Official Live Celtics Draft Night Thread

TruthBucket · Post #1021 » by **TruthBucket** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

StojkoVrankovic wrote:Anyone want to guess which combo guard we pick at 28?

I couldn't possibly venture a guess. But I do know one thing....

It will make me want to spit right in Danny Ainge's smug stupid face. Long may he burn...

humblebum · Post #1022 » by **humblebum** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

fallguy wrote:There's no minutes for the kid Rozier. Somebody's on the move or he's spending the year in the D League.

This is false.

The Celtics can get away with playing three guard lineups because Rozier, Bradley and Smart are all so long and have great defensive ability.

Pressey was earning minutes for this team because of his defense on the ball and his ability to handle the ball and create off the bounce. Rozier can replace him, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him steal minutes from Bradley. He really is like Bradley, but more of a slasher, ball handler.

I think people will love him because he plays hard and with great energy. High, high upside pick.

peachbucket · Post #1023 » by **peachbucket** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

Gant wrote:Stevens: Rozier has a gear that very few guys have. Translates defensively today. Can explode in the paint.

Wyc: Danny and Brad had Rozier in this range. Westbrook type speed. Probably the fastest guy in the draft.

Tried hard to move up. In answer to why a trade didn't happen: "We just about gave them the keys to the franchise in some cases." (So they did offer a lot according to Wyc, but picks are expensive now.)

The true cost of making the playoffs.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1024 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

humblebum wrote:
fallguy wrote:
humblebum wrote:
Never draft for need in the draft. You draft for talent. Louisville has been a top NCAA team for a couple years with Rozier being their best player. Great athlete, excellent defender, very slippery getting into the paint, little AI to his offensive game (with the questionable shooting to go with the crossover dribble).

Rozier is a good pick, a bit of a reach, but you have to get your guys in the draft. That's all that counts.

And yet - very clearly, the Celtics didn't get their guy, despite desperate attempts to move up.

Well, they weren't able to move up. That's neither here nor there though. It's all about making a pick and taking your guy. If Terry Rozier becomes all the things that Avery Bradley is, but he can handle and get to the rim, finish and draw fouls? That's a damn good player to have.

The Celtics got more athletic and they bumped Pressey out of the rotation. They're better right away, and Rozier, unlike Portis is an elite athlete and has great upside. If he can become a knock down shooter? Sky is the limit.

This "clown" is reeling right about now.

chrisab123 · Post #1025 » by **chrisab123** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

Danny is grabbing the bow tie kid glitter and all at 28. Loves his potential to be a rim protector over time

Andrew McCeltic · Post #1026 » by **Andrew McCeltic** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

Gant wrote:Stevens: Rozier has a gear that very few guys have. Translates defensively today. Can explode in the paint.

Wyc: Danny and Brad had Rozier in this range. Westbrook type speed. Probably the fastest guy in the draft.

Tried hard to move up. In answer to why a trade didn't happen: "We just about gave them the keys to the franchise in some cases." (So they did offer a lot according to Wyc, but picks are expensive now.)

Yeah I don't doubt we tried to move up.. And I get that picks are expensive.. but so many teams were rumored to be moving down in the draft (especially the Knicks) that it's surprising nothing happened. Then again, the night's young and we have to make all our picks before we can trade them..

Such an unconvincing justification for the pick, though..

SMTBSI · Post #1027 » by **SMTBSI** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

wetsthebed wrote:Portis and RHJ are sliding. For the love of god, package the rest of the picks and move up to take one of them and salvage this draft.

Definitely worth pointing out. Oubre, Portis and RHJ all sliding. Very interesting to see what happens between now and #28.

Fencer reregistered · Post #1028 » by **Fencer reregistered** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

http://www.nbadraft.net/instant-analysis/2015

Some might see this as a reach, but Rozier has lottery pick talent. He is a tough, hard-nosed player who can get into the lane seemingly at will. He doesn't always display the wisest shot selection, but some of that can be attributed to Louisville's system. He's a natural born leader and really gets after it defensively, as his explosion is not reserved for just the offensive end. He will be a terror for any opposing backcourt alongside either Avery Bradley or Marcus Smart. Tremendous pick by Boston here.

Valid · Post #1029 » by **Valid** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:In the end none of this matters anyway because the Celtics are not sniffing the finals until Lebron slows downs which is a good 5 or 6 years away.

LeBron has MAYBE three great years left. His decline has already started.

hickfromfrenchlick · Post #1030 » by **hickfromfrenchlick** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:50 am

If there was something we needed, it was a defense-minded, undersized combo guard. Great pick, Ainge.

fallguy · Post #1031 » by **fallguy** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

irie wrote:
fallguy wrote:There's no minutes for the kid Rozier. Somebody's on the move or he's spending the year in the D League.

Celtics clearly aren't averse to drafting a guy who will be in Maine. They did it last year.

Agreed. I think it's entirely possible the team will take a step back next year from a pure wins POV. As Bulpett noted a few weeks back. That wouldn't be a terrible outcome.

greenroom31 · Post #1032 » by **greenroom31** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

I liked Rozier at 28, so not entirely disappointed that we got him, but would've liked him later. Shrug.

Also not sweating missing out on the early guys. After the top 5 I didn't think this draft was that great, and I've been cold on Winslow for a while after watching a lot of him at Duke (I'm an NC resident).

RajonsGotARondo · Post #1033 » by **RajonsGotARondo** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

http://www.sactownroyalty.com/2015/6/25/8849095/ty-lawson-believes-hes-going-to-sacramento

Post #1034 » by **wetsthebed** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

SMTBSI wrote:
wetsthebed wrote:Portis and RHJ are sliding. For the love of god, package the rest of the picks and move up to take one of them and salvage this draft.

Definitely worth pointing out. Oubre, Portis and RHJ all sliding. Very interesting to see what happens between now and #28.

Oubre was picked 15th.

Edug27 · Post #1035 » by **Edug27** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

pac213up wrote:I do love the idea of Pressey being bumped from the rotation.

Rozier and Pressey will be hoisting 30 shots each in Maine this season.

irie · Post #1036 » by **irie** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

Boston34Bg wrote:Can't believe Danny did this.. :D :D Danny doesn't even want Jahlil Okafor as it seems... Awfulll, I hope this works out.

Celtics do not have the singular asset that someone would trade a prospect like Okafor for though. There was no way the Celtics had a shot at something like that.

Marvel · Post #1037 » by **Marvel** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:51 am

jfs1000d wrote:He better be explosive scoring. If not, he won't be playing.

He won't be. Not behind IT, Smart, AB and Turner who'll play some minutes at pg.

pac213up · Post #1038 » by **pac213up** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:52 am

Well nbadraftnet loved the pick.

FlatearthZorro · Post #1039 » by **FlatearthZorro** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:52 am

WEll, there's always a plus, we can laugh at the Raptors pick...

Valid · Post #1040 » by **Valid** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:52 am

SMTBSI wrote:
wetsthebed wrote:Portis and RHJ are sliding. For the love of god, package the rest of the picks and move up to take one of them and salvage this draft.

Definitely worth pointing out. Oubre, Portis and RHJ all sliding. Very interesting to see what happens between now and #28.

Montrezl Harrell would be awesome, too...