Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[AtheJ415]

I can tell you if you like. It will be a bit like having Frye back but will likely cost you more. Also he's an even worse defender and rebounder. Mostly because he plays far from the basket but so does Bledsoe and he averages 5.1 rebounds a game. That's 1.4 rebounds a game more than the 6' 10" guy. Also, Gallo's shooting has been mediocre. He hasn't shot over 42% from the floor since his second year, and only 35% from 3 last year which would sadly make him our 2nd best. (We really shot the 3 poorly last year. It's a huge concern.) Lastly, he'd be a permanent fixture on the dirty in Scottsdale.

Saying Gallo's offensive game is similar to Frye's is like saying Josh Childress is the next Kevin Durant.

Oh christ. I said "a bit" but you go run your mouth like I said they are the exact same. Lord the posters around here sometimes.

There's nothing "a bit" similar. Unless you're saying everyone who has a jump shot is "a bit" similar offensively to every other player with a jump shot.

For one, they don't play the same position, the same style, or the same way. Galinari can create 1 on 1 very effectively, and can dribble. Frye can't do anything but stand and shoot.

I guess that means Kyle Korver's offensive game is a bit similar to Kevin Durant's by your logic.

Also, just fyi, my mouth didn't move while I was TYPING this. Posters on here.

[BobbieL]

I think Pacers is a good place to trade with regarding the Morris twins, if McD is indeed shopping them.
Future pick(s) or Turner would be my target.

That's a good plan. It seems like if they can get the legal situation cleared on Tuesday, believe its the 30th - they would be available for some team - good value as the Suns would probably be selling a bit low

What about David Lee? I know he makes $15m next year but the price to get him shouldn't be much. I am sure GSW would love to clear the cap to sign Green of course. One year rental, high cost to Sarver but low value to get. Granted, would GSW make a trade with Phoenix or would they rather ship him to the East where he cannot hurt them.

[letsgosuns]

Unless the Suns get a superstar through free agency or trade, this is going to be another rebuilding year, obviously. I hope they get Aldridge but I am gonna put the Suns chances at 1%. No chance on Love. I think he stays in Cleveland for the 5 year max. I do not really care about Love anyway. The Cavs defense was so much better without Love in the game. Bad sign. So imo, other than signing Aldridge or getting a superstar in a trade, what else can they possibly do to take the next step. It would have to be with their own players' development. It is the only way.

[thamadkant]

I like David Lee as consolation signing after missing out on the big FAs.
The reason being is that is expiring, but also he can contribute IMMEDIATELY is Suns plan to make the playoffs.

If Suns want a "re-start" fresh in the 2016 off-season BUT try to make the playoffs for 2015-2016 season, they can trade out Tucker, Morris twins... trade for Lee and Gallinari, bot whom are veterans who can be good locker room presence for the youth.

Lee is a good passer and rebounder, as well as in offensive rebounding/put backs. Gallinari is a special shooter that can light up and have huge scoring outburst from the perimeter.

[BobbieL]

Unless the Suns get a superstar through free agency or trade, this is going to be another rebuilding year, obviously. I hope they get Aldridge but I am gonna put the Suns chances at 1%. No chance on Love. I think he stays in Cleveland for the 5 year max. I do not really care about Love anyway. The Cavs defense was so much better without Love in the game. Bad sign. So imo, other than signing Aldridge or getting a superstar in a trade, what else can they possibly do to take the next step. It would have to be with their own players' development. It is the only way.

I agree with your auto=signature

And I will ask you this question: Even if the Suns do not get Love or Aldridge - would you still try to clear the contracts of the Morris twins?

My answer - yes. I think it would free up money but also make the locker room better. Yes, they are on decent deals but the defense is not consistent; the rebounding is not consistent so its just replacing their offense. I think a healthy Granger can replace Marcus. Granger was a good player. So now its about replacing Kieff.

[thamadkant]

As per Wiretap.

McD seems to be putting it out there that the Suns are "trying" to secure FA stars.
...I think he already knows that the Suns only have a remote chance of signing a big star FA, and he is saying this for the fans to get the impression the FO is trying. Why do I feel that? Well, one, its because the player targets are linked to other "better" teams, two... McD is very subtle when it comes to transaction information.

[AtheJ415]

I'd rather have Kieff than Lee, so I'm hating that option.

[batsmasher]

http://hoopshype.com/rumor/brandon-knight-to-sign-with-suns/

I’ve been told by an NBA official that Knight, who’ll become a restricted free agent on July 1, will sign a five-year, $70 million contract with the Suns.

5/70 is an excellent deal for Knight.

[Damkac]

So exacly the same contract that Bledsoe get? It would be nice.

[Qwigglez]

Even less Damkac. Bledsoe got 14mil a season, Knight is 12mil a season. Super sweet deal if you ask me.

[letsgosuns]

Even less Damkac. Bledsoe got 14mil a season, Knight is 12mil a season. Super sweet deal if you ask me.

How are you getting the 12 million per season number? Knight is set to sign a 5/70 deal. That is 14 million a year.

[Qwigglez]

I think we might be a low-key under the radar team that Aldridge takes a serious look at. Everyone is talking about the Spurs, but once Timmy, Manu, and Parker retire who do they have left? They have Kawhi and a bunch of role players on short term deals. We've got our entire roster locked up and most of our roster hasn't even peaked yet.
Dallas is the same situation as the Spurs, except they don't have a star like Kawhi. I think a lot of you are underrating the Suns position compared to the other teams in the West.

[Qwigglez]

Even less Damkac. Bledsoe got 14mil a season, Knight is 12mil a season. Super sweet deal if you ask me.

How are you getting the 12 million per season number? Knight is set to sign a 5/70 deal. That is 14 million a year.

Sorry, just woke up . Math was off, weird because I'm half Asian.
Anyway, still not a bad deal, I was thinking he was gonna get like 5 year 84mil.

[letsgosuns]

Even less Damkac. Bledsoe got 14mil a season, Knight is 12mil a season. Super sweet deal if you ask me.

How are you getting the 12 million per season number? Knight is set to sign a 5/70 deal. That is 14 million a year.

Sorry, just woke up . Math was off, weird because I'm half Asian.
Anyway, still not a bad deal, I was thinking he was gonna get like 5 year 84mil.

Hahaha yeah. I hoped he would agree to the same contract Bledsoe got. And now that it is all locked up the team can tell Aldridge they have Bledsoe, Knight, Len, Warren, Goodwin, Granger, and whoever else to try to lure him to Phoenix.

[BobbieL]

I think we might be a low-key under the radar team that Aldridge takes a serious look at. Everyone is talking about the Spurs, but once Timmy, Manu, and Parker retire who do they have left? They have Kawhi and a bunch of role players on short term deals. We've got our entire roster locked up and most of our roster hasn't even peaked yet.
Dallas is the same situation as the Spurs, except they don't have a star like Kawhi. I think a lot of you are underrating the Suns position compared to the other teams in the West.

In the other thread - the "NBA news" thread I tried to make the case why I think of the five teams mentioned for Love: Cleveland, Portland, Boston, Phoenix and the Lakers - the Suns are the third team based on young core and how a guy like Love would be that piece that makes the roster. And of that, Portland is only second really because its his home town and Lillard.

Aldridge does the same thing for the Suns. Slides right into that 4 spot. And I agree - for the next five years - it seems like the Suns, now that they signed Knight - would seem to have a nucleus in place. And if you are able to move the Morri and Tucker for minimal cap hit moving forward just for the cap space - and still sign a guy like Carroll or Green - you really would have a very nice team and nucleus. The rest of your roster are minimum level or cheaper role player types: Granger, Warren, maybe Patric Young for a back up 4; WRight or Koufos for a back up 5; a veteran PG like Ish or Barea or Cory Joseph. I didn't mention Leuer so he is involved. Booker in the D League this year but he is the future.

Plus that leaves Goodwin, Bullock and the rights to Bogdanovich to trade.

I am not trying to be a homer - but the Suns do have some positives
Aldridge
Love
Lee
Monroe

The Suns should be able to get one of those four (Hopefully) - move some bad contracts and still get that wing shooter.

[jcsunsfan]

Who wouldn't trade Bledsoe for Kyrie? Kyrie is almost 3 years younger, which is insane.

While most GM's around the league would rather have Kyrie than Bledsoe, I could easily see Cleveland wanting just the opposite. Bledsoe is a much better defender and doesnt have to score to be effective. Bledsoe's defense and rebounding would make him a better fit to play alongside Le Bron.

It takes just the right players to play with LeBron.

[letsgosuns]

So Knight has agreed to the 5 year, 70 million dollar deal. Goran Dragic is possibly going to get 5 years, 100+ million. At the very least, he is most likely going to get a 4 year, 85 million dollar from another franchise if he does not re-sign with the Heat. Knight is 6 years younger and has better numbers in nearly every statistical category except overall field goal percentage and turnovers. He beats Dragic in points, rebounds, assists, free throw percentage, three-point percentage, free throw attempts per game, and steals. All of that in less minutes per game too. Who would you rather have? 23 year old Knight at 14 million a year or 29 year old Dragic at 21+ million a year? Pretty obvious answer to me.

[BobbieL]

How are you getting the 12 million per season number? Knight is set to sign a 5/70 deal. That is 14 million a year.

Sorry, just woke up . Math was off, weird because I'm half Asian.
Anyway, still not a bad deal, I was thinking he was gonna get like 5 year 84mil.

Hahaha yeah. I hoped he would agree to the same contract Bledsoe got. And now that it is all locked up the team can tell Aldridge they have Bledsoe, Knight, Len, Warren, Goodwin, Granger, and whoever else to try to lure him to Phoenix.

Exactly. The Suns get the right 4 in their lineup, add a couple more bench players like a back up C, maybe a wing shooter, a back up PG - they are right there for a big rebuild and improved team.

[Sunsdeuce]

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There you go. It's refreshing not having to deal with that turd rich paul. See bledsoe that's how your suppose to business.

[jcsunsfan]

So Knight has agreed to the 5 year, 70 million dollar deal. Goran Dragic is possibly going to get 5 years, 100+ million. At the very least, he is most likely going to get a 4 year, 85 million dollar from another franchise if he does not re-sign with the Heat. Knight is 6 years younger and has better numbers in nearly every statistical category except overall field goal percentage and turnovers. He beats Dragic in points, rebounds, assists, free throw percentage, three-point percentage, free throw attempts per game, and steals. All of that in less minutes per game too. Who would you rather have? 23 year old Knight at 14 million a year or 29 year old Dragic at 21+ million a year? Pretty obvious answer to me.

Lets wait to see what Knight actually signs for. But all that aside, I do want the guy who actually WANTS to play here.