Draft Thread: Who do you want with the 13th pick? Stanley Johnson and WCS added..change votes if you want

JoRain · Post #2621 » by **JoRain** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:56 pm

For a right return, wouldn't mind dealing Bledsoe. Might be someone to send to Kings for 6th pick, if someone like Hezonja or Porzingis is still around.

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sunsbum · Post #2622 » by **sunsbum** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:58 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:It would be badass if we could trade bledsoe straight up for the #9 and keep the #13. Ryan can get his man Frank (everything I am hearing is ryan LOVES frank) and then see who falls to #13. Get a steal at 13. Drop bledsoes contract, get two young studs, and have more money to get at least one key free agent.

As much as I cant stand Bledsoe, him for the #9 pick alone would be a monumental ripoff.

Sunsdeuce · Post #2623 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:58 pm

sunsbum wrote:Bled should be available. He's a dead end PG.

cough cough......very true.....cough cough.

Sunsdeuce · Post #2624 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:00 pm

sunsbum wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:It would be badass if we could trade bledsoe straight up for the #9 and keep the #13. Ryan can get his man Frank (everything I am hearing is ryan LOVES frank) and then see who falls to #13. Get a steal at 13. Drop bledsoes contract, get two young studs, and have more money to get at least one key free agent.

As much as I cant stand Bledsoe
, him for the #9 pick alone would be a monumental ripoff.

This is true, but I'm a begger, so I can't be a choser.

Maystack · Post #2625 » by **Maystack** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:12 pm

TASTIC wrote:
Maystack wrote:
TASTIC wrote:This time thing sucks man.

I stayed up for it last year but was suffering at work, didn't go to bed til like 3am and was effed the next day haha

Will be a million updates on my phone from Game Time and Bleacher Report anyway...

I'm going to NZ vs Great Britain next month, you going?

I think I'm only going to stay up for the first round. And I don't start work until 2 tomorrow, so I'll hopefully have enough sleep.

I didn't even know GB were playing? Is it the Euroleague again?

Not sure what it's for - can get cheap tickets on Groupon for £13 (£30 at door)

Yeah I checked, it's a Saturday and I work Saturdays unfortunately :/

RaisingArizona · Post #2626 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:54 pm

TASTIC wrote:Can people please tell me WHY Kaminsky?

48 of you chose him, so please, enlighten me...

He may be the most ready guy to contribute and be a rotation player. We're weak on the front line. Had trouble scoring last year. Need another playmaker. His shooting at his size reminds me of Paul Gasol.

RaisingArizona · Post #2627 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:57 pm

Saberestar wrote:
If the Suns stick with their No. 13 pick in the NBA draft, they likely will make a choice among big men with varying shooting ability.
That group features Texas' Myles Turner, Wisconsin's Frank Kaminsky and Arkansas' Bobby Portis. The draft's first hour of top-12 surprises could complicate the Suns' choice if a much-needed shooter like Kentucky guard Devin Booker falls or a high-ceiling player like Arizona small forward Stanley Johnson tumbles.

The Suns, who also pick at No. 44, follow three teams in the first-round draft order — Miami, Indiana and Utah — that could be interested in big men too. That puts power forwards like Louisville's hard-nosed Montrezl Harrell or Kentucky's versatile Trey Lyles in play for Phoenix too. If a big man slips farther than expected to No. 13, it would be Kentucky defensive star Willie Cauley-Stein for fear of a chronic ankle issue.

Draft talent is in the eye of the beholder, especially after the top seven of this year's bunch. One team's 10th-ranked player could be No. 20 on another team's board. In the Suns' view, Turner would be an ideal pick with upside at 19 years told. For college basketball fans, it might be hard to consider Turner in the same conversation as Kaminsky but he did not have the same opportunity or a full college career of seasoning.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/06/25/phoenix-suns-high-myles-turner-frank-kaminsky-draft-options/29253539/

After reading the report, I think our four targets are ....

Kaminsky, Turner, Stanley Johnson and Booker.
They think that Johnson and Booker would be gone, so it would be whoever is left between Kaminsky and Turner.
Portis would be the "desperation" option if all four are gone.

Gambo said if most mocks are accurate, and the consensus top 10 guys are gone, our order would be this:

Frank
Devin
Myles

RaisingArizona · Post #2628 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:59 pm

I want Booker the most but if Danny Green is in our plans then it makes sense to go big with our pick. People can stop mentioning a Bledsoe trade because it isn't happening.

JMac1 · Post #2629 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:01 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:It would be badass if we could trade bledsoe straight up for the #9 and keep the #13. Ryan can get his man Frank (everything I am hearing is ryan LOVES frank) and then see who falls to #13. Get a steal at 13. Drop bledsoes contract, get two young studs, and have more money to get at least one key free agent.

I'd prefer that over, Bledsoe and the #13 for the #4....and Calderon :lol:

JMac1 · Post #2630 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:03 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:
Saberestar wrote:
If the Suns stick with their No. 13 pick in the NBA draft, they likely will make a choice among big men with varying shooting ability.
That group features Texas' Myles Turner, Wisconsin's Frank Kaminsky and Arkansas' Bobby Portis. The draft's first hour of top-12 surprises could complicate the Suns' choice if a much-needed shooter like Kentucky guard Devin Booker falls or a high-ceiling player like Arizona small forward Stanley Johnson tumbles.

The Suns, who also pick at No. 44, follow three teams in the first-round draft order — Miami, Indiana and Utah — that could be interested in big men too. That puts power forwards like Louisville's hard-nosed Montrezl Harrell or Kentucky's versatile Trey Lyles in play for Phoenix too. If a big man slips farther than expected to No. 13, it would be Kentucky defensive star Willie Cauley-Stein for fear of a chronic ankle issue.

Draft talent is in the eye of the beholder, especially after the top seven of this year's bunch. One team's 10th-ranked player could be No. 20 on another team's board. In the Suns' view, Turner would be an ideal pick with upside at 19 years told. For college basketball fans, it might be hard to consider Turner in the same conversation as Kaminsky but he did not have the same opportunity or a full college career of seasoning.

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/nba/suns/2015/06/25/phoenix-suns-high-myles-turner-frank-kaminsky-draft-options/29253539/

After reading the report, I think our four targets are ....

Kaminsky, Turner, Stanley Johnson and Booker.
They think that Johnson and Booker would be gone, so it would be whoever is left between Kaminsky and Turner.
Portis would be the "desperation" option if all four are gone.

Gambo said if most mocks are accurate, and the consensus top 10 guys are gone, our order would be this:

Frank
Devin
Myles

I am totally cool with that 100 percent!

JMac1 · Post #2631 » by **JMac1** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:04 pm

ginobiliflops wrote:I want Booker the most but if Danny Green is in our plans then it makes sense to go big with our pick. People can stop mentioning a Bledsoe trade because it isn't happening.

For 10-12 million....a definite pass on Green

RaisingArizona · Post #2632 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:09 pm

JMac1 wrote:
ginobiliflops wrote:I want Booker the most but if Danny Green is in our plans then it makes sense to go big with our pick. People can stop mentioning a Bledsoe trade because it isn't happening.

For 10-12 million....a definite pass on Green

Is that what he's going to command? I really don't know his market value.

King4Day · Post #2633 » by **King4Day** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:10 pm

I don't want booker. I sense Austin Rivers in him but less skill.

carey · Post #2634 » by **carey** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:11 pm

JMac1 wrote:
DRK wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
to all the Bledsoe and Kaminsky haters.

All of this losing has made the Realgm posters here blind, dumb, and crazy. Glad the FO doesn't drink what you guys do. Don't have to worry about Kaminsky though, some other team will get him and later we can bitch and moan about how we should have lost more games and drafted him....guaranteed to happen.

Tell you what mate. I've never attacked you for your opinion on Kaminsky. If you are so great at player evaluation maybe you should go and apply for a front office job or something. I've stated my points and my reasons clearly why I believe Kaminsky is going to struggle at the NBA level, but that is my personal opinion only, and I dont expect anyone to take it as fact.

You however are treating your own personal opinion like fact, and patronising everyone that doesnt agree with it. You even started a thread on the GB about how already plan to gloat when Kaminsky turns out great. (again, from your opinion only)

You are entitled to your opinion, however let me say this. If Kaminsky really does turn out to be a very mediocre player in the league, or bust, alot of us doing the gloating around here, and it certainly wont be you.

Somebody is butt hurt. Too bad.

Damn right, I believe in Kamisky and I am his most ardent and loyal supporter....deal with it!

I said posters...........I didn't say DRK, you could just be blind....or you could be dumb....or you could be crazy..... That is my opinion of the posters all over RealGM, I spoken and argued enough about Kaminsky to know what posters fell about him. I am willing to bet you think you are the dumb one, thus this unnecessary post and 5 year snitching....."You even made a post on the Big Board....." what a bitch move!!

Now suspend me, because I am calling you a bitch!

You need to chill the **** out.

TeamTragic · Post #2635 » by **TeamTragic** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:12 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:It would be badass if we could trade bledsoe straight up for the #9 and keep the #13. Ryan can get his man Frank (everything I am hearing is ryan LOVES frank) and then see who falls to #13. Get a steal at 13. Drop bledsoes contract, get two young studs, and have more money to get at least one key free agent.

Bledsoe for #9? Not bad. I'm just curious if we give a **** about FA.

JTrain · Post #2636 » by **JTrain** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:13 pm

It's looking more and more unlikely that Kaminsky is available at 10, much less 13. Apparently the Knicks are even considering him at 4 . Wow.

RaisingArizona · Post #2637 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:13 pm

DarkHawk wrote:I don't want booker. I sense Austin Rivers in him but less skill.

The difference is Rivers can't shoot and Booker is Klay Thompson 2.0 in regards to shooting.

letsgosuns · Post #2638 » by **letsgosuns** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:17 pm

Bledsoe for the 9th pick is not nearly enough. He is way too good to trade him for that. I am fine with trading Bledsoe but seriously, look at his stats. How many 25 year old point guards with great defense put up stats like his in the league? He would be an all star in the East. Forget about Bledsoe's leadership abilities. He can be a third option on an awesome team. That means he is pretty good. The 9th pick is something I would ask for if I was trading Markieff and I hate Markieff haha.

RaisingArizona · Post #2639 » by **RaisingArizona** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:21 pm

ginobiliflops wrote: People can stop mentioning a Bledsoe trade because it isn't happening.

King4Day · Post #2640 » by **King4Day** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 5:22 pm

carey wrote:
JMac1 wrote:
DRK wrote:
Tell you what mate. I've never attacked you for your opinion on Kaminsky. If you are so great at player evaluation maybe you should go and apply for a front office job or something. I've stated my points and my reasons clearly why I believe Kaminsky is going to struggle at the NBA level, but that is my personal opinion only, and I dont expect anyone to take it as fact.

You however are treating your own personal opinion like fact, and patronising everyone that doesnt agree with it. You even started a thread on the GB about how already plan to gloat when Kaminsky turns out great. (again, from your opinion only)

You are entitled to your opinion, however let me say this. If Kaminsky really does turn out to be a very mediocre player in the league, or bust, alot of us doing the gloating around here, and it certainly wont be you.

Somebody is butt hurt. Too bad.

Damn right, I believe in Kamisky and I am his most ardent and loyal supporter....deal with it!

I said posters...........I didn't say DRK, you could just be blind....or you could be dumb....or you could be crazy..... That is my opinion of the posters all over RealGM, I spoken and argued enough about Kaminsky to know what posters fell about him. I am willing to bet you think you are the dumb one, thus this unnecessary post and 5 year snitching....."You even made a post on the Big Board....." what a bitch move!!

Now suspend me, because I am calling you a bitch!

You need to chill the **** out.

This was addressed already and the back and forth has stopped. Please don't instigate it further.

Which three guys would you most like to draft if they are there at 13?