Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[jcsunsfan]

Sorry, just woke up . Math was off, weird because I'm half Asian.
Anyway, still not a bad deal, I was thinking he was gonna get like 5 year 84mil.

Hahaha yeah. I hoped he would agree to the same contract Bledsoe got. And now that it is all locked up the team can tell Aldridge they have Bledsoe, Knight, Len, Warren, Goodwin, Granger, and whoever else to try to lure him to Phoenix.

Exactly. The Suns get the right 4 in their lineup, add a couple more bench players like a back up C, maybe a wing shooter, a back up PG - they are right there for a big rebuild and improved team.

I would love this, but I believe that Alderidge is going to San Antonio. He has family there.

[letsgosuns]

McDonough said the team has about 12 million dollars to go into free agency with and can clear more money if they need it. If they can clear the Morris brothers' and Tucker's contracts, that would add another 18 million dollars worth of space. Is 30 million dollars enough to say sign Aldridge and Carroll? Does anyone know what Aldridge's max number starts at? If they could pull that off (obviously a dream-style scenario), I think they would have a great team.

[thamadkant]

I think we might be a low-key under the radar team that Aldridge takes a serious look at. Everyone is talking about the Spurs, but once Timmy, Manu, and Parker retire who do they have left? They have Kawhi and a bunch of role players on short term deals. We've got our entire roster locked up and most of our roster hasn't even peaked yet.
Dallas is the same situation as the Spurs, except they don't have a star like Kawhi. I think a lot of you are underrating the Suns position compared to the other teams in the West.

Aldridge can sign a 2 year contract with the Spurs.... win a championship then sign 1 last 3-4 year contract in an increased salary cap environment.

Spurs may only have the next 2 years as a real championship contender, but thats what Aldridge wants... a legit shot SOON, as in next season and the season after.

I do think Suns with Aldridge are likely to be 5th or 6th spot in the West, but still behind teams like Grizzlies, Rockets. Maybe same win/loss ratio as Clippers, but Clippers have big time players like Paul and Griffin... if they lose Deandre and gain Chandler... they dont lose much defense at all... they actually get smarter defensively.

[thamadkant]

McDonough said the team has about 12 million dollars to go into free agency with and can clear more money if they need it. If they can clear the Morris brothers' and Tucker's contracts, that would add another 18 million dollars worth of space. Is 30 million dollars enough to say sign Aldridge and Carroll? Does anyone know what Aldridge's max number starts at? If they could pull that off (obviously a dream-style scenario), I think they would have a great team.

C: Len
PF: Aldridge
SF: Carroll
SG: Knight
PG: Bledsoe
PG/SG: Goodwin
SF: Warren
SG/SF: Booker
PF/C: Wright OR FA (Biyombo, Ajinca etc)

Probably good for 4-5th seed out west.... then get Durant in 2016

[lilfishi22]

http://hoopshype.com/rumor/brandon-knight-to-sign-with-suns/

I’ve been told by an NBA official that Knight, who’ll become a restricted free agent on July 1, will sign a five-year, $70 million contract with the Suns.

5/70 is an excellent deal for Knight.

Is this the difference between working with an experienced agent who knows his client's value and actually work with the front office to get a deal done vs an inexperienced agent who has an overinflated idea of his client's value and refusing to deal with the front office until they are out of options?

[letsgosuns]

The Suns need to show up to Aldridge's house with the Bledsoe, Knight, Len, the coaching staff including Aldridge's personal friend and new Suns assistant coach Earl Watson, Sarver, Tom Chambers, Eddie Johnson, even the Gorilla. I do not care what it takes. Just like Paola Boivin said recently to do what the Suns did when they recruited Nash. I do not know if it will work but it is worth a shot. An entourage of people like that can blow a player away. Watson can talk to him. Chambers can explain to Aldridge he can do what Chambers did for the Suns in the 1980's except go even further and hopefully take them to a championship. Suns have nothing to lose. Who knows what could happen.

[TeamTragic]

The Suns need to show up to Aldridge's house with the Bledsoe, Knight, Len, the coaching staff including Aldridge's personal friend and new Suns assistant coach Earl Watson, Sarver, Tom Chambers, Eddie Johnson, even the Gorilla. I do not care what it takes. Just like Paola Boivin said recently to do what the Suns did when they recruited Nash. I do not know if it will work but it is worth a shot. An entourage of people like that can blow a player away. Watson can talk to him. Chambers can explain to Aldridge he can do what Chambers did for the Suns in the 1980's except go even further and hopefully take them to a championship. Suns have nothing to lose. Who knows what could happen.

Just let him know that he will be appreciated and that we envision him our leader. Give him the keys to the team and allow him to choose who we pursue in FA

[BobbieL]

The Suns need to show up to Aldridge's house with the Bledsoe, Knight, Len, the coaching staff including Aldridge's personal friend and new Suns assistant coach Earl Watson, Sarver, Tom Chambers, Eddie Johnson, even the Gorilla. I do not care what it takes. Just like Paola Boivin said recently to do what the Suns did when they recruited Nash. I do not know if it will work but it is worth a shot. An entourage of people like that can blow a player away. Watson can talk to him. Chambers can explain to Aldridge he can do what Chambers did for the Suns in the 1980's except go even further and hopefully take them to a championship. Suns have nothing to lose. Who knows what could happen.

I agree. They need to present the current team, the players under contract, the cap space for more additions to the roster - like a Carroll or Green (especially if you are able to clear 19m with the Morris twins, Tucker and either Bullock or Goodwin). If the Suns clear that much space - they could easily sign Aldridge or Love, the wing player and a back up center. Granted, I still think Aldridge is a VERY long shot

At this point, I think the Suns will:
trade the Morris and Tucker
sign a wing guy, Carroll
resign a back up C, WRight or Koufos
get a guy like Ish at PG
the last but not least, trade for David Lee

[BobbieL]

The Suns need to show up to Aldridge's house with the Bledsoe, Knight, Len, the coaching staff including Aldridge's personal friend and new Suns assistant coach Earl Watson, Sarver, Tom Chambers, Eddie Johnson, even the Gorilla. I do not care what it takes. Just like Paola Boivin said recently to do what the Suns did when they recruited Nash. I do not know if it will work but it is worth a shot. An entourage of people like that can blow a player away. Watson can talk to him. Chambers can explain to Aldridge he can do what Chambers did for the Suns in the 1980's except go even further and hopefully take them to a championship. Suns have nothing to lose. Who knows what could happen.

I agree. They need to present the current team, the players under contract, the cap space for more additions to the roster - like a Carroll or Green (especially if you are able to clear 19m with the Morris twins, Tucker and either Bullock or Goodwin) and present a plan. If the Suns clear that much space - they could easily sign Aldridge or Love, the wing player and a back up center. Granted, I still think Aldridge is a VERY long shot. As was mentioned, Aldridge could go to the Spurs for one last go round with Kawhi, Parker and Duncan.

At this point, I think the Suns will:
trade the Morris and Tucker
sign a wing guy, Carroll
resign a back up C, WRight or Koufos
get a guy like Ish at PG
the last but not least, trade for David Lee

[bigfoot]

For all your Aldridge and Love dreamers here's the free agency version of "All I Have To Do Is Dream" with apologies to the Everly Brothers.

Dream, dream, dream, dream
Dream, dream, dream, dream

When I want you on the Suns
When I want you and your big Guns
Whenever I want you
All I have to do is dream
Dream, dream, dream

When I feel blue in the night
And I need you and all your height
Whenever I want you
All I have to do is dream

I can make you mine
So long as I'm online
Anytime night or day
Only trouble is
Gee whiz
I'm dreamin' my life away

I need you so, that I could die
Free agency and that is why
Whenever I want you
All I have to do is dream

Dream, dream, dream, dream
Dream, dream, dream
Dream, dream, dream, dream
Dream, dream, dream, dream
Dream

[Cutter]

Aldridge would definitely be an upgrade, and would be the best PF Suns have had since Amare. However, he is not good enough to get us much past the first round in the playoffs. He couldn't carry the Blazers anywhere, and the same would happen here. If the choice is Aldridge at PF or rolling with Kieff, I guess I choose Aldridge. However I wouldn't be super excited.

[MrMiyagi]

I hate to pop the bubble around the Aldridge dream, but I don't think he'll be coming to Phoenix. I wonder if we could get Draymond Green on a deal similar to Knight and Bledsoe's. But if you're a star, wouldn't you want to play in that situation with those young guys? Not to mention a young rim protector in Len and a possible sharp shooter in Booker. I would be courting him very hard right now.

EDIT: This would be to position for next offseason and making a case to someone like Durant when the salary cap should explode.

[bwgood77]

Unless the Suns get a superstar through free agency or trade, this is going to be another rebuilding year, obviously. I hope they get Aldridge but I am gonna put the Suns chances at 1%. No chance on Love. I think he stays in Cleveland for the 5 year max. I do not really care about Love anyway. The Cavs defense was so much better without Love in the game. Bad sign. So imo, other than signing Aldridge or getting a superstar in a trade, what else can they possibly do to take the next step. It would have to be with their own players' development. It is the only way.

I think Love is a bigger chance than Aldridge, but I put it at Love - 1% and Aldridge - .5%, so obviously I am not expecting much. Love might be higher, depending on the pitch, but I don't think we are really on his list and I don't even think Aldridge would consider coming here...the main reason he wants to leave is to get closer to family (according to what I have read) and I think the Spurs are probably the favorite with Dallas a possibility as well.

[bwgood77]

Who wouldn't trade Bledsoe for Kyrie? Kyrie is almost 3 years younger, which is insane.

While most GM's around the league would rather have Kyrie than Bledsoe, I could easily see Cleveland wanting just the opposite. Bledsoe is a much better defender and doesnt have to score to be effective. Bledsoe's defense and rebounding would make him a better fit to play alongside Le Bron.

It takes just the right players to play with LeBron.

The best fits around LeBron are great 3 point shooters because he demands so much attention someone is always open. Bledsoe is not that, and is best on offense with the ball in his hands, so I don't think they'd rather have Bledsoe than Irving. No team would.

[bwgood77]

The Suns need to show up to Aldridge's house with the Bledsoe, Knight, Len, the coaching staff including Aldridge's personal friend and new Suns assistant coach Earl Watson, Sarver, Tom Chambers, Eddie Johnson, even the Gorilla. I do not care what it takes. Just like Paola Boivin said recently to do what the Suns did when they recruited Nash. I do not know if it will work but it is worth a shot. An entourage of people like that can blow a player away. Watson can talk to him. Chambers can explain to Aldridge he can do what Chambers did for the Suns in the 1980's except go even further and hopefully take them to a championship. Suns have nothing to lose. Who knows what could happen.

He is not going to leave the Blazers for the Suns. Accept that. Sure, they should try, but it is extremely likely it is a lost cause, and I kind of doubt he meets with us.

[bwgood77]

I hate to pop the bubble around the Aldridge dream, but I don't think he'll be coming to Phoenix. I wonder if we could get Draymond Green on a deal similar to Knight and Bledsoe's. But if you're a star, wouldn't you want to play in that situation with those young guys? Not to mention a young rim protector in Len and a possible sharp shooter in Booker. I would be courting him very hard right now.

EDIT: This would be to position for next offseason and making a case to someone like Durant when the salary cap should explode.

I hate to pop the bubble on the Draymond Green and Durant dreams, but I'm going to go ahead and pop it.

[AtheJ415]

Has anybody heard anything about our chances of re-signing Brandon Wright? I guess i've just mostly assumed he's gone, so I've been hoping he wants to go to a team near the cap limit so that we can get something via sign and trade.

[AtheJ415]

I hate to pop the bubble around the Aldridge dream, but I don't think he'll be coming to Phoenix. I wonder if we could get Draymond Green on a deal similar to Knight and Bledsoe's. But if you're a star, wouldn't you want to play in that situation with those young guys? Not to mention a young rim protector in Len and a possible sharp shooter in Booker. I would be courting him very hard right now.

EDIT: This would be to position for next offseason and making a case to someone like Durant when the salary cap should explode.

I hate to pop the bubble on the Draymond Green and Durant dreams, but I'm going to go ahead and pop it.

I like Draymond, but I think he's horribly over-rated. He benefits drastically from playing as the 4th or 5th offensive option on the court pretty much at all times. I think he's going to get overpaid, and I'd rather Phoenix not be the team to overpay him.

[thamadkant]

Draymond Green is a hustler... he is a taller, more athletic version of Tucker.

His assist numbers are inflated though... I mean, most of the games I've seen him get assists consisted of him at the top of the key or at the perimeter... he rotates the ball to Curry or Thompson for a contested 3pt made shot... +1 assist there.
I am impressed with his ability to "bang", "hold" bigger players than him and the referees ignore it.... mainly because he is undersized and he makes it look like he is the one being fouled. But he is smart that way... you hate it when he does it to your favorite team, but would LOVE it if he does it for YOUR team.

[Cutter]

I hate to pop the bubble around the Aldridge dream, but I don't think he'll be coming to Phoenix. I wonder if we could get Draymond Green on a deal similar to Knight and Bledsoe's. But if you're a star, wouldn't you want to play in that situation with those young guys? Not to mention a young rim protector in Len and a possible sharp shooter in Booker. I would be courting him very hard right now.

EDIT: This would be to position for next offseason and making a case to someone like Durant when the salary cap should explode.

I hate to pop the bubble on the Draymond Green and Durant dreams, but I'm going to go ahead and pop it.

I like Draymond, but I think he's horribly over-rated. He benefits drastically from playing as the 4th or 5th offensive option on the court pretty much at all times. I think he's going to get overpaid, and I'd rather Phoenix not be the team to overpay him.

Beautifully said. And1.