Official Live Celtics Draft Night Thread

Scarletfire81 · Post #1181 » by **Scarletfire81** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:21 am

Marcus smart was taken at #5 and his value is low. Why would we give up everything for a #9. Wake up people.

shawn unkempt · Post #1182 » by **shawn unkempt** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:21 am

Sorry guys, you can't spin this night into a win. Freaking disaster.

humblebum · Post #1183 » by **humblebum** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:21 am

fallguy wrote:
humblebum wrote:
fallguy wrote:
One need going into the draft: talent. High-end talent.

Rozier has amazing talent. One of the best athletes in the draft.

The questions around him are what is he offensively? Is he an SG or a PG? Can he shoot. The talent is obvious though... and he's in the mold of other Ainge picks in this range with some interesting parallels to Rondo, Bradley and Tony Allen.

You think Bradley and Allen are high end basketball talent?

This is that moment where I tell you that defense wins championships. Not every player has to score 20 ppg for you to win championships. Guys like Tony Allen, Rondo, and Avery Bradley drop in drafts because people over value scoring.

But athleticism counts in my estimation of what a player can become. Rozier fits the mold of a high end talent because of what he brings athletically and defensively. Outside chance to be a major offensive difference maker too.

Spizite · Post #1184 » by **Spizite** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am

fallguy wrote:
Valid wrote:
fallguy wrote:
You think Bradley and Allen are high end basketball talent?

Tony Allen is one of the most impactful defenders in the league. The fact that he is a defensive stud makes him incredibly valuable.

High-end means elite talent. As in best or second best guy on a title team.

That's what Boston was chasing tonight.

I don't really get it man. We made the playoffs, it happened. We aren't tanking - we're too good. I mean what's the point in beating the dead horse. We have to just look forward, there's no point in crying over spilled milk here

Post #1185 » by **165bows** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am

Trade makes sense all around.

Valid · Post #1186 » by **Valid** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am

wetsthebed wrote:
Valid wrote:
SmartWentCrazy wrote:
Honestly? Cuz both of them suck. Rozier at least offers athletic upside...

I don't think Portis sucks, but Dekker is a bum.

Dekker had the second highest 2p% in the entire draft after Okafor. I don't think he's a bum.

I am not a fan of him at all. I don't think his game will translate to the pros, but hey; we'll see.

Red2 · Post #1187 » by **Red2** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am

Wouldn't be shocked to see Kevin love go to the lakers . Maybe rondo as well

Post #1188 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am

I kind of feel like that child who was a knicks fan and crying after Porzingas was selected. It oddly makes me feel better about my life-- does anyone have a video of it?

Dogen · Post #1189 » by **Dogen** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:22 am

humblebum wrote:This is literally the last day where draft position matters. Once these guys step on the court it will just come down to who wants it more and who produces. 6 months from now, people could be saying that Rozier is better than Mudiay. No one cares where the guy was drafted after tonight.

Yup, like driving a new car off the lot. I still wish we had a shot at Okafor or Winslow, but overall from this point forward the difference between most of these guys won't become clear for a few years. There will be a few busts taken before Rozier.

Bill Lumbergh · Post #1190 » by **Bill Lumbergh** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:23 am

I like the Tyus Jones pick for Cleveland. Kid's a gamer.

Captain_Caveman · Post #1191 » by **Captain_Caveman** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:23 am

fallguy wrote:
humblebum wrote:This is literally the last day where draft position matters. Once these guys step on the court it will just come down to who wants it more and who produces. 6 months from now, people could be saying that Rozier is better than Mudiay. No one cares where the guy was drafted after tonight.

SPIN HARD

This dude got ROCKED.

Hate what happened tonight, but LOL @ him masturbating with his own tears right now.

Inappropriate. Already suspended.
GP

celtics543 · Post #1192 » by **celtics543** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:23 am

humblebum wrote:
fallguy wrote:
humblebum wrote:
Rozier has amazing talent. One of the best athletes in the draft.

The questions around him are what is he offensively? Is he an SG or a PG? Can he shoot. The talent is obvious though... and he's in the mold of other Ainge picks in this range with some interesting parallels to Rondo, Bradley and Tony Allen.

You think Bradley and Allen are high end basketball talent?

This is that moment where I tell you that defense wins championships. Not every player has to score 20 ppg for you to win championships. Guys like Tony Allen, Rondo, and Avery Bradley drop in drafts because people over value scoring.

But athleticism counts in my estimation of what a player can become. Rozier fits the mold of a high end talent because of what he brings athletically and defensively. Outside chance to be a major offensive difference maker too.

I agree but someone has to score. Our downfall last year was that our offense in the 4th quarter was "give the ball to IT and hope". We need a guy that can put the ball in the basket.

Afam · Post #1193 » by **Afam** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:23 am

shawn unkempt wrote:Sorry guys, you can't spin this night into a win. Freaking disaster.

Horrible draft by the Celtics so far. It's definitely not win.

humblebum · Post #1194 » by **humblebum** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:23 am

Love Tyus Jones for Cleveland.

truth18 · Post #1195 » by **truth18** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:24 am

Valid wrote:
truth18 wrote:
Valid wrote:And then if this kid turns into Eric Bledsoe, everyone will be raving about how much of a "steal" it was. Sports fans are funny, man.

What do you think moving forward and pressing on means? We do what we can with him and hope he ends up a steal. Doesn't change what I said.

And Bledsoe is overrated

I wasn't criticizing you, dude. I was speaking in general and essentially agreeing with you. And come on; if you can get Eric Bledsoe at 16, you take it and run with it. I don't care how "overrated" he is.

Yeah, sry man I'm tried and upset

fallguy · Post #1196 » by **fallguy** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 am

humblebum wrote:
fallguy wrote:
humblebum wrote:
Rozier has amazing talent. One of the best athletes in the draft.

The questions around him are what is he offensively? Is he an SG or a PG? Can he shoot. The talent is obvious though... and he's in the mold of other Ainge picks in this range with some interesting parallels to Rondo, Bradley and Tony Allen.

You think Bradley and Allen are high end basketball talent?

This is that moment where I tell you that defense wins championships. Not every player has to score 20 ppg for you to win championships. Guys like Tony Allen, Rondo, and Avery Bradley drop in drafts because people over value scoring.

But athleticism counts in my estimation of what a player can become. Rozier fits the mold of a high end talent because of what he brings athletically and defensively. Outside chance to be a major offensive difference maker too.

If he turns into a top-12 player in the NBA, I will happily cede that point to you.

But as usual you duck points on which you look bad. Boston couldn't trade up, as you noted they would easily. And unless Rozier is the second coming, they struck out on anything but a rotation/role player.

We'll see. I'm willing to be wrong. I doubt your worldview even allows for that kind of admission.

humblebum · Post #1197 » by **humblebum** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 am

It's not spin, I think the Celtics still have a chance to add another impact player at 28. Good chance Rozier makes an impact day 1 on this team. Just replacing Pressey in the rotation is a substantial boost to this team.

hickfromfrenchlick · Post #1198 » by **hickfromfrenchlick** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 am

humblebum wrote:Love Tyus Jones for Cleveland.

Going to Minny

Post #1199 » by **SmartWentCrazy** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 am

If it's any consolation prize, they last time I felt like this after a draft was when the Pats picked McCourty... At least that turned out all right...

GregB · Post #1200 » by **GregB** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 am

humblebum wrote:Love Tyus Jones for Cleveland.

Per Woj

He is heading to Minnesota for 31 and 36