Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[Flying Colors]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/616347005112061952[/tweet]

That bodes well for us.

How long have they been in there for?

at least an hour

[JTrain]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling-for-8th-seed team. Purgatory.

We took the risk to get out of your so called purgatory. Have to give props to our FO for even being in race at this point.

Depends on the risk-reward. Does Chandler give us a significant chance to land LMA? No one here knows. If it's still a long shot, then it wasn't worth the risk.

It's like saying, "have to give props to our FO for going after LeBron" last year while they potentially passed up other opportunities. No, I think that was a horrible move. The risk-reward was atrocious.

[Fo-Real]

I think Tucker will stay if we get LMA..... He is a recruiting tool for his old teammate

[SkinnyOMiller]

Does this work:

S+T Wright for Chandler.
S+T Cleveland, Miami, Miami, Phoenix 1sts and Goodwin for Aldridge.

Keep everyone and then Chandler, Aldridge, Knight are all able to go over cap.

That is way too much to give up for Aldridge. Portland doesn't have the leverage to demand that deal. I would offer Portland Cleveland's 1st next year and maybe the Suns 1st in 2017 or 2018, top 10 protected.

Portland can get something back for Aldridge or they can get nothing. I certainly wouldn't offer them Miami's unprotected pick in 2021.

[letsgosuns]

Yes. LMA could receive the true max, 5 years with 7.5% raise every year vs. 4 years with 4.5% raises every year.

The S&T may be attractive to him to:

1. Get some talent back to Portland
2. Get dollar bills

No that is against league rules now. He cannot sign for 5 years and get traded. They changed the rules in 2011. He only gets the max 5 year contract if he signs with Portland and stays there. If he is signed and traded, the max is four years.

Isn't that max regardless?

So basically there's no advantage to sign and trade except for us clearing cap room?

Yes. But the Suns do not have to deal with Portland. They can agree with Aldridge and wait to sign until they have shipped out the contracts of the Morris brothers and Tucker. Or they can trade the Morris brothers and Tucker to Portland. The Suns would be in the driver seat if Aldridge agrees to sign with the Suns. They would not have to succumb to giving up Bledsoe. The Suns would be in control.

[Mulhollanddrive]

Can both LMA and Chandler go over the cap if we acquire their bird rights?

Or did it change where a team over cap can't sign another (think I read that in the last CBA).

[Barkley6]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/616347005112061952[/tweet]

That bodes well for us.

How long have they been in there for?

at least an hour

2 hours based on Woj's initial tweet of when the meeting began.

Also, apparently Lakers pitch was too much about LA and outside stuff, LMA wanted to hear about what it would be like on the court. So, basically their whole "We're a big market blah blah blah" bs backfired. Serves them right,

[SkinnyOMiller]

With or without Aldridge, Chandler's addition is a big one. He is exactly what we needed : rebounding, intimidating presence, veteran leadership, strong defender in the post and he is respected by the officials.
Hornacek is happy now for sure.

This. I was pretty much in favor of tanking and opposed to guy's like Green and Carroll but Chandler is exactly what this team needs and will pump up the intensity on this roster. Even if they don't come out of this with LMA, I think this is a good signing considering the success of the Suns training staff. I could even see Chandler and Len out on the floor together at times.

[rsavaj]

Can both LMA and Chandler go over the cap if we acquire their bird rights?

Or did it change where a team over cap can't sign another (think I read that in the last CBA).

Way it would work would be renounce Wright/sign Chandler into the freed up cap space(or just sign/trade Wright for Chandler), then trade enough salary(sounds like 9 million) to Portland in a sign and trade so we can get LMA, then sign Knight using his bird rights to go way over the cap

[saintEscaton]

Still don't understand the reasoning behind the Chandler signing. A not so cheap recruting ploy?

[sunsbum]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 29s29 seconds ago
Suns GM Ryan McDonough and staff -- with Tyson Chandler -- still in meeting with Aldridge now in Los Angeles, sources tell Yahoo.

I've learned not to get excited about things reported on this board over the years. Time to throw away my Rumors Anonymous coin.

[rsavaj]

Best part of the offseason is learning that the "Because we're the Lakers, that's why" no longer works as a free agent pitch. I think all Suns fans can agree on that.

[bwgood77]

Still don't understand the reasoning behind the Chandler signing

Well, with Len so injury prone, it's good to have insurance and they wanted a vet. He's another nice presence in the middle.

[Stix]

Still don't understand the reasoning behind the Chandler signing

He is probably good friends with LMA. And is a veteran big that you can pair with him and has championship experience.

[WTFsunsFTW]

Still don't understand the reasoning behind the Chandler signing

He's got ties to LMA and is in the meeting with McD, that right there is a big enough reason.

[sunsfever68]

Best part of the offseason is learning that the "Because we're the Lakers, that's why" no longer works as a free agent pitch. I think all Suns fans can agree on that.

Yes.

LA you pay 13.3% state income tax.
Awful traffic
Dirty
No water
Broke state gov't
Fakest people in the world live there

[JTrain]

It's a little early to be so black and white on the deal. The fourth year could be a team option. There could be non-guaranteed money.

Neither of those factors changes my main point. Chandler alone keeps us in purgatory and the loss of Wright hurts us down the road. If we are set up to win now (adding LMA) fantastic. If not, I don't see anything good about it.

They saw a chance at getting the big fish, so they went for it. That's a good thing. Sucks if it doesn't work out, but I'm happy they tried.

Swear to god, feels like fans treat this FO with a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" mentality

It comes down to results. Everything can be spun positively or negatively at the time. I tried to spin the IT acquisition as a great move last year. It turned out to be pretty bad. No one knows what will happen, of course, but I just don't see much positive here unless the FO knows something we don't and thinks Chandler really gives us a great shot at LMA. If that's the case, bravo. If not, I think this is the wrong move. I could be wrong. Not trying to be negative just to be negative, just giving my opinion on this move from the info available to us.

[RaisingArizona]

My take: If Chandler gets us LMA, it's a brilliant move. If not, it's a terrible move. He will be 33 at the beginning of the season. Wright will be 28. Wright is already one of the most efficient players in the league. He could have been a huge asset for us in 2-3 years when we have the tools to win. Chandler will be declining significantly in 2-3 years.

Without any other additions, this looks like another battling-for-8th-seed team. Purgatory.

We took the risk to get out of your so called purgatory. Have to give props to our FO for even being in race at this point.

Depends on the risk-reward. Does Chandler give us a significant chance to land LMA? No one here knows. If it's still a long shot, then it wasn't worth the risk.

It's like saying, "have to give props to our FO for going after LeBron" last year while they potentially passed up other opportunities. No, I think that was a horrible move. The risk-reward was atrocious.

Going after the best players should be what a FO does. If they went for average guys, then the team would be average. You're saying it's only worth it if it pans out. Not all risks pay off but it only takes one to turn things around.

[Sunsdeuce]

Best part of the offseason is learning that the "Because we're the Lakers, that's why" no longer works as a free agent pitch. I think all Suns fans can agree on that.

And no player really wants to play with kobe. As soon as I saw kobe was in the meeting, I knew the lakers screwed up.

[saintEscaton]

Best part of the offseason is learning that the "Because we're the Lakers, that's why" no longer works as a free agent pitch. I think all Suns fans can agree on that.

And no player really wants to play with kobe. As soon as I saw kobe was in the meeting, I knew the lakers screwed up.

I hope Kobe prolongs his retirement and continues to delay the rebuild.