Free Agency Thread -David West to Spurs for free

[paulpressey25]

Plus rift with CP3, who knows

You posted the max contract numbers for the Clips versus another team a couple weeks ago. What were those? I think another $30 million guaranteed by the Clips gets DeAndre over any personality issues with CP3.

And he's not a guy like LeBron who would get a much better contract next summer with the new cap.

[pack15412]

We could be looking for like, the next Chandler and stuff.

He was on our roster a year ago. We paid him a buyout to leave.

What could have been.... I always thought Larry had the potential to be the next Chandler if he learned the only shots he should be shooting are dunks and putbacks.

[paulpressey25]

He was on our roster a year ago. We paid him a buyout to leave.

This is the problem with all these non all-star FA's or one-year guys. They all are going to get overpaid this summer, even Middleton.

We basically have the Middleton contract and the new center contract work out for us in the long-run.

[4hitter]

"I'm not an insider, but here's what my source inside the organization is telling me" lol

Seriously though, thanks for the nugget of information.


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LOL touché... I just never ask this person for info, but I was confused about draft night and especially the Vasquez trade cutting into our cap space so I inquired. I was specifically told NO on Lopez, not what they're looking for at this point. What I was told also makes me think we don't really consider Jordan an option either because it wouldn't fit the mold. Value, short-term deals at C, and a DEEP roster is what it boiled down to. Not even sure if Chandler fits that but the agent thing makes me think we have an inside track to him.

Thanks for the info. What was the explanation for the Vasquez trade? It's hard to understand.

Yes that explanation was GV is great value and when the season starts you're going to say 'holy **** the Bucks are deep! Also said don't overvalue what a late first round pick is actually worth.

Don't shoot the messenger lol

[Tfence92]

we need to use every last dime of our cap space to absorb crap from other teams along with picks and other young assets.

Spoiler:

give it all to philly to use as they want in an effort to acquire noel.

between all that and whatever else theyd want from us I believe he could be attainable. all these other options in free agency, for the cost associated.... are beyond uninspiring for me. and if noel is unattainable even with all that then it still changes nothing for me. keep whatever assets we can find and as the years go by use it find more Vasquez type pieces....... guys that are perfect fits instead of just decent.

This is exactly what I wanted to do, but now they draft came and went and we did the opposite. Hopefully we can sign a solid big man in FA, but I'm really worried that we have no shot at any of the ones that are actually good, and end up overpaying for someone like Koufus; which is why I really thought it would be best to take on bad contracts for more assets.

[Ron Swanson]

I too am interested in seeing what Philly would take in a return for Noel. I'd be willing to thrown in a top 10 protected 1st along with a couple prospects (Ennis, Inglis) and/or expirings to get it done.

[Dcebucks11]

I too am interested in seeing what Philly would take in a return for Noel. I'd be willing to thrown in a top 10 protected 1st along with a couple prospects (Ennis, Inglis) and/or expirings to get it done.

They're not gonna take that, would you? they view Noel same way we view jabari and giannis

[theFireBlanket]

If anything, Chandler's statement makes me think he won't be coming here. "Humbled"? LOL.

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[Bernman]

Last year was like FTD, only from this team the Bucks have 3 better players going forward than FTD did, and can potentially make it a 4th by investing in free agency. So really to make that comparison about it going forward and to suggest not taking a good free agent if we can get him is flat out ridiculous.

If we don't look to add another solid starter in free agency, where else could we probably find him in the future? You know we're not landing any more top 10 picks, right? That ship is sailed. We're entrenched as being too good for that. We shouldn't be tanking in free agency for a #18 pick instead of #22. And if we can add a solid starter thru trades, a Lopez or whoever is not going to stop us. If anything they'd empower us to move Henson for potential future starters where if we hold onto him we pay an exorbitant sum for a role player or lose him for nothing.

Oh, and the arena vote, that's happening to even keep us in the state and make these conversations meaningful. Zero signings, Boban, Kyle O'Quinn, etc. certainly aren't improving the chances of getting the result we want.

Using this money/space to invest in a significant free agent is the sensible thing to do if we don't continually strike out first and end up reaching and signing some sort of fringe starter to a sizable long-term deal we might regret in the future when we're trying to pay our core.

P.S.: A vote for a new arena to even keep us in the state, that's about to happen. And signing nobody or Boban

[Ron Swanson]

I too am interested in seeing what Philly would take in a return for Noel. I'd be willing to thrown in a top 10 protected 1st along with a couple prospects (Ennis, Inglis) and/or expirings to get it done.

They're not gonna take that, would you? they view Noel same way we view jabari and giannis

If so then they're delusional. Noel is a good prospect but he isn't some blue-chipper with two-way potential you can build a team around. They traded MCW for a pick that only has a minuscule chance of landing in the top 10. I'd consider loosening the protection on the pick (top 7 protected) if need be, but anything more would be an overpay.

[Bernman]

You're both wrong.

They don't nearly view Noel the same way we do Giannis/Jabari. If they did he wouldn't be in so many trade rumors. He's a good defender/solid rebounder who is a virtual garbage man on the offensive end. That makes him a low core player to super-charged role one.

But that still is considerably too much to give for the limited upside of a top 10 protected pick as a main piece. We'd have to top 3 protect it at most, and still you figure they wouldn't in all likelihood do it because the Bucks project to be way better than that.

[El Duderino]

I think our targets (and dollars the market will force Milwaukee to pay) will be:

1) Robin Lopez : Will take 4/$56-60mm

2) Tyson Chandler : Will take 3/$44

We will get a courtesy phone call with Jordan, Kanter and Brook, but all three stay with their teams on five year deal w/Kanter getting four year RFA match. No chance for any of them.

In the case of Chandler, Cuban won't let him walk.

Prediction? Rolo a Buck a week from now.

I'd rather have Robin Lopez than Chandler, but not at 15 million per over four years. Can he really command a contract like that?

[Bernman]

I'd rather have Robin Lopez than Chandler, but not at 15 million per over four years. Can he really command a contract like that?

Yeah, that would be an insane deal to make both for the per annum # and considering he'd overlap with when our potential young stars will expect to get paid. If he's making 15 million per, the least he could do is not have it carry into Jabari's next contract. 2 or 3 year deal or clearly no go. Just about anybody we sign, outside of Middleton, it should be for 2-3 years, especially a 3rd tier fa such as Rolo.

[BroncoBuck]

Noel has played great since they got rid of MCW. He's been pretty good at the PnR since the trade and has become a much better player. No way they take a top 10 protected pick. They are going to want a guaranteed top 10 pick, possibly top 5.

[Buckrageous]

If anything, Chandler's statement makes me think he won't be coming here. "Humbled"? LOL.

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I wish Jason Kidd had some younger friends in the league. Oh well

[Dcebucks11]

You're both wrong.

They don't nearly view Noel the same way we do Giannis/Jabari. If they did he wouldn't be in so many trade rumors. He's a good defender/solid rebounder who is a virtual garbage man on the offensive end. That makes him a low core player to super-charged role one.

But that still is considerably too much to give for the limited upside of a top 10 protected pick as a main piece. We'd have to top 3 protect it at most, and still you figure they wouldn't in all likelihood do it because the Bucks project to be way better than that.

Hes in made up trade rumors cuz philly took another Big with another top pick..

[BucksFanSD]

I think our targets (and dollars the market will force Milwaukee to pay) will be:

1) Robin Lopez : Will take 4/$56-60mm

2) Tyson Chandler : Will take 3/$44

We will get a courtesy phone call with Jordan, Kanter and Brook, but all three stay with their teams on five year deal w/Kanter getting four year RFA match. No chance for any of them.

In the case of Chandler, Cuban won't let him walk.

Prediction? Rolo a Buck a week from now.

I'd rather have Robin Lopez than Chandler, but not at 15 million per over four years. Can he really command a contract like that?

Yeah that would be an overpay, in my opinion anyways. If we're forking that much money I'd want to see a center that offers offense. Else, we're still stuck in the mud when it comes to offense.

[Sherman Douglas]

Plus rift with CP3, who knows

Can we get Aaron Rodgers to make a pitch?


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To a die hard Cowboys fan?

I'm in no way suggesting we should get Aaron Rodgers to pitch Jordan on coming here, nor would I want us to, considering I don't want Jordan here. But that being said, if I were a young athlete and a future Hall of Fame athlete called me to pitch me on my next team, I wouldn't really care what team he played for.

[drew881]

I wish Jason Kidd had some younger friends in the league. Oh well

It will only get worse!

[trwi7]

@dgaulmanshow: Had someone close to Mavs owner Mark Cuban tell me DeAndre Jordan is "really considering" Dallas as his new team. @BrettNBA

@BrettNBA: NFL star Dez Bryant and Chandler Parsons are expected to have a role in the Mavs free agency pitch to DeAndre Jordan, a source said.

Plus rift with CP3, who knows

Can we get Aaron Rodgers to make a pitch?


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"If you sign with the Bucks, I'll admit on national TV that Dez actually did catch that ball."