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NBA draft thread pt. 2 Thursday 7:00 ESPN - DO NOT POST PICKS BEFORE THEY ARE ANNOUNCED

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Re: NBA draft thread pt. 2 Thursday 7:00 ESPN - DO NOT POST PICKS BEFORE THEY ARE ANNOUNCED 

Post#2401 » by N Y K » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:58 am

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Atlanta trades the 19th pick (jerian Grant) to New York for Tim Hardaway Jr.

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knicks small logoFour players from the 2013 draft have averaged double figures in each of their first two seasons – lottery picks Victor Oladipo, Trey Burke and Michael Carter-Williams and Hardaway, the 24th selection. He will be expected to do more than chase stats in Atlanta, but he is a career 35 percent from the arc and should get better alongside better players in a better system. (Yes, Phil, a better system.) He also provides a bit of insurance if the Hawks cannot re-sign Carroll. Without another draft pick until 2017, the Knicks used the pick to select point guard Jerian Grant, a needed piece with a strong pedigree who will be in the rotation next season. A good deal for both teams. WINNER: Hawks



holy jeez his hole site is littered with trolling....you can't watch basketball and tell me the hawks won that trade.

LOL

Sports opinion and journalism is the biggest joke going. Literally just agenda and trolling. So, if the Knicks kill it in FA and make playoffs next year, Sheridan does/says what?
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Re: NBA draft thread pt. 2 Thursday 7:00 ESPN - DO NOT POST PICKS BEFORE THEY ARE ANNOUNCED 

Post#2402 » by Rasho Brezec » Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:02 am

mpharris36 wrote:
Rasho Brezec wrote:Of course **** Morey snatches him.


gave him the partial guarantee, thats going to lock it up...i don't think we are in a position to be locking up undrafted FA's and eating up space until FA's plays out.

For the rookie minimum, sure you can. You don't penny-pinch with minimum players who are low-risk and high-reward, you make sure not to trade for garbage like Calderon.
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Post#2403 » by fresko024 » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2015/06/25/sheridan-knicks-are-more-doomed-than-you-may-realize/

wow, sheridan is so salty, knicks with the worst record the next two years. Wont make the playoffs during jackson tenure...

why is he so salty...f*cking hack


Yeah I read this yesterday. Sheridan is an idiot. I won't read his garbage again.

Now..Deandre Jordan? He would help a lot defensively. His defense would have a larger impact than his inability to hit Free Throws so I'm with it!
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Post#2404 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:28 pm

I think a team can carry a very good defensive player who is a poor FT shooter if the rest of the team is comprised of good FT shooters. Obviously Shaq was all world and the Bulls had Jordan/Pippen, but Rodman wasn't that good a FT shooter either, but if memory serves, he got better in the clutch.
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Post#2405 » by K_ick_God » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:27 pm

THJ has potential to be okay but shocks me he was able to fetch 19.

Sheridan's site is probably struggling to survive, and I suspect writers have learned that saying bad stuff about the Knicks is a way to get attention from Knicks lovers and haters.
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Post#2406 » by Moose » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:48 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I think a team can carry a very good defensive player who is a poor FT shooter if the rest of the team is comprised of good FT shooters. Obviously Shaq was all world and the Bulls had Jordan/Pippen, but Rodman wasn't that good a FT shooter either, but if memory serves, he got better in the clutch.


You can't compare hall of fame players playing with hall of fame teammates with hall of fame coaches to deandre Jordan.
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Post#2407 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:56 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I think a team can carry a very good defensive player who is a poor FT shooter if the rest of the team is comprised of good FT shooters. Obviously Shaq was all world and the Bulls had Jordan/Pippen, but Rodman wasn't that good a FT shooter either, but if memory serves, he got better in the clutch.


You can't compare hall of fame players playing with hall of fame teammates with hall of fame coaches to deandre Jordan.



No, that's why I said Shaq was all world and MJ/Pippen were there for Rodman (also an all world defender)

Just speculating that Phil tolerated bad FT shooting front court players before.

I don't think DeAndre J offers enough otherwise to make it worth it personally.

I'd prefer Kanter or Asik to hold it down until the 2nd Spanish kid comes over. So, Asik or Kanter for 3 year deal, not large $
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Post#2408 » by Moose » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:04 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Moose wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:I think a team can carry a very good defensive player who is a poor FT shooter if the rest of the team is comprised of good FT shooters. Obviously Shaq was all world and the Bulls had Jordan/Pippen, but Rodman wasn't that good a FT shooter either, but if memory serves, he got better in the clutch.


You can't compare hall of fame players playing with hall of fame teammates with hall of fame coaches to deandre Jordan.



No, that's why I said Shaq was all world and MJ/Pippen were there for Rodman (also an all world defender)

Just speculating that Phil tolerated bad FT shooting front court players before.

I don't think DeAndre J offers enough otherwise to make it worth it personally.

I'd prefer Kanter or Asik to hold it down until the 2nd Spanish kid comes over. So, Asik or Kanter for 3 year deal, not large $


Think we have to start being realistic. Everyone is going to be expensive. No one is coming cheap this offseason.
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Post#2409 » by BKlutch » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:35 pm

KnicksGod wrote:THJ has potential to be okay but shocks me he was able to fetch 19.

Sheridan's site is probably struggling to survive, and I suspect writers have learned that saying bad stuff about the Knicks is a way to get attention from Knicks lovers and haters.


Isn't THJr the guy who killed Atlanta at the end of the season (along with our tank)? Maybe they were overly impressed by what they saw that one game. Haha - they missed so many other games where Timmy missed, too.
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Post#2410 » by Capn'O » Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:31 pm

Emmanuel Mudiay wrote:
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CharlesOakleeey wrote:BTW where is that guy that changed his name to EmmanuelMudiay? :lol:


He probably became a Nuggets fan

I am here, still a Knicks fan and have to wait a year to change my name back (unless Mudiay becomes a superstar) :D


1. At least change your sig, duder.

2. Consider pretending to actually be Emmanuel Mudiay. That could be entertaining.
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Post#2411 » by stuporman » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:04 am

KnicksGod wrote:THJ has potential to be okay but shocks me he was able to fetch 19.

Sheridan's site is probably struggling to survive, and I suspect writers have learned that saying bad stuff about the Knicks is a way to get attention from Knicks lovers and haters.


Ding f'n ding :lol:
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Post#2412 » by K_ick_God » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:27 am

stuporman wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:THJ has potential to be okay but shocks me he was able to fetch 19.

Sheridan's site is probably struggling to survive, and I suspect writers have learned that saying bad stuff about the Knicks is a way to get attention from Knicks lovers and haters.


Ding f'n ding :lol:


Which, I should've added, covers basically every basketball fan on the planet.
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Post#2414 » by Revived » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:24 am

AllanH20 wrote:Mudiay or Porzingis

no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow

Why don't you like Winslow?
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Post#2415 » by Revived » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:26 am

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andrenym00 wrote:Porzing is according to woj


Well u gonna be banned.

Sadly, I don't even think he got banned. There's no "suspended" under his avatar.

I guess they can't ban people though because it would be hypocritical since a mod or admin himself spoiled the pick early before it was announced.
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Post#2416 » by Revived » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:40 am

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bklynstoops wrote:he getting booed. feel bad for him already.


These fans are idiots. They hate cause he's a Euro.

Doesn't help when the ESPN guys are shouting through their lungs "ONLY 2 EUROS PICKED IN THE LOTTERY IN THE PAST 20+ YEARS HAVE EVER MADE ALL STAR TEAM PAU AND DIRK THATS IT!!".
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Post#2417 » by Revived » Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:42 am

j4remi wrote:I'm not excited for a 7'1 player who weighs 220 lbs.

Doesn't Kaminsky weight about the same?
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Post#2418 » by Jay10 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 12:23 pm


:lol:

If that had happened to the knicks, it would've been all over ESPN and other media outlets.
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Post#2419 » by AllanH20 » Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:18 pm

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AllanH20 wrote:Mudiay or Porzingis

no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow no winslow

Why don't you like Winslow?


Winslow is a 2 in the NBA but he can't shoot and has no handle. His shooting mechanics are terrible and he has no range on his shot, he failed to hit an NBA three all season. This isn't a disputed point but if you don't believe me, this is from his draftexpress profile:

Winslow was considered a mediocre shooter coming into college, as he made just 26 of the 86 [30%] 3-pointers he attempted in 1900 minutes and 82 games in the many events (FIBA, EYBL, Adidas Nations, etc) he participated in prior to Duke that we have on record.
His game relies heavily on power, which probably won't work quite as well in the NBA, where lowering your shoulder and bulldozing through the lane doesn't get the same results as it does in college. Developing his in-between game will help, as will quickening the speed of his release and showing he can translate his somewhat flat shot to the longer distances of the NBA 3-point line.


Winslow shot 40% from the field and 31% from three when Okafor wasn't on the floor. When Okafor was on the floor, he had open shots all day.

Shooting: Winslow’s already shown to be a capable shooter, and actually leads Duke in three-point shooting at nearly 42%. But it is fair to wonder how he’ll perform in a system that provides less open shots, since he’s enjoyed ample spacing with all the double-teams Okafor commands. His figures dip quite a bit when he’s not playing alongside the All-America center—from 45% behind the arc and 52% overall down to just 31% from three and 40% overall. And he’s struggled mightily at the elbow, where he’d frequently get the ball in the triangle, shooting just 18% (8-of-45) from there, per Shot Analytics. (The Knicks handle the ball on the elbow an NBA-high 32 times a game, according to SportVU.) Winslow’s jump-shot inconsistency is similar to that of ex-Knick Iman Shumpert’s in that the nature of his misses—with air balls, or shots that miss the rim altogether—is more troubling than the actual percentage he shoots. Additionally, his 63% mark at the line is subpar for someone at his position.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/will-there-ever-be-justise-for-the-knicks-1428095059

I didn't someone at #4 who is going to be extremely inefficient on offense, can't shoot, and can't create his own shot. He'll be a good defender but he doesn't even have the speed and length to be an elite defender. Whenever he wasn't getting his points in college, his defensive effort was questionable. And finally, he started to play really well when he was put at PF because college 4s couldn't keep up with him, he's not playing PF in he NBA.

I really didn't get all the hype around him before the draft and I said he belonged in the 8-14 range, which is where he went. Plenty of guys win national championships and turn out to be nothing. He's not on the same level as Mario as a prospect and it's a toss up between him and Stanley Johnson. I breathed a huge sigh of relief when we didn't take him.
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Post#2420 » by bballoctober » Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:12 pm

Did you guys know that Mason Plumlee got traded to the Blazers ? Last transaction that happened on draft night apparently.
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