Free Agency Thread -David West to Spurs for free

LittleRooster · Post #181 » by **LittleRooster** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:25 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:Who the hell is Matt Miller?

The guy who just cooked Lasry his omelette at the Pfister and he asked to tweet that out to try and get something going.

drew881 · Post #182 » by **drew881** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 3:33 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:Who the hell is Matt Miller?

The guy who just cooked Lasry his omelette at the Pfister and he asked to tweet that out to try and get something going.

The Pfister is Kohl era. Bet they have somewhere nicer lined up.

Post #183 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:31 pm

For the few of you that like Kanter, I think that one won't happen for the simple reason he is an RFA. Would be hard to see OKC not match with new TV money coming. While Alex Kennedy tweeted out interest, even if Kanter wanted to come here he can't.

VooDoo7 · Post #184 » by **VooDoo7** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:44 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:For the few of you that like Kanter, I think that one won't happen for the simple reason he is an RFA. Would be hard to see OKC not match with new TV money coming. While Alex Kennedy tweeted out interest, even if Kanter wanted to come here he can't.

You're probably right. But maybe they're high enough on Adams and McGary where they won't wanna tie that money up in the center position with both of those guys there. Unless they view McGary as strictly a PF.

M-C-G · Post #185 » by **M-C-G** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:44 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:For the few of you that like Kanter, I think that one won't happen for the simple reason he is an RFA. Would be hard to see OKC not match with new TV money coming. While Alex Kennedy tweeted out interest, even if Kanter wanted to come here he can't.

Talk about a team with an unbalanced roster, Ibaka, Kanter, Adams, Collison, McGary, Dakari all in line for minutes at the C.

If they resign Kanter, I am offering cap and our 2016 pick for Adams (assuming we aren't doing a bigger free agent).

Novak, Austin, Adams for 8.5M in cap/TPE and 2016 LP....They should think long and hard about that. Why sign Robin Lopez when you can get the 21 year old version of him with higher upside?

tydett · Post #186 » by **tydett** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:49 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:For the few of you that like Kanter, I think that one won't happen for the simple reason he is an RFA. Would be hard to see OKC not match with new TV money coming. While Alex Kennedy tweeted out interest, even if Kanter wanted to come here he can't.

Kanter isn't going anywhere. Offer him the max, and he costs just as much as one of the other FA's who bring more to the table. Offer him less, and OKC matches without hesitation. It's pretty well known down here that whatever Kanter gets is gonna get matched, even if it is a max. He's their shot to "show KD that they're committed to winning."

buckboy · Post #187 » by **buckboy** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:50 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:For the few of you that like Kanter, I think that one won't happen for the simple reason he is an RFA. Would be hard to see OKC not match with new TV money coming. While Alex Kennedy tweeted out interest, even if Kanter wanted to come here he can't.

You're probably right. But maybe they're high enough on Adams and McGary where they won't wanna tie that money up in the center position with both of those guys there. Unless they view McGary as strictly a PF.

If you listen to their fans on the trade board it seems like it's almost a foregone conclusion that they're keeping him.

Thank God.

I would definitely go after Adams. Something has to give there

raferfenix · Post #188 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:54 pm

I think I've successfully rationalized our draft day moves -- the Vasquez trade is about making us more attractive in free agency.

Star big men will want PG's better than Bayless or Ennis to feed them, especially a steady vet who can shoot to compel improvement from MCW.

This could be a Luke Ridnour kind of trade that looks baffling on paper but on the court turns out to clearly make sense. Kidd targeted this guy for two years so will likely want to resign him too.

Vaughn is a kid to develop off the bench to take over after Bayless and / or OJ Mayo move on. It also gives us a more flexibility to trade one of them this summer, especially since Vasquez can play SG next to a PG.

...of course if we whiff in free agency this looks a lot worse. But until then I'm hoping for the best.

JustinCredible · Post #189 » by **JustinCredible** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:57 pm

raferfenix wrote:I think I've successfully rationalized our draft day moves -- the Vasquez trade is about making us more attractive in free agency.

Star big men will want PG's better than Bayless or Ennis to feed them, especially a steady vet who can shoot to compel improvement from MCW.

This could be a Luke Ridnour kind of trade that looks baffling on paper but on the court turns out to clearly make sense. Kidd targeted this guy for two years so will likely want to resign him too.

Vaughn is a kid to develop off the bench to take over after Bayless and / or OJ Mayo move on. It also gives us a more flexibility to trade one of them this summer, especially since Vasquez can play SG next to a PG.

...of course if we whiff in free agency this looks a lot worse. But until then I'm hoping for the best.

When asked why he decided to take his talents to Milwaukee the prized free agent said, "They've got Vasquez."

Yea....no.

raferfenix · Post #190 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:58 pm

Also for RFA free agents and otherwise I'd consider how part of the Bucks pitch might be that we're very willing to work with their team to make it worth their while to do a sign and trade to get the player more money.

Right now we don't have the salary space to sign any max free agent outright. Maybe we get that by trading Bayless or Mayo elsewhere.

Or maybe we're planning on sending some combination of Henson / Plumlee / Ennis / Bayless / Mayo / etc. in a sign and trade to make it less cataclysmic to the other team.

JayMKE · Post #191 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:59 pm

I think Ajinca would be a good fit for what Kidd likes to do, he's got more skill and physical ability in the same role as Zaza while being way more efficient last year plus he's massive at 7'2" and a 7'9" wingspan! He's young enough yet where it shouldn't be to big of a worry about giving him a multi year contract. I think the fit would be excellent for the time frame that we'd sign him and the roster that we have right now minute wise. Zaza and Henson would still have considerable roles to play and I think harmonious minutes distribution would probably be good for the team as a whole. I'm hoping he might be a little under the radar and a cheaper option than what else we might be looking at. Maybe he could mentor Inglis a little bit as a fellow Frenchman too. Just a perfect fit.

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2015/5/5/8548109/alexis-ajinca-pelicans-efficient-european-NBA-player-2014-15-season-review

LUKE23 · Post #192 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:00 pm

Yeah, Vasquez has zero impact on attracting FA. If anything he hurt our FA chances for now given the cap hit we take on.

raferfenix · Post #193 » by **raferfenix** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:05 pm

JustinCredible wrote:
raferfenix wrote:I think I've successfully rationalized our draft day moves -- the Vasquez trade is about making us more attractive in free agency.

Star big men will want PG's better than Bayless or Ennis to feed them, especially a steady vet who can shoot to compel improvement from MCW.

This could be a Luke Ridnour kind of trade that looks baffling on paper but on the court turns out to clearly make sense. Kidd targeted this guy for two years so will likely want to resign him too.

Vaughn is a kid to develop off the bench to take over after Bayless and / or OJ Mayo move on. It also gives us a more flexibility to trade one of them this summer, especially since Vasquez can play SG next to a PG.

...of course if we whiff in free agency this looks a lot worse. But until then I'm hoping for the best.

When asked why he decided to take his talents to Milwaukee the prized free agent said, "They've got Vasquez."

Yea....no.

Ha, of course not.

Rather I'm thinking Kidd says to free agent: I know better than anyone else on this planet how to set up our offense to get you tons of easy buckets around the hoop. Trust me when I say I know our guard rotation will be up to the challenge.

coolhandluke121 · Post #194 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:08 pm

raferfenix wrote:I think I've successfully rationalized our draft day moves -- the Vasquez trade is about making us more attractive in free agency.

Star big men will want PG's better than Bayless or Ennis to feed them, especially a steady vet who can shoot to compel improvement from MCW.

This could be a Luke Ridnour kind of trade that looks baffling on paper but on the court turns out to clearly make sense. Kidd targeted this guy for two years so will likely want to resign him too.

I agree that this good be like the Ridnour acquisition. I was thinking about how well the team played with Marshall, and Vasquez is a more proven, experienced version of him.

That's not the issue though. People hated the Ridnour acquisition because they could have just kept Desmond Mason and taken Joe Smith from the Cavs. Both of them had expiring contracts. People would have rather just had the cap space than Ridnour's ~$6m salary, just like they'd rather have the cap space than Vasquez. They underestimated Luke and they're underestimating Greivis. The difference is that the Bucks gave up assets in this instance, and that's not a trivial difference. Greivis will have to be a perfect fit and have a career year in order to justify this.

Post #195 » by **og15** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:39 pm

If a sign and trade for Jordan becomes the situation, what would the Bucks want to send back to the Clippers? Pachulia? Henson?

JayMKE · Post #196 » by **JayMKE** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:53 pm

og15 wrote:If a sign and trade for Jordan becomes the situation, what would the Bucks want to send back to the Clippers? Pachulia? Henson?

not even sure what ball park an offer would be so shoot

Stoltz3 · Post #197 » by **Stoltz3** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:14 pm

Agreed PP, don't really see Kanter coming here

TroyD92 · Post #198 » by **TroyD92** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:39 pm

Monroe would be my choice as long as the offer is in the Robin Lopez territory.

bizarro · Post #199 » by **bizarro** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:53 pm

emunney wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:Who the hell is Matt Miller?

Some guy who is camping.

Maybe he's related to this guy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsvaQR9hKDI&feature=youtu.be[/youtube]

Rendei · Post #200 » by **Rendei** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 6:54 pm

If Jordan goes to Dallas then I really like the Bucks chances of landing Chandler. Even if it seems like a pretty short term solution.

I like Koufos and Ajinca and O'Quinn, but I'm not convinced that those are the guys you want to invest in to be your #1 center. Giannis wants a top flight big man, not a guy who'd be a role player on half the teams in the league.