Geometry: The Frank Kaminsky Thread

[Braggins]

How is his skillset not redundant with Hawes on the roster? Why the hell did we trade for Hawes if we were targeting Frank in the draft?

Hawes is not nearly as mobile. Hawes can stretch the floor and he has a little inside game, but Frank is a more skilled more mobile big. Frank will be used as the pick and pop big for Kemba, Kemba is gonna get a ton of assists passing to Kaminsky and Al. This will be because Frank will pick and pop all day, and he's smart enough to know when to roll to the rim. We are going to have more 3 point shots at least attempted due to Frank, big Al will have space to work inside, defensively Frank scares the hell out of me, but hopefully with MKG and playing alongside Biz and or Cody, they can make up for his lapses.

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I'm eager to see Frank and Kemba playing together, I have a feeling Kemba's quickness will leave Frank open for alot of jumpers that he should be able to knock down.

Offensively, does he really give us anything that Hawes cant? He is more mobile than Hawes and a better defender, but is he good enough to play next to Al? Does he ever have a chance of being a 1st or second option for us? I feel like the answer to all of those questions is no. I dont see how he fills any of our major needs. We already added three quality role players who space the floor.

[JDR720]

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[yosemiteben]

Like are we really complaining about having too much shooting? Is that really a complaint we're qualified to make?

[KingCat]

Has grandmaster Stun704 given a reading on this guy yet? Im guessing a mix of Dirk and Olajuwon

[tondi123]

With the exception of Batum and occasionally Lamb none of those guys play NBA level defense. I know defense isn't our problem, but if we lose Biz on top of all the other changes we've made it quickly will be. At least we should finally be able to hit some 3 pointers, I don't even think Clifford can screw that up with the amount of shooters we added to the roster.

We play Al Jefferson. We played Gary Neal and Mo Williams. We played Marvin Williams and Maxiel.

We had an above average defense in a cluter**** of a season still. Hawes isn't worse than Al. Frank actually did a decent job against 4 guys in the top 10 inside. I'm really not worried about defense. Unless we lose Biz and Zeller at the same time somehow.

I'll step off the cliff if we resign Biyombo. I just don't like bigs who can't play D. I hope to be pleasantly surprised by Kaminsky in that department, he certainly has the complete offensive package though that's for sure.

Thats kind of how I feel. If we head into next season with Al/Biz/Hawes/Cody/Frank as our big men, thats really not a terrible blend of offense/defense. Subtract Biz from that equation and we get much weaker on that end and unless Frank is indeed the next Dirk the fact he, at 22, was able to look good defending against 19 year olds, isn't going to matter very much going forward.

[Liver_Pooty]

Like are we really complaining about having too much shooting? Is that really a complaint we're qualified to make?

We have, allegedly or on paper a ton of shooting. If we still can't shoot next year with Batum, Hairston, Lamb, Hawes, on and on and on we have a serious problem.

[Liver_Pooty]

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He can shove that drafting BPA and trade for need stuff up his ass. Its just stupid

[Braggins]

Can someone explain why having multiple bigs who are redundant by being able to do work in the paint and shoot outside is a problem?

Like isn't this what we've been asking for? Better, more dynamic offense with better outside shooting?

I don't get the "redundancy" argument.

I guess we should trade Zeller for Channing Frye and Biz for Pero Antic.

[JDR720]

Like are we really complaining about having too much shooting? Is that really a complaint we're qualified to make?

We have, allegedly or on paper a ton of shooting. If we still can't shoot next year with Batum, Hairston, Lamb, Hawes, on and on and on we have a serious problem.

we should have, at minimum a league average offense. this is the most shooters we have had in a long time.

[Braggins]

I would feel a lot better of there was any chance of Kaminsky and Biz being our starting frontcourt, but thats not happening. Always comes back to Al. Hes a 325 pound barnacle.

[Lwcasu]

Is he going to be better than Bargnani? That is what I want to know. He seems to be just as capable of a shooter, but with a much more developed inside game, better defense, and better rebounding.

[yosemiteben]

Can someone explain why having multiple bigs who are redundant by being able to do work in the paint and shoot outside is a problem?

Like isn't this what we've been asking for? Better, more dynamic offense with better outside shooting?

I don't get the "redundancy" argument.

I guess we should trade Zeller for Channing Frye and Biz for Pero Antic.

But we already have Zeller and Biz. Are we done prioritizing the improvement of our disaster of an offense?

Like really...I log on here every day and read about how Cho does a terrible job putting together a roster that fits and getting us shooters. He makes a pick that does both of those things and we roast him.

And screw you guys for making me be objective and defend Frank.

[Cheeze]

The NBA's open lane will play well to Kaminsky's skills. He'll have a hard time against big bodies down low, both offensively and defensively, but he'll be a pick-and-roll monster. That's why he was drafted. He will absolutely own the elbow, foul line extended and will make teams pay for leaving him to double Al Jefferson. If defenders try to close out on him, he'll simply quick-step by them, pull up for a mid-range jumper or re-set at the three point line after a screen.

Kaminsky was not the value pick Winslow would have been. I think the Hornets will regret passing him by. But the Kaminsky pick will pay immediate dividends. How many times last season did we see Cody set a pick and receive the swing pass only to hold it? How many times did we see Cody Zeller on the basketball court and pray he would take (and hit!) an open shot? This will not be Frank Kaminsky. Frank will shoot. Frank will make his shots. He will improve the Hornets's scoring because he is an instant and credible threat. And that very thing right there, credible threat, is what makes it all possible.

And he'll start at the 4 day one.

[BlackOutBuzz]

He's not starting over Zeller.

[Liver_Pooty]

Can someone explain why having multiple bigs who are redundant by being able to do work in the paint and shoot outside is a problem?

Like isn't this what we've been asking for? Better, more dynamic offense with better outside shooting?

I don't get the "redundancy" argument.

I guess we should trade Zeller for Channing Frye and Biz for Pero Antic.

But we already have Zeller and Biz. Are we done prioritizing the improvement of our disaster of an offense?

Like really...I log on here every day and read about how Cho does a terrible job putting together a roster that fits and getting us shooters. He makes a pick that does both of those things and we roast him.

And screw you guys for making me be objective and defend Frank.

I think the trade we made the day before fit everything we wanted to do. Now if we would not have gotten Batum to address the spacing issues at the 2 I would have been somewhat, very somewhat receptive to Frank, but holy ****. Winslow is there. You have to take him. Frank may very well end up as the 3rd string PF behind Zeller and Marvin for Christ sake. He damn well won't be Jeffersons backup because we have Hawes there, let alone Biyombo. I mean damn.

[JDR720]

He's not starting over Zeller.

at least not this year, i think we trade Zeller eventually. we wanted to last season (for Lopez) and this off-season before we dumped Vonleh instead

[catch20two]

He's not starting over Zeller.

Zeller might not even be ready for training camp.

[KingCat]

He's not starting over Zeller.

Cause Zeller wont be with us next season

[Diop]

thank god we got our own Brad Lohaus

[Liver_Pooty]

Jahlil Okafor who moves like old people move furniture took him off the dribble multiple times when they played at wisconsin, and in the national title game. How in the flying hell he is going to defend legit 4 men in the NBA is beyond me. Hes better than Zeller from an offensive standpoint Ill give him that, but Zeller is so much better as an overall player its rather stupid.