Is Splitter a good fit for us?

New_Hawks_Era · Post #21 » by **New_Hawks_Era** » Wed Jul 1, 2015 8:56 pm

Great fit, I actually was thinking when we were playing Cleveland how much of a help someone like a Tiago Splitter would be in that series. He's insurance if Millsap walks and if Millsap comes back he would be the 1st big off the bench to spell either Horford or Sap. He allows AL to play the 4 which is huge considering this is the 1ST time in his career we can actually really say that and be comfortable.

DirtybirdGA · Post #22 » by **DirtybirdGA** » Wed Jul 1, 2015 9:12 pm

Looks like the same as before, Al is only playing the 4 to spell the Millsap, and Smith before him. oh well.

gutobr · Post #23 » by **gutobr** » Wed Jul 1, 2015 9:33 pm

Rob Diaz wrote:
gutobr wrote:Splitter in the Spurs did not have the role that deserved to have, he is able to score more than he had been doing in SA. Playing in Atlanta will be better for him.

Pop was actually going to him in the post more often the past 2 years against mismatches. He's definitely capable of exploiting smaller players inside, he did it often with the Spurs, but the opportunities weren't there.

Yes, but in SA he was always playing carried by stars like Duncan, Parker and Ginobili. Now he will play with guys which are basically on same level of him, so I hope he will be more used offensively.

td00 · Post #24 » by **td00** » Wed Jul 1, 2015 11:10 pm

Would have been good to acquire him 2 years ago against Indy, but I guess better days are ahead.
Averaged 19mpg last year...........I see more of the same this year, so we finally get some legit depth in the post.

krikor · Post #25 » by **krikor** » Thu Jul 2, 2015 6:05 am

You really needed a big, you lost to the Cavs because of mainly rebounding and lack of size.Might hurt your spacing.

MaceCase · Post #26 » by **MaceCase** » Thu Jul 2, 2015 6:37 am

He's like a taller Scola with defense with how well he utilizes nifty layups instead of powering the ball down. Not concerned about him and spacing because he's a guy that is very capable of passing which means with all of the movement the Hawks run, any cutter or wing/big that's popping off a screen is a likely target. From what I've seen of him in the past he won't necessarily get the assist but he makes the right hockey pass the moment the D sags in a certain direction.

New_Hawks_Era · Post #27 » by **New_Hawks_Era** » Thu Jul 2, 2015 12:45 pm

krikor wrote:You really needed a big, you lost to the Cavs because of mainly rebounding and lack of size.Might hurt your spacing.

If it was any other big then you'd have a point but he's basically coming from the Senior Squad Hawks. I can't think of another team in the World where the transition would be easier.

atlantabbq99 · Post #28 » by **atlantabbq99** » Thu Jul 2, 2015 12:57 pm

Most reports are stating that no player will be lost by the Hawks in the trade. So its probably just one first round draft pick or a couple of second round draft picks. If the Spurs are really cap conscious for the next few years, it might just be a couple of 2nd round picks going to the Spurs. But in any case, its an +A for the Hawks in this trade.

hawkschop1 · Post #29 » by **hawkschop1** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 1:19 am

so happy to read everyone's positive reviews. this was an A+ deal for us. I can't wait to see whats next. so far so good!

I think we gotta give alan anderson or richard jefferson a look maybe luke babbitt. if we could trade a pick for quincy pondexter I would. again, I like luis scola to finish out the frontcourt rotation. way to go bud. lets go hawks!!

atlantabbq99 · Post #30 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 12:31 am

If Moose can keep knocking down those 3s, he can play a stretch 4 while Split plays the 5. It would be a great duo coming off the bench or on those nights when coach Budz sits all the starters the whole game.

The good thing about coach Budz's system is that he doesn't run anything through the post up or doesn't feature any plays of post players doing post moves, so Moose can stay on the perimeter while Split keeps passing and moving.

atlantabbq99 · Post #31 » by **atlantabbq99** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 12:35 am

I'll point out one annoying thing about Split that all Hawks fans should know about. Just like Marvin Williams, Split gets blocked more then he should by average NBA players, when he really shouldn't be blocked when he has a 9'2 reach. So don't be surprised if he gets blocked one or two more times than he should in a game.

Hawks champs · Post #32 » by **Hawks champs** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 1:29 am

atlantabbq99 wrote:I'll point out one annoying thing about Split that all Hawks fans should know about. Just like Marvin Williams, Split gets blocked more then he should by average NBA players, when he really shouldn't be blocked when he has a 9'2 reach. So don't be surprised if he gets blocked one or two more times than he should in a game.

Yea... I think he's been blocked on about 14% of his career fg attempts. Good news is that he rarely misses when he isn't blocked.
Just realized that he probably won't have to worry about getting blocked as much while he's with us, our spacing is even better than the Spurs.

td00 · Post #33 » by **td00** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 1:03 pm

We've needed ANY big since Dampier was taken off the scrap heap. I'll take the move and see what TS can do for us.
I would hate it if we gave up a 1st for him though; SAS needed to make the move more than we needed to make the move.

I hate we didn't consider West also; he took the CHAMPS discount that we would have never gotten from him. We've got to go all the way to get those kinds of deals. And when we win a championship, don't disband it like Cuban did the next offseason.

Based on the rumor that David Lee was bringing a #1 with him, I would have liked to see him in our rotation also. I know the Celtics didn't get that, but to me, they waited too long.

atlantabbq99 · Post #34 » by **atlantabbq99** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 1:24 pm

West would have taken away minutes from Muscala , which i don't want to happen.

Post #35 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 1:39 pm

td00 wrote:Based on the rumor that David Lee was bringing a #1 with him, I would have liked to see him in our rotation also. I know the Celtics didn't get that, but to me, they waited too long.

Yes!!!!

Similar to what the Braves have been doing this year under the guidance of John Hart, those are the types of savvy asset-acquiring moves I'd like to see us make. Bringing in David Lee on (essentially) a one year deal while also bringing in another first rounder would've allowed us to stay competitive and pick up a young prospect.

That SAC trade sending Nik Stauskas and future 1st round picks/swaps is another trade I wish we had gotten into. Picking up good prospects (Stauskas) and useful vets (Landry, Thompson) while also acquiring top flight assets and draft picks for the future is the kind of deal that could lead to a James Hardenesque type trade in the near future.

Post #36 » by **dms269** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 3:11 pm

I don't see how David Lee helps us in the least. You can only play so many pfs and with Splitter we get a guy who is a true 5 size wise. Lee is too small so we are left at either going extremely small with him or Millsap at the 5 or Lee only playing 15 minutes.

Post #37 » by **Hawk Eye** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 4:42 pm

We literally just got Splitter for nothing. So excited we finally have a true C.

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Post #38 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 5:01 pm

uga_dawgs24 wrote:I don't see how David Lee helps us in the least. You can only play so many pfs and with Splitter we get a guy who is a true 5 size wise. Lee is too small so we are left at either going extremely small with him or Millsap at the 5 or Lee only playing 15 minutes.

I am vehemently against paying Paul Millsap $18 million+ per year.

Acquiring David Lee instead of Millsap is what I have in mind.

D-Lee, Tiago & Horford is a solid veteran rotation for our frontcourt...and leaves us in play to re-sign Horford next summer while also being a major player (again) in Free Agency.

Post #39 » by **Jamaaliver** » Thu Aug 6, 2015 5:50 pm

A couple of stiffs over at Sports Illustrated listed our acquisition of Tiago as the best 'Under-the-Radar' move of the summer.

Rob Mahoney: Hawks trade for Tiago Splitter

...Atlanta managed to pick up the final two years of Tiago Splitter's contract (worth just over $17 million total) at no real cost via trade. The market price for a two-way center is generally far higher. Playing accessory to one of the summer's blockbuster signings had its perks. For only the inconvenience of committing their cap space early, the Hawks added a nice defender and pick-and-roll finisher to deepen an already effective frontcourt rotation.

Ben Golliver: Hawks trade for Tiago Splitter

...acquiring Splitter for a protected second-round pick looks like an excellent bargain and a strong use of cap space by the Hawks. Although Atlanta won 60 games and ranked in the top seven in both offensive and defensive efficiency in 2014-15, its rebounding was a persistent problem all year and its interior defense wasn't up to snuff in the Eastern Conference finals. Enter Splitter, 30, a proven rim-protector who ranked in the top 10 at his position in Defensive Real Plus-Minus in each of the last two seasons. A veteran of two trips to the Finals, the 6'11" Splitter also posted a 10.2 offensive rebound percentage last season, a mark that was significantly better than every Hawks player who logged at least 600 minutes.

Nice to see us get a little good press for what is probably the best Hawks trade since we picked up Korver for a trade exception.