Geometry: The Frank Kaminsky Thread

[pellom]

Gonna be interesting to see what happens if we draft Kaminsky.

We could use him. Not the best player available but not the worst possibility in the world.

[Braggins]

He would be a good mid to late first round pick for us, but a huge reach at 9. Its going to be a big time facepalm moment if we draft him.

[driveandkick]

I think Frank can be a solid player in the right system. He's so smart, good passer and such a great shooter for a big. Gonna get torn apart on D probably though. Some coaches will be able to hide those deficiencies though.

[catch20two]

He would be a good mid to late first round pick for us, but a huge reach at 9. Its going to be a big time facepalm moment if we draft him.

That's how I felt about the Zeller pick. Lol. But I learned to accept it.

[catch20two]

I kinda like Kaminsky tho. He's probably like 3rd on my list of players likely to fall in our range.

[Braggins]

He would be a good mid to late first round pick for us, but a huge reach at 9. Its going to be a big time facepalm moment if we draft him.

That's how I felt about the Zeller pick. Lol. But I learned to accept it.

Without taking circumstance into consideration, that pick was every bit the reach that Kaminsky would be at 9. Although, I think us having drafted so many bigs recently makes Kaminsky at 9 a much worse pick than Zeller at 5 last year. Luckily, Zeller has exceeded expectations in a lot of areas and that class has done pretty poorly so far, so in hindsight I feel like Zeller was a solid pick. I was not happy about it at the time though.

[Cheeze]

Rumors are that with Vonleh now in Portland, the Hornets are looking at Kaminsky at #9. What Kaminsky offers that Vonleh didn't (and still doesn't) is experience. He is a reach at 9, but he has marketable skills that won't be a net negative on the floor.

The concern about his defense is valid. He's not totally inept on that side of the floor. Moves his feet well, smart, gets good position for rebounds. His lack of weight and arm length will hurt him, but he'll do, I think, for the 5-8 seconds he'll have to really defend per possession.

Meanwhile, Kaminsky can really fill it up from outside. The Hornets need shooting even with Batum and Lamb now on the roster. Kaminsky definitely offers shooting unlike any of the bigs in the draft. He basically gives Charlotte the shooting they hoped they were getting in Zeller. And it looks like Zeller may be better suited as a pick-and-pot 5, not a stretch 4.

I like Oubre, Winslow and Johnson over Kaminsky, and I'll feel that the Hornets will reach if they select him #9, but he can play, has underrated mobility and can really stroke it from downtown. I won't slit my wrists if Charlotte drafts him.

[MrMorrow]

Cheeze --
Would you pick Kaminsky over Cauley-Stein ??

[Cheeze]

Yes. But I might slit my wrists in that case, though. Willy's injury history concerns me.

[mrknowitall215]

Since I'm not a believer in Zeller being anything more than a defensive PF with 'good role player' being his ceiling I don't have much of a problem with drafting Kaminsky. Honestly, I'd rather trade down with Boston for Olynyk and pick whomever out of Booker, Oubre, or R.J. Hunter that fall to #16

[Benjamin Linus]

I'd feel better about taking Kaminsky if we still had Vonleh, didn't have Hawes, and if I knew we were keeping Biz. At least then, we would have three bigs that can defend in different ways that you could pair with Kaminsky... and he could provide some offense that trio could use. But I really don't like the idea of him playing alongside Al, Hawes, and Marvin.

[StitchJones]

I'm slowly warming up to Kaminsky. Mainly because a lot of teams seem to really like him. Barkley thinks he's the next Dirk, Phil Jackson likes him and multiple college analyst say he's a top 6 talent. What I see when I watch him is Josh McRoberts with better footwork for a better post game and a MUCH more consistent outside shot. He really is a proven shooter unlike Cody who we though had great form, but never really had to do it in game situations.

[Cheeze]

I'd feel better about taking Kaminsky if we still had Vonleh, didn't have Hawes, and if I knew we were keeping Biz. At least then, we would have three bigs that can defend in different ways that you could pair with Kaminsky... and he could provide some offense that trio could use. But I really don't like the idea of him playing alongside Al, Hawes, and Marvin.

I think the Hornets will find a way to keep Biyombo. I would share your very valid concern if they don't.

Kaminsky certainly makes you look at his fit on the roster, doesn't he? I'd say the same thing about Booker, Johnson and Oubre. Where do they fit now that the Hornets have added two wings to the roster? Payne may be the best fit out of all the available draftees at that spot.

I think it boils down to offense. Clifford is a defense-oriented coach. It's my opinion that Clifford can coach defense into a willing player. But he's deficient in regard to offense. So cultivating multiple offensive threats seems like a logical way to go. Kaminsky falls into that logic.

[fatlever]

Driving around town today, all I heard was talk of Frank. Cowherd was trashing him for not playing any defense. I think that might have been more about Frank for the Knicks rather than Frank at 9. Obviously the guys at 9 have flaws. On local radio, it was all Frank talk, mostly people are lukewarm to the idea. Seems everyone is convinced he is our target now.

[Cheeze]

I'm slowly warming up to Kaminsky. Mainly because a lot of teams seem to really like him. Barkley thinks he's the next Dirk, Phil Jackson likes him and multiple college analyst say he's a top 6 talent. What I see when I watch him is Josh McRoberts with better footwork for a better post game and a MUCH more consistent outside shot. He really is a proven shooter unlike Cody who we though had great form, but never really had to do it in game situations.

I hated Cody's form when he came out of Indiana. High trajectory and low release point. He begins the shot from the front of his nose with a long travel to the release point. Too easy to block. And the high arc he needs to get over defenders makes ball contact with the rim more violent. He therefore doesn't get the "shooter's touch" make.

All this can be corrected with a quicker, higher release. I hope he does or Zeller will remain a role player.

[Snidely FC]

Yeah, but Frank already proved to the entire CHA fanbase that he's a douche . . .

[Badd_Intentions]

I heard his reps didn't want him to workout for us, is this true?

[fatlever]

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[EwingSweatsALot]

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As in we would like to have him at 9. Or him being higher than nine is where we would like to have him so somebody falls to us?

[Cheeze]

At nine. But we fans would like him to go higher so a better player would drop.

I'm telling you, teams are getting tired of drafting children. I know the Hornets are. Maybe Kaminsky's biggest asset, other than being tall and an able shooter, is that he's all growed up.