Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion

[bwgood77]

Quick...didn't we turn down a trade with Tyson Chandler at one point because he had a bad toe or something? Am I mis-remembering?

No, that was OKC.

[bwgood77]

Wow got to work, opened up realGM and saw the this thread go from 60 something pages to 100 over night....

Someone want to give me an quick update?

Look at my update to Sunskerr from a few pages ago with the three tweets on it.

[SkinnyOMiller]

Wow got to work, opened up realGM and saw the this thread go from 60 something pages to 100 over night....

Someone want to give me an quick update?

We were LMA second choice after eventually signing with San Antonio.

Not confirmed, though, gaining traction.

Not gaining traction at all, a report from some random tool on Twitter is not traction.


What this Pick guy did is simple and transparent, he takes something expected, matter of factly claims that it will happen and when/if Aldridge signs with the Spurs, he'll make a big deal about reporting it first.

If Aldridge signs with the Suns he'll make some excuse about how LMA had a late change of heart...blah..blah


I see no reason why anyone should give that guy anymore credibility than the average poster on here.


Until Woj or Stein report it, I'll assume that LMA is in play.

[rsavaj]

Wow got to work, opened up realGM and saw the this thread go from 60 something pages to 100 over night....

Someone want to give me an quick update?

- We signed Tyson Chandler to strengthen our pitch to LMA.

- Sarver, Babby, McDonough, Knight, Bledsoe, Horny, Watson, and Chandler all attended the meeting with LMA

- They met for about 2 and a half hours, LMA was very impressed with our pitch.

- Now it looks like its between us and San Antonio to sign him.

Sounds like an expensive punt....

Definitely costly, but 13 mill in today's money = 8 mill with the new cap. Plus they're banking on him mentoring Len, adding some toughness to our team, being a leader in the lockerroom(AKA the "dear Morris twins, please STFU" guy), and just being a nice addition.

Interesting move. Not too thrilled if it doesn't land us LMA, but love that we tried. McDonough has some gargantuan balls.

[sunsfever68]

=Signed Tyson Chandler to 52/4. Immediately brought Chandler into our meeting with Aldridge alongside Babby/McDonough/Horny and Bledsoe/Knight/Earl Watson(mentor to LMA in PDX, now one of our assistant coaches)

=Lost Wright to Memphis

=Waiting to hear on LMA's decision which won't be announced today since he's still meeting the Knicks tmw. Stein and Berger say we'ved moved alongside SAS in contention to land him, but there's this unknown Euroleague reporter David Pick who just tweeted out that LMA is going to SAS, so nobody really knows what to do with that info

=If LMA agrees, we'd have to work a sign and trade with PDX to make salaries work, since we used all our cap space on Tyson Chandler

Can we not ship Tuck/Mook to Cle for Haywood expiring to shed contract in separate deal and sign Aldridge outright and go over the cap?

Cle needs wings who can shoot. We have alot of wings

Yeah I think that's an option. Don't know the specific cap numbers though so not sure how much we need to free up.

reputable source said 9M (one of AZ reporters)

tuck+Mook=10M. Haywood contract 10M. works perfectly. Cavs need wings.

[bwgood77]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/616377753797984256[/tweet]

Kennedy RT'ed

It doesn't matter. If none of the legit guys have said anything or RT'ed that guy he doesn't know ****.

[rsavaj]

So David Pick is Euro Woj:

@stevekylerNBA 6m6 minutes ago
Steve Kyler retweeted JJ13AZ
You need to do some research on who David Pick is - breaks virtually every International signing in basketball

Not an entirely baseless source, but I'd still wait to hear what Stein/Berger/Woj prime have to say

[Stix]

Aldridge is still in meetings, this guy is just trying to gain some followers on twitter.

[bwgood77]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/IAmDPick/status/616377753797984256[/tweet]

Kennedy RT'ed

So did Dave King.

He's just some random guy trying to get the scoop on a 50/50 decision (and he picked the favorite!). If LMA signs with the Spurs, he will claim to have reported it first. If not, he'll simply say he got inaccurate info and no one will care. Sad move on his part, I guarantee he has no source and LMA hasn't made up his mind yet.

He probably just deletes the tweets he gets wrong.

[Revived]

Apparently Pick isn't the only reporting it

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan

[lilfishi22]

Definitely costly, but 13 mill in today's money = 8 mill with the new cap. Plus they're banking on him mentoring Len, adding some toughness to our team, being a leader in the lockerroom(AKA the "dear Morris twins, please STFU" guy), and just being a nice addition.

Interesting move. Not too thrilled if it doesn't land us LMA, but love that we tried. McDonough has some gargantuan balls.

Well if there's one good thing to come out of this is that the rumors of a DeAndre Jordan/Tyson Chandler trade won't happen anymore so I'm hoping DJ walks and leaves the Clippers with nothing

[rsavaj]

Can we not ship Tuck/Mook to Cle for Haywood expiring to shed contract in separate deal and sign Aldridge outright and go over the cap?

Cle needs wings who can shoot. We have alot of wings

Yeah I think that's an option. Don't know the specific cap numbers though so not sure how much we need to free up.

reputable source said 9M (one of AZ reporters)

tuck+Mook=10M. Haywood contract 10M. works perfectly. Cavs need wings.

That was Dave King, bright side of the sun blogger. The reason it's 9 mill is because of some sort of exceptions we get when we're an "over the cap" team, which was why it made sense to sign and trade Wright for Chandler. Once Memphis signed Wright, I asked Dave if this changed that 9 mill number; he said he thinks we could still be an "over the cap" situation if we keep thornton and green's cap holds on the books.

It's all a little over my head, to be honest. Let's just wait and see how it shakes out.

[bwgood77]

That's your opinion, but it seems like mine is more in line with the people that matter.

What is that supposed to mean?

It means saying something that other people posted is a joke is ridiculous, especially when the team decides to do it. No matter if the team gets it right or wrong, they know more than us at the end of the day.......saying something along the lines of I don't agree with it or it is a bad idea is acceptable, but calling it a joke is a little more offensive. Basically you are calling someone else's OPINION a joke. Sometimes it maybe, but not in this case, so I just decided to put a mirror in your face.

I think his point is your earlier sentence regarding "people that matter". Everyone here matters equally.

[Stix]

Definitely costly, but 13 mill in today's money = 8 mill with the new cap. Plus they're banking on him mentoring Len, adding some toughness to our team, being a leader in the lockerroom(AKA the "dear Morris twins, please STFU" guy), and just being a nice addition.

Interesting move. Not too thrilled if it doesn't land us LMA, but love that we tried. McDonough has some gargantuan balls.

Well if there's one good thing to come out of this is that the rumors of a DeAndre Jordan/Tyson Chandler trade won't happen anymore so I'm hoping DJ walks and leaves the Clippers with nothing

[Revived]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/nbafreeagency/status/616378572614139904[/tweet]

[lilfishi22]

Chandler brings two things regardless of LMA, 1. leadership 2. rebounding averaged almost twice as many rebounds per game as our highest per guy.

I get that. But is a 33 year old C the kind of player we want to be investing long term in right now?

Can't fault McD though if this is his attempt at swinging for the fences (LMA)

[letsgosuns]

With or without LeMarcus Aldridge, there is no way in hell the Suns are a worse team today with Tyson Chandler than they were yesterday without him. Suns biggest problem was that they were horrible inside and had no resistance other than Len. The addition of Chandler changes that.

True, they are no worse a team, but how much better does a 32 year old Chandler really make them? Enough to justify giving him 52 million over 4 years?

We are paying a 32 year old, with a history of injury problems, 52 million dollars. He averaged 11 and 10 last year. It is not unreasonable to think that Alex Len couldn't average 11 and 10 next year. What Tyson Chandler brings to the actual basketball court at this point in his career, is not far off from what Len can give us, and Len is 21 and on a rookie contract. He does provide a veteran presence and gives us depth at the 5, but again, is that really worth 52 million dollars?

If he can lead the defense and be a game changer, then yes, it is worth it. When the cap goes up to 90 plus million dollars next offseason, Bledsoe, Knight, and Chandler will only combine for about 40 million dollars. That is not even half the cap. Plus top quality centers like Chandler always get paid a lot. I am not worried about his age either. The Suns got Nash and Hill to play until they were almost 40 so I am not worried about Chandler's age. He is only 32. He will be 36 when his contract expires. The Suns instantaneously just made the team far more respectable.

[SkinnyOMiller]

Apparently Pick isn't the only reporting it

https://twitter.com/Matthew_Tynan

Someone else with absolutely no credibility. Twitter might be one of the worst things to happen to sports reporting. Aldridge still likely goes to the Spurs but these guys and their non existent sources are throwing spaghetti at the wall.

[saintEscaton]

What is that supposed to mean?

It means saying something that other people posted is a joke is ridiculous, especially when the team decides to do it. No matter if the team gets it right or wrong, they know more than us at the end of the day.......saying something along the lines of I don't agree with it or it is a bad idea is acceptable, but calling it a joke is a little more offensive. Basically you are calling someone else's OPINION a joke. Sometimes it maybe, but not in this case, so I just decided to put a mirror in your face.

I think his point is your earlier sentence regarding "people that matter". Everyone here matters equally.

I've seen you attack posters directly. Apologize for calling the idea a "joke" but your reasoning is infallible

[sunsfever68]

Yeah I think that's an option. Don't know the specific cap numbers though so not sure how much we need to free up.

reputable source said 9M (one of AZ reporters)

tuck+Mook=10M. Haywood contract 10M. works perfectly. Cavs need wings.

That was Dave King, bright side of the sun blogger. The reason it's 9 mill is because of some sort of exceptions we get when we're an "over the cap" team, which was why it made sense to sign and trade Wright for Chandler. Once Memphis signed Wright, I asked Dave if this changed that 9 mill number; he said he thinks we could still be an "over the cap" situation if we keep thornton and green's cap holds on the books.

It's all a little over my head, to be honest. Let's just wait and see how it shakes out.

ah that becomes much harder.

Sounds like we'll have to give Portland Markieff or something. If it takes getting rid of markieff to get Aldridge I'll do it.