2015 Draft Thread - Part 1

[Ruzious]

Jerian Grant reminds me of Shelvin Mack but he does have a better feel for the PG position than Mack did. I think Grant is an okay role player and should stick in the league. He's about as unexciting a pick as one could imagine but Ernie could certainly do worse.

Montrezl Harrell is an example of Ernie doing worse.

Jarrell Martin would be another.

Delon Wright is a worse case scenario but he doesn't appear to be on our radar.

Guys like Jonathan Holmes, Chris McCullough, J.P. Tokoto, Robert Upshaw, Christian Wood, The Harrison Twins & Michael Frazier are all guys on my do not draft list.

I like Delon Wright a lot - just not for the Wiz - because of his poor jump shot.

J Holmes and McCullough agreed - they shouldn't even be drafted in the 2nd round, imo.

Tokoto is a player who some team might schock everyone by picking him late 1st. But as a mid 2nd rounder, I think he'd be a good pick.

I think Andrew Harrison has a shot to be a good NBA player - but not Aaron.

Upshaw got a 3rd strike when it was determined he has a heart issue. Otherwise, I think he'd be a 1st rounder. Now, he might last till 49.

I know nothing about Frazier, but if he falls, I will say "Down goes Frazier!"

Pfffff, egg yolk all over my screen!!

I met Muhammed once... memorable.

LOL, very cool. My father did once - for several hours in a tax court case shortly after Ali started getting Parkinsons symptoms. He said Ali was a perfect gentleman and very gracious to everyone - even with the IRS after him in that situation.

[Ruzious]

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I'd give them a TPE and next year's pick for both.

Due the the cap sure, picks this year are more valuable than picks next year.

Jones is a good player and an asset.

Well that would be a steal, obviously (especially if we had a GM who would use #18 well). Terrence Jones had an off year this year.... Somehow I am not convinced by him. I think Looney will be better than him, for example.

I'm a Jones fan, but he did have a mysterious nerve injury in his leg, and I can't forget about Robert Pack - who looked like he had great potential for the Bullets years back, then had that same type of injury, and never got his explosiveness back. I'd still love to steal both Jones and especially Capella from Houston.

[Dark Faze]

Draft tiers:

Kill myself : Montrez Harrelssfdjfdsjlwhatever

Annoyed: Looney

Cool: Everyone else

Happy: Tyus Jones, Portis

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That was about a 6-8 game stretch, my friend.

Actually -- hard as it may be to believe -- Temple had a very good season overall. He played 765 minutes. Took a lot of 3's -- 4.8 per 40 minutes -- at a 36.5%. Overall he had .52 TS% (average or a little better for all NBA guards).

He's a good rebounding guard, 4.9/40 minutes -- and one of the best guards in the league on offensive rebounding. Temple doesn't turn it over much -- and he is one of the best guards in the league for steals too.

In all, Garrett Temple has turned himself into a reasonably good NBA player -- at the journeyman level of course, but still he deserves congratulations for his work. All the same, of course, I'd rather have a rookie, i.e. someone with a future, than Temple in his spot at the back of the bench.

He proved he belongs in the NBA - but as an end of the bench player. Take into consideration that teams often chose not to guard him - and that contributed to his -5.something offensive +/-. He was a fairly efficient scorer, but he wasn't a good scorer - otherwise, he would have take more shots. Any player that just takes wide open shots, should score efficiently.

Good points, for sure -- I just wanted to give the guy some props for what he *has* managed to achieve.

You know me: I would like to come away from this draft with 4-5 rookies! I can't stand the way Ernie does his job.

[Dat2U]

I've never been convinced by Terrence Jones. I think he's a tweener in the bad way. He doesn't have a position he can defend adequately.

[Ruzious]

I've never been convinced by Terrence Jones. I think he's a tweener in the bad way. He doesn't have a position he can defend adequately.

Maybe not, but he's not a tweener - he's strictly a power forward. He's a big guy.

[gambitx777]

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I'm ordering a pizza and watching this all unfold. If WCS drops like that, I don't see why the Wiz wouldn't take him at 19, regardless of the ankle issue.

I see why -- for the same reason they passed on Noel. If a guy free-falls due to medical red flags, I can see the Wiz deciding that they aren't the ones who'd like to take the risk.

If WCS falls and turns out to be a good player, some team will look smart. If he falls and never develops much due to injuries, whomever picks him will regret it.

This ws my whole reason for not taking Noel, the difference with WCS is that we would be taking him at 19 on 3. I can swallow gambling on an injury at 19, if it's for a guy like WCS, but not at 3. This draft wil be very very interesting.

[DCZards]

This ws my whole reason for not taking Noel, the difference with WCS is that we would be taking him at 19 on 3. I can swallow gambling on an injury at 19, if it's for a guy like WCS, but not at 3. This draft wil be very very interesting.

It would be crazy not to take Cauley-Stein with the 19th pick. He's going to impact games simply with his D and athleticism. But he'll go in the top 12 picks...easily.

[80sballboy]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wizards-insider/wp/2015/06/24/here-are-12-options-for-the-wizards-19th-pick/?postshare=6061435182684077

I wouldn't mind seeing EG trade up to get Portis or somebody else they like.

[80sballboy]

Also, Sam Dekker keeps falling reportedly. Chad Ford has him 16 to Boston and USA Today has him going to us at 19.

[thricethefun]

Also, Sam Dekker keeps falling reportedly. Chad Ford has him 16 to Boston and USA Today has him going to us at 19.

Dekker is a decent prospect but not a great one imo. He has a tendency to disappear for long stretches in games and he is a bit of a 3/4 tweener.

[fishercob]

So can we get cliffs of this thread for tonight? I haven't been too interested in the draft this year and can't read 82 pages.
Who does everyone want at 19:

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Hi.

Aren't you sweet.

I know very little about these prospects; I haven't studied them much. As such, I don't have really strong opinions. Based on the little that I do know, the two main guys who interest me that may be there when we pick are Portis and Looney.

I have interest in Delon Wright but concerns about his shooting given that he's 23.

Interest in Hollis-Jefferson but concerns about his shooting at all.

Unexcited by Grant and Jones, but could see them being decent.

Leery of Dekker. I see bust potential but I could be wrong and he could be the best of the group.

DOn't want Harrell.

[tontoz]

If Noel can fall to 6 then surely WCS can fall to 19.

[fishercob]

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[80sballboy]

Also, Sam Dekker keeps falling reportedly. Chad Ford has him 16 to Boston and USA Today has him going to us at 19.

Dekker is a decent prospect but not a great one imo. He has a tendency to disappear for long stretches in games and he is a bit of a 3/4 tweener.

Yes, I'm not a huge fan. Everybody loved him in the NCAA Tournament because he finally became consistent with his jumper until the final. He doesn't guard either though he is very athletic and would love to finally run up and down the floor after playing for Wisconsin for three years.

[Ruzious]

Also, Sam Dekker keeps falling reportedly. Chad Ford has him 16 to Boston and USA Today has him going to us at 19.

He's an enigma. He's got a beautiful looking stroke on his J, but he only made 33% of his college 3's. He looks like an athletic forward, but he had few blocks and steals. He looks big enough to play some 4, but he didn't rebound well enough in college to make me think that's a good option.

[80sballboy]

Also, Sam Dekker keeps falling reportedly. Chad Ford has him 16 to Boston and USA Today has him going to us at 19.

He's an enigma. He's got a beautiful looking stroke on his J, but he only made 33% of his college 3's. He looks like an athletic forward, but he had few blocks and steals. He looks big enough to play some 4, but he didn't rebound well enough in college to make me think that's a good option.

Agree to an extent. He did blow up in the NCAA Tournament and that's the guy who looked like a lottery pick. His workouts I guess have not been that great and it's tough to shed that tweener label. The next Joe Alexander? Or Danillo Gallinari before the injuries?

[verbal8]

I think the Wizards are most likely to pick Jerian Grant. Not a super-exciting pick, but he should be able to contribute. Looney is riskier, but has potential to be a great pick.

Willie Cauley-Stein would be a steal if he slips. One thing that might be interesting if WCS slips is a team may pass on Portis to pick him up. Portis would be a great option who likely won't be there.

19 is probably a little early for Justin Anderson, but he might be a good fit with the Wizards.

[Severn Hoos]

Yep - agreed that Grant is the most likely pick. Susan may not be the face of the franchise any more, but her spirit lives on. Take the local guy with connections to the team. He'll sell seats!

Looney does look like the next most likely, although it's possible he could be gone earlier than 19.

I am really starting to think that with the preferred targets off the board, I will be rooting for Justin Anderson to be the pick. That would make me happy.

(But still hoping for a Portis fall or trade up to get him. He's such an obvious and perfect fit. Please move up. Throw in next year's 1st if necessary. Just do it...)

[gambitx777]

This ws my whole reason for not taking Noel, the difference with WCS is that we would be taking him at 19 on 3. I can swallow gambling on an injury at 19, if it's for a guy like WCS, but not at 3. This draft wil be very very interesting.

It would be crazy not to take Cauley-Stein with the 19th pick. He's going to impact games simply with his D and athleticism. But he'll go in the top 12 picks...easily.

Chad ford has him possibly falling to 21.
If decker falls to us I'm taking him, he could turn into david lee with a better shot.