Welcome Okafor

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #101 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:42 am

I think this was a BPA pick and I really want us to keep him. I have zero faith in Embiid and while this was a BPA, you can't help but wonder how serious this situation is with Embiid. Either way i'm stoked and we can get 32 minutes a night out of all three if healthy.
Okafor is a franchise level talent in my opinion. We hit a home run with this pick.

Ericb5 · Post #102 » by **Ericb5** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:57 am

We got the second best player in the draft. Who cares if he isn't a great fit?

We will figure it out later.

Okafor is a better prospect than Russell.

Worse fit, but better prospect.

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BoomBap · Post #103 » by **BoomBap** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:26 am

trade the lakers,mia and okc pick to portland for lillard. sign danny green and let our bigs work under the basket. we will be a contender in no time.

noel/biid/okafor

OH MY GAWD!

Jack_Tretton · Post #104 » by **Jack_Tretton** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:33 am

SixersfutureGM wrote:There is 96 mins at the PF/C position. Enough for all three to get 32 mins a game for this year so I am not worried.

This assumes we can never play small and at times have 2 centers on the court together.

42uptop · Post #105 » by **42uptop** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:42 am

Still in shock that we blew our pick on this guy AND kept him. Awful. I'd take both Noel and risky Embiid over Okafor long-term. Hopefully Noel/Embiid is the starting unit next year and we don't have to see Okafor plod around getting burnt defensively too much.

Honestly have no idea where Hinkie is going. If the strategy is to stockpile centers and play D League guys at the other 4 positions then he is doing a good job, but this rebuild is going to take forever.

I'll go on record and say this was a terrible pick. Lost some faith in Hinkie tonight because of it.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #106 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:47 am

LOL.... what are you talking about? You do realize that we have no idea what is going to happen with Embiid, right?

How can you "blow" a pick on one of the best low post prospects in the last 20 years? Who the hell are the Sixers to get picky on talent? I'm sorry, but are Noel and Embiid proven superstars in this league yet? What if Noel regresses as a sophmore? What if Embiid can't play, or plays but gets hurt again. They got arguably the best player in the draft at #3.

Russell was gone, and unless you think Mudiay is the next Russell Westbrook(hint: he's not) there was no wing or guard savior.

42uptop · Post #107 » by **42uptop** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:24 am

Westbrook36 wrote:LOL.... what are you talking about? You do realize that we have no idea what is going to happen with Embiid, right?

How can you "blow" a pick on one of the best low post prospects in the last 20 years? Who the hell are the Sixers to get picky on talent? I'm sorry, but are Noel and Embiid proven superstars in this league yet? What if Noel regresses as a sophmore? What if Embiid can't play, or plays but gets hurt again. They got arguably the best player in the draft at #3.

Russell was gone, and unless you think Mudiay is the next Russell Westbrook(hint: he's not) there was no wing or guard savior.

Oh yeah, I'm the one jumping the gun here. Okafor who has yet to play an NBA game is now an amazing player and Mudiay is a a bust because he isn't the next Westbook. You're clueless bro.

News Flash: This isn't the 1980s. Okafor isn't nearly athletic or dominant enough to be this elite big that he is projected to be. Your center needs to be able to defend the paint, protect the rim, sometimes even space the floor. Okafor is trash at all of these. But he did a few flashy post moves against white guys who walked onto their college team so it's all good.

Oh yeah and Embiid might be hurt. Awesome. Now we can see the trainwreck that is Noel/Okafor. Who needs floor spacing? Rim protection from their center? Not the perpetually tanking Sixers.

This is Tank 3.0. Good thing we have all those established perimeter players and a point guard to help our bigs develop. Oh wait....

LongLiveHinkie · Post #108 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:30 am

42uptop wrote:
Westbrook36 wrote:LOL.... what are you talking about? You do realize that we have no idea what is going to happen with Embiid, right?

How can you "blow" a pick on one of the best low post prospects in the last 20 years? Who the hell are the Sixers to get picky on talent? I'm sorry, but are Noel and Embiid proven superstars in this league yet? What if Noel regresses as a sophmore? What if Embiid can't play, or plays but gets hurt again. They got arguably the best player in the draft at #3.

Russell was gone, and unless you think Mudiay is the next Russell Westbrook(hint: he's not) there was no wing or guard savior.

Oh yeah, I'm the one jumping the gun here. Okafor who has yet to play an NBA game is now an amazing player and Mudiay is a a bust because he isn't the next Westbook. You're clueless bro.

News Flash: This isn't the 1980s. Okafor isn't nearly athletic or dominant enough to be this elite big that he is projected to be. Your center needs to be able to defend the paint, protect the rim, sometimes even space the floor. Okafor is trash at all of these. But he did a few flashy post moves against white guys who walked onto their college team so it's all good.

Oh yeah and Embiid might be hurt. Awesome. Now we can see the trainwreck that is Noel/Okafor. Who needs floor spacing? Rim protection from their center? Not the perpetually tanking Sixers.

This is Tank 3.0. Good thing we have all those established perimeter players and a point guard to help our bigs develop. Oh wait....

I said he is an elite "prospect" that isn't jumping the gun. I also didn't say Mudiay is a bust. You are acting like a child by putting words in my mouth.

You don't need to be ultra athletic to succeed in the NBA as a big. He has amazing low post moves, and touch, and he's only 19. Jeez.

He was the BPA and they took the best player. What great perimeter guys did we miss out on?

SMH · Post #109 » by **SMH** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:33 am

So as I expected the Laker Russell was never smokescreen, I called they were getting him on day 1. Glad we ended with Okafor instead of Kristaps. Still sucks of this logjam we created and our guards are d league level.

Tough season to each

76ciology · Post #110 » by **76ciology** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:35 am

Only problem I see is that our big men might see this as a competition and eventually ask for a trade.

Tension · Post #111 » by **Tension** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:45 am

76ciology wrote:Only problem I see is that our big men might see this as a competition and eventually ask for a trade.

Noel seems too positive a person to ask for a trade (Not to mention he hasn't really built up a strong enough resume to be demanding trades) and Embiid actually likes Okafor..oddly enough. Apparently he even texted him the night before saying "See you in Philly"

If there's a trade, it's gonna be because of Hinkie. Not a player request.

42uptop · Post #112 » by **42uptop** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:55 am

Nowhere did I say that a player has to be ultra athletic to succeed in the NBA. Nor did I question his post moves or touch. Also many of the top prospects in the draft are "only 19" so your point is moot. What I am saying is he has too many flaws to justify a top 3 selection in this draft. Athleticism is one of them.

Mudiay is a better prospect and will be a much better NBA player than Okafor. He was BPA. Hinkie could have taken him, traded back for him, or even traded up for Russell. Any of those were better than what he did. Hell even if we had to trade back for a Euro, the additional pick/player would have made up for it.

Instead Hinkie initiated tank 3.0 by taking Okafor and a bunch of bigs, all of whom are inferior to the two we already have. I know many have already jumped off this bandwagon due to health but I'll take my chances on Noel/Embiid long-term. They are better than Okafor and I will be proven right in the end.

Stills12 · Post #113 » by **Stills12** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:57 am

PK5 wrote:From a fan perspective maybe not that much fun, but it's the best value.

The fans they showed on tv seemed to be pretty excited by the selection.

Unbreakable99 · Post #114 » by **Unbreakable99** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:00 am

42uptop wrote:Nowhere did I say that a player has to be ultra athletic to succeed in the NBA. Nor did I question his post moves or touch. Also many of the top prospects in the draft are "only 19" so your point is moot. What I am saying is he has too many flaws to justify a top 3 selection in this draft. Athleticism is one of them.

Mudiay is a better prospect and will be a much better NBA player than Okafor. He was BPA. Hinkie could have taken him, traded back for him, or even traded up for Russell. Any of those were better than what he did. Hell even if we had to trade back for a Euro, the additional pick/player would have made up for it.

Instead Hinkie initiated tank 3.0 by taking Okafor and a bunch of bigs, all of whom are inferior to the two we already have. I know many have already jumped off this bandwagon due to health but I'll take my chances on Noel/Embiid long-term. They are better than Okafor and I will be proven right in the end.

Mudiay isn't a better prospect than Okafor. A bitter fit? Yes but not a better prospect. The only player better than Okafor is Towns. I would have liked Mudiay at 3 and wouldn't have minded but Okafor was the best player there. And if we did get Mudiay we still wouldn't be that much better than win Okafor so your tank 3.0 confuses me. Mudiay probably doesn't win more games than Okafor.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #115 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:04 am

42uptop wrote:Nowhere did I say that a player has to be ultra athletic to succeed in the NBA. Nor did I question his post moves or touch. Also many of the top prospects in the draft are "only 19" so your point is moot. What I am saying is he has too many flaws to justify a top 3 selection in this draft. Athleticism is one of them.

Mudiay is a better prospect and will be a much better NBA player than Okafor. He was BPA. Hinkie could have taken him, traded back for him, or even traded up for Russell. Any of those were better than what he did. Hell even if we had to trade back for a Euro, the additional pick/player would have made up for it.

Instead Hinkie initiated tank 3.0 by taking Okafor and a bunch of bigs, all of whom are inferior to the two we already have. I know many have already jumped off this bandwagon due to health but I'll take my chances on Noel/Embiid long-term. They are better than Okafor and I will be proven right in the end.

You basically spent an entire post stating conjecture and opinion as fact.

You have no idea what offers were on the table and what we could have received via trade back.

Tension · Post #116 » by **Tension** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:09 am

42uptop wrote:Nowhere did I say that a player has to be ultra athletic to succeed in the NBA. Nor did I question his post moves or touch. Also many of the top prospects in the draft are "only 19" so your point is moot. What I am saying is he has too many flaws to justify a top 3 selection in this draft. Athleticism is one of them.

Mudiay is a better prospect and will be a much better NBA player than Okafor. He was BPA. Hinkie could have taken him, traded back for him, or even traded up for Russell. Any of those were better than what he did. Hell even if we had to trade back for a Euro, the additional pick/player would have made up for it.

Instead Hinkie initiated tank 3.0 by taking Okafor and a bunch of bigs, all of whom are inferior to the two we already have. I know many have already jumped off this bandwagon due to health but I'll take my chances on Noel/Embiid long-term. They are better than Okafor and I will be proven right in the end.

Mudiay is in NO WAY a better prospect than Okafor :lol:

Mudiay's athleticism is overstated plus he plays in the most saturated position in the league. You only take a PG top 3 if you believe he's going to be a superstar, which he most likely won't be.

Okafor at worst, will be an All Star big (in the East mind you, not West) and the question with him is whether he will become a 2 way big that'll catapult him to superstar.

then again, I feel like I'm just wasting my time here because I'm arguing with someone who ranked Dante Exum over Andrew Wiggins last year. (viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1259492&p=38815167#p38815167)

Yes. Dante Exum, One of the worst PGs in the league whose supposed best trait is blazing speed. Except, I'm not sure if he's driven the ball more than 20 times this season because he plays EXACTLY like Pablo Prigioni. Someone old enough to be his father. (Believe me, I've watched way more Jazz games than I'm proud to admit)

ShowYaLuv25 · Post #117 » by **ShowYaLuv25** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:15 am

42uptop wrote:Nowhere did I say that a player has to be ultra athletic to succeed in the NBA. Nor did I question his post moves or touch. Also many of the top prospects in the draft are "only 19" so your point is moot. What I am saying is he has too many flaws to justify a top 3 selection in this draft. Athleticism is one of them.

Mudiay is a better prospect and will be a much better NBA player than Okafor. He was BPA. Hinkie could have taken him, traded back for him, or even traded up for Russell. Any of those were better than what he did. Hell even if we had to trade back for a Euro, the additional pick/player would have made up for it.

Instead Hinkie initiated tank 3.0 by taking Okafor and a bunch of bigs, all of whom are inferior to the two we already have. I know many have already jumped off this bandwagon due to health but I'll take my chances on Noel/Embiid long-term. They are better than Okafor and I will be proven right in the end.

Stopped reading after bold.

Sportfan73 · Post #118 » by **Sportfan73** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:17 am

If there is one prospect that could get us to many wins next year it's okafor hinkie didn't take him because it's tank 3.0 he took him cause he was the best available prospect.

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42uptop · Post #119 » by **42uptop** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:18 am

This is a message board. People state opinions and make conjecture as if they are facts (see your above posts).

Unfortunately I have a different opinion than the Hinkie cult so it's out of line. I understand. I'll show myself out.

LongLiveHinkie · Post #120 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 6:21 am

42uptop wrote:This is a message board. People state opinions and make conjecture as if they are facts (see your above posts).

Unfortunately I have a different opinion than the Hinkie cult so it's out of line. I understand. I'll show myself out.

No offense, but you sound defensive and whiny.

First of all you insulted me in your original post, and you are gonna get all high and mighty now? Holy moly.

You just come off as butthurt, and are backpedaling when you know you came off as childish.