Geometry: The Frank Kaminsky Thread

Liver_Pooty · Post #201 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:30 am

You draft the damn BPA like Winslow, let him battle it out with MKG and Batum, and if anything Winslow is a very valuable asset you can flip for a veteran like we did Vonleh with Batum. No one freaking wants Frank.

Liver_Pooty · Post #202 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:30 am

We didn't even work the **** out. The front office had their minds set on him from day one. Disgusting

catch20two · Post #203 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:33 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:You draft the damn BPA like Winslow, let him battle it out with MKG and Batum, and if anything Winslow is a very valuable asset you can flip for a veteran like we did Vonleh with Batum. No one freaking wants Frank.

Frank got more value than Zeller tho so he got some value, right? lol

Post #204 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:33 am

I think he opens the season as the 5th big and we trade Marvin.

Zeller-Hawes
Al-Biz

we have to keep Biz, or we have no shot blockers.

Liver_Pooty · Post #205 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:34 am

They didn't pick Winslow because of MKG, and that is clear as day. I love MKG as much as anyone, but you absolutely cant select someone for need coming off a 33 win season. Todays NBA is positionless. The Warriors just won the title going small with Draymond freaking Green playing center. Cho, Chad Buchanan, Clifford, the scouting department, whomever can go to hell if they honestly had Frank over Winslow on their board. Thats ridiculous.

catch20two · Post #206 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:34 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:We didn't even work the **** out. The front office had their minds set on him from day one. Disgusting

Water is wet. Ice is cold. Cho is Cho. This is like the 4th time he's had his mind set on a player entering the draft no matter how the chips fell.

Flip Murray · Post #207 » by **Flip Murray** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:35 am

all the hornets are to me right now are the lessees of a building where I can pay to watch actual teams come play every couple of weeks.

catch20two · Post #208 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:36 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:They didn't pick Winslow because of MKG, and that is clear as day. I love MKG as much as anyone, but you absolutely cant select someone for need coming off a 33 win season. Todays NBA is positionless. The Warriors just won the title going small with Draymond freaking Green playing center. Cho, Chad Buchanan, Clifford, the scouting department, whomever can go to hell if they honestly had Frank over Winslow on their board. Thats ridiculous.

MKG is our best player. No need to draft a wing that can't shoot behind or around him. Kaminsky was BPA.

Liver_Pooty · Post #209 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:37 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:You draft the damn BPA like Winslow, let him battle it out with MKG and Batum, and if anything Winslow is a very valuable asset you can flip for a veteran like we did Vonleh with Batum. No one freaking wants Frank.

Frank got more value than Zeller tho so he got some value, right? lol

He probably does.

Think of it this way. Marvin Williams making 7 million might be our 3rd string PF. Kaminsky might be our 3rd string PF, and he was the 9th pick this year.

Cho saying that Frank can play center is fine and dandy, but hes not better than Jefferson or Hawes. We just added a 3rd string front court player.

Liver_Pooty · Post #210 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:38 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:They didn't pick Winslow because of MKG, and that is clear as day. I love MKG as much as anyone, but you absolutely cant select someone for need coming off a 33 win season. Todays NBA is positionless. The Warriors just won the title going small with Draymond freaking Green playing center. Cho, Chad Buchanan, Clifford, the scouting department, whomever can go to hell if they honestly had Frank over Winslow on their board. Thats ridiculous.

MKG is our best player. No need to draft a wing that can't shoot behind or around him. Kaminsky was BPA.

I can't take you serious if you think Frank was the BPA. Id take Oubre, Booker, Turner, Frankenstein, Dracula, my mother, anyone over Frank.

catch20two · Post #211 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:39 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:You draft the damn BPA like Winslow, let him battle it out with MKG and Batum, and if anything Winslow is a very valuable asset you can flip for a veteran like we did Vonleh with Batum. No one freaking wants Frank.

Frank got more value than Zeller tho so he got some value, right? lol

He probably does.

Think of it this way. Marvin Williams making 7 million might be our 3rd string PF. Kaminsky might be our 3rd string PF, and he was the 9th pick this year.

Cho saying that Frank can play center is fine and dandy, but hes not better than Jefferson or Hawes. We just added a 3rd string front court player.

More trades to be made. We gotta find a sucker to take Marv or Zeller. I like the fact that Cho is tryna right his wrongs. Should've listened to me from the get-go.

Liver_Pooty · Post #212 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:40 am

catch20two wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
catch20two wrote:Frank got more value than Zeller tho so he got some value, right? lol

He probably does.

Think of it this way. Marvin Williams making 7 million might be our 3rd string PF. Kaminsky might be our 3rd string PF, and he was the 9th pick this year.

Cho saying that Frank can play center is fine and dandy, but hes not better than Jefferson or Hawes. We just added a 3rd string front court player.

More trades to be made. We gotta find a sucker to take Marv or Zeller. I like the fact that Cho is tryna right his wrongs. Should've listened to me from the get-go.

I guess.

Post #213 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:43 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:We didn't even work the **** out. The front office had their minds set on him from day one. Disgusting

EwingSweatsALot · Post #214 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:46 am

Even if Frank was the BPA. Shouldn't they just keep going down their list cause our BPA has been absolute **** since MJ and Cho got here.

Should just go "yeah Kaminsky is tops on our board, but **** MJ, you and I (Cho) have only made one good pick in a combined 25 years doing this. Maybe we should just take the next dude and see what happens"

Post #215 » by **JDR720** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:48 am

we didn't interview him or work him out, this is the most random draftee ever. and he wasn't some heralded top 5 guy that fell like Vonleh.....shoot we passed on one for him.

Flip Murray · Post #216 » by **Flip Murray** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:49 am

please prove me wrong frank

EwingSweatsALot · Post #217 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:50 am

JDR720 wrote:we didn't interview him or work him out, this is the most random draftee ever. and he wasn't some heralded top 5 guy that fell like Vonleh.....shoot we passed on one for him.

We kinda passed on Vonleh for him too.

Liver_Pooty · Post #218 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:50 am

Im a fan of Frank. I have to be. We have to be. But good grief what a bad pick.

Ill support you Frank, but whatever.

EwingSweatsALot · Post #219 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:51 am

Three PFs three straight years. Tried to trade the first, traded the second, drafted the third over a top 6 guy.

**** **** man.

Braggins · Post #220 » by **Braggins** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:51 am

yosemiteben wrote:
Braggins wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Can someone explain why having multiple bigs who are redundant by being able to do work in the paint and shoot outside is a problem?

Like isn't this what we've been asking for? Better, more dynamic offense with better outside shooting?

I don't get the "redundancy" argument.

I guess we should trade Zeller for Channing Frye and Biz for Pero Antic.

But we already have Zeller and Biz. Are we done prioritizing the improvement of our disaster of an offense?

Like really...I log on here every day and read about how Cho does a terrible job putting together a roster that fits and getting us shooters. He makes a pick that does both of those things and we roast him.

And screw you guys for making me be objective and defend Frank.

We already added 3 shooters, 2 of whom are high IQ passers and one is a stretch big. The good thing about the trades we made is that they balanced out the roster and allowed us the leeway to take the most talented player with our draft pick, but instead we reached for another shooter/stretch big when we already have a huge logjam in our frontcourt.