Tobias Harris To Pursue Near Max Deal With Pistons, Celtics Among Leading Suitors

Piston Pete · Post #221 » by **Piston Pete** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:28 pm

^^Agreed...offer the max and be done with it.

Kilo · Post #222 » by **Kilo** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:33 pm

Boston might be willing to S&T for him and have assets to get it done ie buttload of future first rounders.

princeofpalace · Post #223 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:38 pm

Kilo wrote:Boston might be willing to S&T for him and have assets to get it done ie buttload of future first rounders.

This. Ainge offered the farm for Winslow, push comes to shove, he'd probably propose a nice package for Harris.

In the next few days, we probably are going to be talking about Dunleavy, G.Green and D.Wright as SFs because I don't see us landing Carroll (ATL says they want to bring Carrol, Milsap back at all costs), D.Green (Spurs or Mavs, not sure why he'd come here and have to play out of position), Harris (matched by ORL, or Boston bound).

Brad Stevens may be a better coach than SVG. He got a less talented team into the playoffs and turned Jerebko/Datome into productive pieces. I don't see why Harris would choose Detroit over Boston, nor why Orlando would rather have a Jennings/first trade from Detroit vs whatever they could get from Boston.

DetroitPistons · Post #224 » by **DetroitPistons** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:39 pm

Kilo wrote:Boston might be willing to S&T for him and have assets to get it done ie buttload of future first rounders.

True, but again, Harris still has to choose them. Maybe SVG can sell him on Detroit more.

Piston Pete · Post #225 » by **Piston Pete** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:45 pm

And we have something Biston can't offer....a proven, starting calibre NBA veteran PG (Jennings).

princeofpalace · Post #226 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:48 pm

Piston Pete wrote:And we have something Biston can't offer....a proven, starting calibre NBA veteran PG (Jennings).

Eh, Jennings is coming off an achilles injury and has a history of being below average. I doubt he wold be a draw to Orlando.

Piston Pete · Post #227 » by **Piston Pete** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:51 pm

Still better than anything Boston could offer.

princeofpalace · Post #228 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 3:58 pm

Piston Pete wrote:Still better than anything Boston could offer.

Not even close. Orlando could get multiple first round picks for Harris which are worth a lot more than Jennings.

pollack419 · Post #229 » by **pollack419** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:02 pm

Free Agency, David West, Indiana Pacers
This rumor is part of a storyline: 5 more rumors
2 mins ago - via Twitter MikeAScotto
Tobias Harris on his way out?
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Michael Scotto: Sources: Tobias Harris would prefer not to return to the Orlando Magic and play for Scott Skiles, who previously coached him in Milwaukee.

Also Orlando extedned QO whihc I believe makes him RFA

Jennings (who I heard likes skiles) and a 2nd for Tobais at 13-14 mil

The Penguin · Post #230 » by **The Penguin** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:07 pm

Harris is getting the full max offer, stop throwing out "sign him to $12 or $13 mil" comments.

sc8581 · Post #231 » by **sc8581** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:15 pm

DetroitPistons wrote:
bjones521 wrote:
sc8581 wrote:Orlando seems to be just as far along as we are, probably even a little further they just lack a veteran or two.

Vucevic/Frye
Gordon/Nicholson
Harris/Mario/Harkless
Olidipo/Fournier
Payton

I might be missing somebody but that's a lot of very good young talent that is further along than ours.

Wow, actually looking at their roster I'd match if I were Orlando. They actually are further along than us. If SVG had that lineup last year instead of a horrible Jacque Vaughn I think they may have won more games than us. If your Scott Skiles I want to see what all these dudes healthy can do. Who's to say Orl Magic management don't think that Mario isn't ready to start just like we don't think Stanley is. Mario was only averaging 15min a game.

If SVG had that lineup last year he would've made some major trades because that team can't shoot

Vucevic, Harris, Frye and Fournier can all shoot and Mario might have been the best shooter in the draft.

Piston Pete · Post #232 » by **Piston Pete** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:17 pm

princeofpalace wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Still better than anything Boston could offer.

Not even close. Orlando could get multiple first round picks for Harris which are worth a lot more than Jennings.

Depends in hiw you look at it. Boston has had many 1st round picks in the past couple years....and they still have a hole at PG.....

1st rounders are a big mystery. Some work, others flop. Jennings is proven

princeofpalace · Post #233 » by **princeofpalace** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:18 pm

Piston Pete wrote:
princeofpalace wrote:
Piston Pete wrote:Still better than anything Boston could offer.

Not even close. Orlando could get multiple first round picks for Harris which are worth a lot more than Jennings.

Depends in hiw you look at it. Boston has had many 1st round picks in the past couple years....and they still have a hole at PG.....

1st rounders are a big mystery. Some work, others flop. Jennings is proven

Boston has Isiah Thomas at PG, they don't have a hole at all. IT is on the same caliber as Reggie Jackson.

sc8581 · Post #234 » by **sc8581** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:20 pm

pollack419 wrote:Free Agency, David West, Indiana Pacers
This rumor is part of a storyline: 5 more rumors
2 mins ago - via Twitter MikeAScotto
Tobias Harris on his way out?
wpid-i_da_91_53_456534990.jpg
Michael Scotto: Sources: Tobias Harris would prefer not to return to the Orlando Magic and play for Scott Skiles, who previously coached him in Milwaukee.

Also Orlando extedned QO whihc I believe makes him RFA

Jennings (who I heard likes skiles) and a 2nd for Tobais at 13-14 mil

Harris doesn't want to play for Skiles because he doesn't want to give effort on defense, red flag big time.

pollack419 · Post #235 » by **pollack419** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:56 pm

sc8581 wrote:
pollack419 wrote:Free Agency, David West, Indiana Pacers
This rumor is part of a storyline: 5 more rumors
2 mins ago - via Twitter MikeAScotto
Tobias Harris on his way out?
wpid-i_da_91_53_456534990.jpg
Michael Scotto: Sources: Tobias Harris would prefer not to return to the Orlando Magic and play for Scott Skiles, who previously coached him in Milwaukee.

Also Orlando extedned QO whihc I believe makes him RFA

Jennings (who I heard likes skiles) and a 2nd for Tobais at 13-14 mil

Harris doesn't want to play for Skiles because he doesn't want to give effort on defense, red flag big time.

He also was a rookie when with skiles

Kilo · Post #236 » by **Kilo** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:59 pm

Orlando could also use Harris to dump Channing Frye contract in the process. Frye and Harris are cousins, and in part I believe Frye was brought in to help Tobias' development.

TurboTitan · Post #237 » by **TurboTitan** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:25 pm

Haven't been on this site in ages, finally getting excited about basketball again, lets get this done!

sc8581 · Post #238 » by **sc8581** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:52 pm

Kilo wrote:Orlando could also use Harris to dump Channing Frye contract in the process. Frye and Harris are cousins, and in part I believe Frye was brought in to help Tobias' development.

Are you suggesting Frye be Drummonds backup next year? Actually, unless the rules have changed you can't include other players along with a player being signed & traded.

sfballa13 · Post #239 » by **sfballa13** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:53 pm

Kilo wrote:Orlando could also use Harris to dump Channing Frye contract in the process. Frye and Harris are cousins, and in part I believe Frye was brought in to help Tobias' development.

Id take on Frye since Ilyasova isn't fully guaranteed after this upcoming season.

But looks like Boston is gonna grab him probably could offer Sullinger and a few first rounders in a sign and trade. Why wouldn't Orlando take that?

ADflight1 · Post #240 » by **ADflight1** » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:08 pm

Harris just seems like a younger Josh Smith to me w/out the defense.

Not sure why people have been griping about Carroll/Green's ages. They aren't just going to lose their ability to shoot.. and then I see some worrying about either blocking Johnson? Is there a reason they couldn't come off the bench once Johnson is ready? Both are crystal clear fits & will come cheaper.

A 3&D vet with high level of playoff experience is exactly what we need.