, Briscoe, Murray, and Labissiere along with the role playing abilities of Lee, Poythress, and Hawkins maps out a more cohesive unit that has a great chance at winning another one. At the end of games last season, we didn't really have a go to player for baskets. We tried the Harrison twins, but they were pretty talent deficient. For a team that's going undefeated the whole year, they shouldn't have to rely on unreliable guards to win games. Murray changes that for this upcoming team. Ulis should be much more efficient than Andrew.

This upcoming CBB season is going to be ridiculously fun with the talent being spread across the landscape.

With the set up of the roster you almost have to have Poythress start at the 4 and Lee come off the bench. You don't want your first big off the bench to have to be Willis.

Also think they should start Matthews or Mulder and have Briscoe come off the bench to backup either guard spot. Briscoe would play more minutes overall than Matthews or Mulder.

Will be one of the strongest starting 5s in the country but the depth next year for UK will be a huge question mark.

You're right. He probably will be a 4.

I'm not terribly worried about depth. Especially after Duke winning the national championship with what, 8 scholarship players?