NBA draft thread pt. 2 Thursday 7:00 ESPN - DO NOT POST PICKS BEFORE THEY ARE ANNOUNCED

NewEra · Post #2281 » by **NewEra** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:00 pm

Went to sleep after we traded for Grant. Anything else happen concerning the Knicks? Did we get into the 2nd round? Great draft last night!

Post #2282 » by **King of Canada** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:04 pm

NewEra wrote:Went to sleep after we traded for Grant. Anything else happen concerning the Knicks? Did we get into the 2nd round? Great draft last night!

Yeah, we picked up one of Porzingis' teammates. Some Spanish guy. I am going to take a look at him this morning.

EMG518 · Post #2283 » by **EMG518** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:06 pm

camillepd wrote:another website claims that the Knicks have invited Christian Woods to summer league. Don't know much about him.

Very good news, has the talent to have been taken in the lottery.

NewEra · Post #2284 » by **NewEra** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 12:19 pm

King of Canada wrote:
NewEra wrote:Went to sleep after we traded for Grant. Anything else happen concerning the Knicks? Did we get into the 2nd round? Great draft last night!

Yeah, we picked up one of Porzingis' teammates. Some Spanish guy. I am going to take a look at him this morning.

Ok just saw thanks

3toheadmelo · Post #2285 » by **3toheadmelo** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:10 pm

kp is a lights out shooter

R-DAWG · Post #2286 » by **R-DAWG** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:17 pm

VirginiaKnickFan wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:The Miami Heat won the draft. Winslow will turn into a star in that organization.

Except the pieces around him will be aging.

He's in a perfect situation. Comes off the bench next year behind Deng and Wade. Limited pressure. Will get to start the 25 games Wade misses with injury. Then in 3-4 years from now, when he's 23-24 and the pieces around him and Whiteside start to decline Miami rebuilds around cap space or uses Winslow in a trade to get better.

This is Caron Butler falling to #10 all over again.

The value, upside, and short term contributions for Winslow make him the steal of the draft at #10. He would have been a reach at #4 (which is why it's hard to completely kill the Porzingis pick as much as I want to) but it would have been a safe pick.

It's really too bad that we couldn't have traded down and picked up Winslow plus another asset.

Post #2287 » by **Thorn** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:20 pm

EMG518 wrote:
camillepd wrote:another website claims that the Knicks have invited Christian Woods to summer league. Don't know much about him.

Very good news, has the talent to have been taken in the lottery.

Christian Wood
#5 F Sophomore UNLV Rebels
Birth Date: September 27, 1995
HometownPalmdale, CA
Height: 6-11
Weight: 220

PPG RPG APG
15.7 10.0 1.3

Phil is definitely looking to build a long, and tall team, I dig that.

Mecca · Post #2288 » by **Mecca** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 1:35 pm

I still think Porzingis and Grant will come out as day 1 starters. We have 26 in cap space, not 40. That can land us 2 starters and a few role players. Porzingis potential is at the Center position in a few years. Right now I'm cool with letting him play stretch 4. You're telling me he can't ouboard Thad Young Mirotic or Olynyk at 7'3 in the small ball era? I really think Phil thinks we can land Gasol or Jordan as well as a guy like Danny Green. Grant.Green.Melo.Porzingis.Gasol

levendis · Post #2289 » by **levendis** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:03 pm

Mecca wrote:I still think Porzingis and Grant will come out as day 1 starters. We have 26 in cap space, not 40. That can land us 2 starters and a few role players. Porzingis potential is at the Center position in a few years. Right now I'm cool with letting him play stretch 4. You're telling me he can't ouboard Thad Young Mirotic or Olynyk at 7'3 in the small ball era? I really think Phil thinks we can land Gasol or Jordan as well as a guy like Danny Green. Grant.Green.Melo.Porzingis.Gasol

I dont know about starting Zinger but they need to give him like 20 minutes a game to help develop his game. He's going to struggle at first but he needs to get NBA minutes.

Bklyn&company · Post #2290 » by **Bklyn&company** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:12 pm

Really didn't think Phil had the balls to pick Kristaps... really thought we were going to trade down and get a vet and pick or two (Winslow.. etc). Like KP but not at #4... but warming up to it.. getting my boy J.Grant for THjr was a great move, kid is exactly like his best friend V.Oladipo. Wish we had drafted Rakeem Christmas...

I see KP playing and producing.. offensively he is going to be good... defensively not so sure. He will be an offensive weapon.. would love to see his handle improve then he is going to a problem to contain. ..

Rock Bottom · Post #2291 » by **Rock Bottom** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:21 pm

I hate how this morning is like christmas morning to every other team out there..

Theyre opening their new nicely tied red bow and white box of russell, okafor, and towns, winslow at 10, mudaiy at 7, etc

and we are here getting grandma's sweater in Prozingis.. (and I like zinger just not sure man..)

I just wish for once we could get the real thing.. just for once..

Post #2292 » by **Clyde Frazier** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:23 pm

mpharris36 wrote:i'm not sure you understand the buying pick process though. The top part of the 2nd round is very difficult to trade into because of the value. 1st round value with a 2nd round contract. Maybe we could of bought a 50-60 pick with cash. But not the 35th pick.

the nets traded two 2nd round picks for the 38th pick. If that doesn't tell you that the 2 future 2nds was the going value for that pick then I don't know what else would.

…I understand just fine. Then pay for a later 2nd round pick instead. I just don’t like the move as constructed. I also realize it’s one of porzingis’ teammates. Whatever.

Post #2293 » by **mpharris36** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:25 pm

Clyde Frazier wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:i'm not sure you understand the buying pick process though. The top part of the 2nd round is very difficult to trade into because of the value. 1st round value with a 2nd round contract. Maybe we could of bought a 50-60 pick with cash. But not the 35th pick.

the nets traded two 2nd round picks for the 38th pick. If that doesn't tell you that the 2 future 2nds was the going value for that pick then I don't know what else would.

…I understand just fine. Then pay for a later 2nd round pick instead. I just don’t like the move as constructed. I also realize it’s one of porzingis’ teammates. Whatever.

they made the trade because the kid wouldn't have lasted until the late 2nd round. They wanted that specific player.

He also was porzingis' teammate and they play well together. It was a natural fit. We also don't have to bring him over this year so do need to use cap space on him.

Post #2294 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:43 pm

#35 pick in this draft for a player Phil liked >>> 2 future 2nd round picks.

Post #2295 » by **j4remi** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:51 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:#35 pick in this draft for a player Phil liked >>> 2 future 2nd round picks.

It's really a strange thing to be upset about imo. Nobody gave a damn when he was stockpiling seconds in his fire sale.

Post #2296 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:58 pm

j4remi wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:#35 pick in this draft for a player Phil liked >>> 2 future 2nd round picks.

It's really a strange thing to be upset about imo. Nobody gave a damn when he was stockpiling seconds in his fire sale.

People complain when we got second round picks, people complain when we trade second round picks for second round picks, and people would complain if we wouldnt have picked up a second round pick in this draft :lol:

guess can't keep everyone happy

KnicksGadfly · Post #2297 » by **KnicksGadfly** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:03 pm

j4remi wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:#35 pick in this draft for a player Phil liked >>> 2 future 2nd round picks.

It's really a strange thing to be upset about imo. Nobody gave a damn when he was stockpiling seconds in his fire sale.

Yah, didn't he give up Prigs for that or something? Not a big loss.

SelbyCobra · Post #2298 » by **SelbyCobra** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:06 pm

EMG518 wrote:
camillepd wrote:another website claims that the Knicks have invited Christian Woods to summer league. Don't know much about him.

Very good news, has the talent to have been taken in the lottery.

Where is this news of him coming to Summer League? I can't find it anywhere...

omerome · Post #2299 » by **omerome** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:07 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
j4remi wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:#35 pick in this draft for a player Phil liked >>> 2 future 2nd round picks.

It's really a strange thing to be upset about imo. Nobody gave a damn when he was stockpiling seconds in his fire sale.

People complain when we got second round picks, people complain when we trade second round picks for second round picks, and people would complain if we wouldnt have picked up a second round pick in this draft

guess can't keep everyone happy

Lol. I know right.

Draft picks are only useful if they're...used. We got the guy we wanted, and that's exactly what you want to happen.

Post #2300 » by **K_ick_God** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:16 pm

I just want to apologize publicly to the moderators for posting the Porzingis pick from Wojina. I got it from a previous post.

While I understood the order not to post picks beforehand, I honestly and truly -- and I know this may sound weird -- did not know that applied to a reporter's information. I guess I thought it was something to do with people pretending that the pick was in or posting fake information. I didn't really connect the dots on it being just no spoilers for people.

I guess that's because I thought Wojina's information was just a guess like anybody's. I didn't know it was more than just his opinion or guess, so I didn't think it would be that big a deal.

I'll apologize to them privately as well. But my intention was not to break the rules. Brain fart. I was nervous as hell! So I wanted to say this publicly first.

Again my apologies -- I won't do it again.