Free Agency Thread -David West to Spurs for free

EastSideBucksFan · Post #441 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:40 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Trade for Bledsoe and sign Monroe.

Bledsoe
Middleton
Antetokounmpo
Parker
Monroe

I could get excited about that team. I'm no capologist, but the Vasquez move can't be helping us right now. And we'd probably need to dump Mayo to make room for Bledsoe, Khris and Monroe.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #442 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:41 pm

What the hell is PHX thinking the last 2 years with their PG/SG situation? They overload last year in guards who all play the same way, now they'd choose Knight over Bledsoe?

They've gotten a look at Bledsoe over 2 full seasons in PHX yet choose to pay an imitation PG $14M/yr only to show Bledsoe the door?

Don't get it one bit.

Matches Malone · Post #443 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:42 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Trade for Bledsoe and sign Monroe.

Bledsoe
Middleton
Antetokounmpo
Parker
Monroe

I could get excited about that team. I'm no capologist, but the Vasquez move can't be helping us right now. And we'd probably need to dump Mayo to make room for Bledsoe, Khris and Monroe.

I'd be okay with that. Now that we have Vasquez, he can backup the SG spot. Same with Bayless.

MCW + Henson + Mayo for Bledsoe. Also gives us more roster flexibility to bring back Dudz.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=opp2xlt

BigDee · Post #444 » by **BigDee** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:44 pm

Count me in for trading for Bledsoe.

raferfenix · Post #445 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:46 pm

If the Bucks wanted Bledsoe so badly what has changed since the deadline where the Suns would value our assets for him more?

Yes we've kicked the tires on MCW now. But if Phoenix has made a new decision to trade Bledsoe, I don't see why they would be targeting yet another point guard either -- even if it's coming with Henson and a pick.

Matches Malone · Post #446 » by **Matches Malone** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:49 pm

raferfenix wrote:If the Bucks wanted Bledsoe so badly what has changed since the deadline where the Suns would value our assets for him more?

Yes we've kicked the tires on MCW now. But if Phoenix has made a new decision to trade Bledsoe, I don't see why they would be targeting yet another point guard either -- even if it's coming with Henson and a pick.

It sounds like they are enamored with Knight and if they're willing to give him 5/70 I could see them changing their attitude about Bledsoe. They also just drafted Booker and maybe want him to start right away. A Knight/Booker backcourt with MCW backing up both spots would be nice and if they strike out on getting Love/Aldridge in free agency, Henson might be a nice consolation prize for them in their eyes.

Licensed to Il · Post #447 » by **Licensed to Il** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:53 pm

I'm not sure why people think Monroe upgrades our offense. He is not a good shooter, nor an above average athlete. He camps in the paint, fights for rebounds, is a good passer, and is pretty crafty at taking what the defense offers. By no means a guy you run offense through or strive to get shots for. Defensively, he is a guy you have to adjust your scheme to cover for. Zaza is not a good defender, but smart enough to execute his assignments. There are some pick and roll coverages that Monroe can't even execute.

Gasol is the guy that puts us in the Eastern Conference Finals, but his acquisition is unfathomable.

Robin Lopez is the gettable guy who matches Zaza's size and strength, upgrades his rebounding and defense, and is basically a wash on offense. I know it is not an exciting acquisition, but I expect our wins would rise significantly with this type of signing.

EastSideBucksFan · Post #448 » by **EastSideBucksFan** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 1:54 pm

raferfenix wrote:If the Bucks wanted Bledsoe so badly what has changed since the deadline where the Suns would value our assets for him more?

Yes we've kicked the tires on MCW now. But if Phoenix has made a new decision to trade Bledsoe, I don't see why they would be targeting yet another point guard either -- even if it's coming with Henson and a pick.

It sure would've been nice if we could've just traded Knight for Bledsoe.

Nebula1 · Post #449 » by **Nebula1** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:02 pm

Bledsoe is overrated.

theFireBlanket · Post #450 » by **theFireBlanket** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:06 pm

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He does. Careful what you wish for.

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Nebula1 wrote:Bledsoe is overrated.

Yeah, checking in on Knight to watch him last year helped to realize this about him. I would not replace MCW with EB.

Badgerlander · Post #451 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:06 pm

Villanoeyebrows wrote:I'm not sure why people think Monroe upgrades our offense. He is not a good shooter, nor an above average athlete. He camps in the paint, fights for rebounds, is a good passer, and is pretty crafty at taking what the defense offers. By no means a guy you run offense through or strive to get shots for. Defensively, he is a guy you have to adjust your scheme to cover for. Zaza is not a good defender, but smart enough to execute his assignments. There are some pick and roll coverages that Monroe can't even execute.

Gasol is the guy that puts us in the Eastern Conference Finals, but his acquisition is unfathomable.

Robin Lopez is the gettable guy who matches Zaza's size and strength, upgrades his rebounding and defense, and is basically a wash on offense. I know it is not an exciting acquisition, but I expect our wins would rise significantly with this type of signing.

Monroe in the paint will draw a double team and can pass out of it to the open shooter, RoLo won't, and the difference in price is maybe 3mil?

Badgerlander · Post #452 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:15 pm

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BuckHole · Post #453 » by **BuckHole** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:24 pm

I don't like Monroe.*

*Ted Knight voice

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EasyE31 · Post #454 » by **EasyE31** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:25 pm

Just throwing this out there... could anyone see the Suns/Bucks/Sixers getting together for another 3 team deal?

Sixers get Bledsoe
Bucks get Noel
Suns get Mayo, Henson, Future Bucks 1st

RRyder823 · Post #455 » by **RRyder823** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:39 pm

EasyE31 wrote:Just throwing this out there... could anyone see the Suns/Bucks/Sixers getting together for another 3 team deal?

Sixers get Bledsoe
Bucks get Noel
Suns get Mayo, Henson, Future Bucks 1st

Short answer? No

Sixers are still in full tank mode and adding Bledsoe with his contract contridicts what they're trying to do.

Plus I think it'd be more feasible to just cut philly out, take on Bledsoe ourselves and sign a center in FA

Treebeard · Post #456 » by **Treebeard** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:41 pm

Embiid's ongoing foot injury: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238428/76ers-Legitimately-Concerned-About-Joel-Embiids-Right-Foot

Even up to the day of the draft, I wavered on the prospect of the Bucks picking Embiid. If he's ever right again, he could have been the best outcome for the Bucks (or anyone). Stuff like the ongoing problem with his foot, make him look more like the lost career of Greg Oden.

Chapter29 · Post #457 » by **Chapter29** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:42 pm

Normally I am dead set against trading away a future first.

As it sits right now, I could actually see us doing it.

For starters it may still hold good value. I am confident we will become a winning team, hopefully a strong playoff team soon. We haven't won yet, so the value is probably reasonably high.

We are young enough at the moment. I would much rather start to bring in complimentary talent and start to assume we will be led by Parker and Giannis. Of course hopeful that somehow we find a 3rd "star" to join them.

We are no longer a losing team trying to lose to acquire good draft picks. We are now going to be a team on the winning side of things. How much winning how soon will be dependent on the health of the team and the growth of our star players.

I am all for taking our chances with the core players on this team. Swing for the fences in FA and trade and try to start winning now. Granted we wont be the team we can be in a year or two, but now's the time to take our swing at it and let it develop.

Cooleyo47 · Post #458 » by **Cooleyo47** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:44 pm

EastSideBucksFan wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:MCW and Henson for Bledsoe. Add a top ten lotto protected number one to it.

Done.

Seems like a steep price to pay... Count me in the camp that thinks Bledsoe is overrated, especially by this board.

Nebula1 · Post #459 » by **Nebula1** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:54 pm

Cooleyo47 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:MCW and Henson for Bledsoe. Add a top ten lotto protected number one to it.

Done.

Seems like a steep price to pay... Count me in the camp that thinks Bledsoe is overrated, especially by this board.

This board fondly remembers his Clippers days and conveniently forgets his Suns days. I would not do the suggested deal and feel the Bucks would be a large net loser, if made.

VooDoo7 · Post #460 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Jun 29, 2015 2:56 pm

Nebula1 wrote:
Cooleyo47 wrote:
EastSideBucksFan wrote:

Done.

Seems like a steep price to pay... Count me in the camp that thinks Bledsoe is overrated, especially by this board.

This board fondly remembers his Clippers days and conveniently forgets his Suns days. I would not do the suggested deal and feel the Bucks would be a large net loser, if made.

People also remember Henson's and MCW's Bucks days. Which is why they'd do this deal.