Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[Mulhollanddrive]

Randle? He's not even that good, and he's had a long term injury after 1 week of NBA.

[Revived]

I feel like 75% of posters here seriously overvalue our 'assets' when it comes to trades and 'good young core' when it comes to attracting stars. I mean if you were a Love, an Aldridge conidering young teams would you rather sign with Orlando, Minnesota, Utah to name a few or the Suns? Let's be real, it's not even close.

Can't and-1 this enough.

[thamadkant]

I feel like 75% of posters here seriously overvalue our 'assets' when it comes to trades and 'good young core' when it comes to attracting stars. I mean if you were a Love, an Aldridge conidering young teams would you rather sign with Orlando, Minnesota, Utah to name a few or the Suns? Let's be real, it's not even close.

+ 1

Bledsoe and Knight are the 2 players worth something.
Markieff Morris is worth what ever Al Harrington was worth when he was in his prime.

Len is nice, but yet to wow, Gobert has left him and climbed a complete rung ahead of him.

Warren, Goodwin are not worth anything to other teams, maybe late first rounders to other teams, but worth a heck of a lot more for McD.. who drafted those guys as he is high on them.

Tucker is worth more to playoff teams that need a defensive SF... but every team has a capable SF. Tucker's off court issues travel around the league so thats a knock on him.

Brandon Wright is worth something, many teams feel they can pry him away from the Suns. GMs know Suns wont spend over 7 million on Wright without signing a big star first... no point re-signing Wright if Suns are outside the playoffs.


Hence why us fans will continue hearing Bledsoe's name on the rumor mills. If Bledsoe stays past december, then it'll be Knight joining him on the rumor mills depending how the Suns are rolling.

[thamadkant]

Bucks/Suns

Bledsoe, Morris twins
for
Parker

Calm down buddy.

Fire sales in June?!

In that scenario, Suns upgrade

[Saberestar]

That Suns will seriously explore their Eric Bledsoe trade options if they indeed strikes the deal w/B-Knight that @GeryWoelfel is reporting

https://mobile.twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/615363531945459712

Marc Stein....
Bledsoe will be traded IF we can grab someone for him like Hayward, Tobias Harris ( S&T) or Oladipo.
Parker is too much, he is not available, big Star potential like Wiggins.

[TASTIC]

How bout this whopper (IF we re-sign Knight and want him as PG):



Would need a pick involved to sweeten it for Utah or even SAC I suspect, but Kings do well out of it and PHI get another young PG who could start if they don't want Canaan running the ship...

Our line-up/depth looks like this:

Len
Favors - his contract is CRAZY good
Gay - same with him, $12m a year for the next 4yrs for an annual 20-6-3 guy? Sign me up...
Covington - STEAL contract, PHI knows this so would prob want more.
Knight
---
Wright (re-sign, 2-3yr just above MLE money)
Granger
Warren
Booker

Need some more depth to that bench clearly - some vets might come cheap if we 'rebuild' them and they see they'd play (I'd keep Green too if price is right).

[King4Day]

I'm reading way too may unrealistic trade ideas this morning. Parker is the new cornerstone of the Bucks. He's not going anywhere.

Regarding

Bledsoe/Warren & the two Miami picks plus one of our own for Paul George

I'm not giving up that much for a guy who snapped his leg in half a season ago. Fully healthy, sure. But that's a huge haul for him.

[King4Day]

How bout this whopper (IF we re-sign Knight and want him as PG):



Would need a pick involved to sweeten it for Utah or even SAC I suspect, but Kings do well out of it and PHI get another young PG who could start if they don't want Canaan running the ship...

Our line-up/depth looks like this:

Len
Favors - his contract is CRAZY good
Gay - same with him, $12m a year for the next 4yrs for an annual 20-6-3 guy? Sign me up...
Covington - STEAL contract, PHI knows this so would prob want more.
Knight
---
Wright (re-sign, 2-3yr just above MLE money)
Granger
Warren
Booker

Need some more depth to that bench clearly - some vets might come cheap if we 'rebuild' them and they see they'd play (I'd keep Green too if price is right).

IMO, Kings get annihilated in that trade. Philly gets way too much for giving up pretty much nothing (we know they aren't trading picks worth a damn). Utah can also get more for Favors too, let alone giving up Burke as well.

[JMac1]

I feel like 75% of posters here seriously overvalue our 'assets' when it comes to trades and 'good young core' when it comes to attracting stars. I mean if you were a Love, an Aldridge conidering young teams would you rather sign with Orlando, Minnesota, Utah to name a few or the Suns? Let's be real, it's not even close.

Why?

Those teams have NO established players. The Suns are treadmilling because they are missing a star, those teams you mentioned pick first in the lottery every year, because they have no semblance of a team. having a bunch of young players with potential don't make you a good team.

[King4Day]

I wish someone with insider access to the Suns would post occasionally and give an update of what this team is thinking.

They used to until posters chased them off. Now occasionally they PM me and the other mods, but most the time we are sworn to secrecy.

Is rayray still around? I haven't seen him since the deadline I think it was

[JMac1]

Btw, these trade are either really bad for us or unrealistic. Outside of NYK and Porzingis, I don't see and good Bledsoe deals for both teams.....I repeat, both teams.

[bwgood77]

How bout this whopper (IF we re-sign Knight and want him as PG):



Would need a pick involved to sweeten it for Utah or even SAC I suspect, but Kings do well out of it and PHI get another young PG who could start if they don't want Canaan running the ship...

Our line-up/depth looks like this:

Len
Favors - his contract is CRAZY good
Gay - same with him, $12m a year for the next 4yrs for an annual 20-6-3 guy? Sign me up...
Covington - STEAL contract, PHI knows this so would prob want more.
Knight
---
Wright (re-sign, 2-3yr just above MLE money)
Granger
Warren
Booker

Need some more depth to that bench clearly - some vets might come cheap if we 'rebuild' them and they see they'd play (I'd keep Green too if price is right).

Those #s for the twins don't look right.

[JMac1]

Len is nice, but yet to wow, Gobert has left him and climbed a complete rung ahead of him.

Not ready to jump on that train just yet. Gobert rim protection is great and that is because he was gifted with that, never a question. Defense always comes first with bigs. Len and Gobert are two different players. Wait until Len's offense comes around, then lets compare the two.

[bwgood77]

Btw, these trade are either really bad for us or unrealistic. Outside of NYK and Porzingis, I don't see and good Bledsoe deals for both teams.....I repeat, both teams.

I agree. Bledsoe is not going to the Lakers. They just drafted their PG of the future and they also have Jordan Clarkson. They passed up on Okafor to take Russell.

Cousins is not being moved, nor is Paul George. Bledsoe has value, but only to the Knicks, and possibly Sacramento. Denver just drafted their PG of the future, so Lawson is probably on his way out at some point, which depletes teams need pgs even more.

[TASTIC]

How bout this whopper (IF we re-sign Knight and want him as PG):

Would need a pick involved to sweeten it for Utah or even SAC I suspect, but Kings do well out of it and PHI get another young PG who could start if they don't want Canaan running the ship...

Our line-up/depth looks like this:

Len
Favors - his contract is CRAZY good
Gay - same with him, $12m a year for the next 4yrs for an annual 20-6-3 guy? Sign me up...
Covington - STEAL contract, PHI knows this so would prob want more.
Knight
---
Wright (re-sign, 2-3yr just above MLE money)
Granger
Warren
Booker

Need some more depth to that bench clearly - some vets might come cheap if we 'rebuild' them and they see they'd play (I'd keep Green too if price is right).

IMO, Kings get annihilated in that trade. Philly gets way too much for giving up pretty much nothing (we know they aren't trading picks worth a damn). Utah can also get more for Favors too, let alone giving up Burke as well.

You don't think Kings would trade Gay, Stauskas and Collison for Bledsoe and Markieff??

[King4Day]

How bout this whopper (IF we re-sign Knight and want him as PG):

Would need a pick involved to sweeten it for Utah or even SAC I suspect, but Kings do well out of it and PHI get another young PG who could start if they don't want Canaan running the ship...

Our line-up/depth looks like this:

Len
Favors - his contract is CRAZY good
Gay - same with him, $12m a year for the next 4yrs for an annual 20-6-3 guy? Sign me up...
Covington - STEAL contract, PHI knows this so would prob want more.
Knight
---
Wright (re-sign, 2-3yr just above MLE money)
Granger
Warren
Booker

Need some more depth to that bench clearly - some vets might come cheap if we 'rebuild' them and they see they'd play (I'd keep Green too if price is right).

IMO, Kings get annihilated in that trade. Philly gets way too much for giving up pretty much nothing (we know they aren't trading picks worth a damn). Utah can also get more for Favors too, let alone giving up Burke as well.

You don't think Kings would trade Gay, Stauskas and Collison for Bledsoe and Markieff??

Ha! My bad, the image was small on my screen and I thought it said D. Cousins

[TASTIC]

It'd be pretty damn funny if Bledsoe and Cousins were dealt for each other after wanting to play together.

Bledsoe, Morri, Goodwin and a 1st would be enough I think...

[Barkley6]

If I were looking to make a trade this offseason, the guy I'd be targeting is Nerlens Noel. He played very well for Philly, and they have Embiid and just drafted Okafor. I'd say swapping some of our wing depth for some of their big man depth makes a lot of sense. Not sure exactly what kind of package it would take, but I'd be willing to include Len if need be.

I know A LOT of people here are high on Len, but he just can't seem to stay healthy and he hasn't really shown any kind of consistency in his game. I think it might be better to deal him now while his value is still relatively high than wait and see another season.

[Mr-Al]

If I were looking to make a trade this offseason, the guy I'd be targeting is Nerlens Noel. He played very well for Philly, and they have Embiid and just drafted Okafor. I'd say swapping some of our wing depth for some of their big man depth makes a lot of sense. Not sure exactly what kind of package it would take, but I'd be willing to include Len if need be.

I know A LOT of people here are high on Len, but he just can't seem to stay healthy and he hasn't really shown any kind of consistency in his game. I think it might be better to deal him now while his value is still relatively high than wait and see another season.

no

[carey]

Those #s for the twins don't look right.

Yea. The trade machine is still using '14 numbers. Need to hold off using that until it starts using '15 numbers in July.