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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2181 » by Cutter » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:00 am

Unless you have a superstar, plus an all star sidekick, you really need a deep bench to have a chance at the finals. Trading both twins decimates our bench. I my mind, I really want to keep Keef and have him come off the bench for 25 mpg. He is key to us having a productive bench to either keep or get the lead when starters are resting.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2182 » by JTrain » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:01 am

SF88 wrote:Anyone else get their hopes up for LMA now?

I swore after last year's LeBron thing that I won't get my hopes up again for the Suns signing a superstar and I broke that promise.


I did, but when I calm down I think it's pretty likely someone is getting played. Maybe it's a courtesy thing or a favor from an agent or something... I don't know. Just seems like he's going to the Spurs but sent out the message that the Suns were really close to help our reputation. I give us 10% at this point.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2183 » by letsgosuns » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:02 am

SF88 wrote:Spurs talk is convinced that LMA's agent is leaking this to make the Suns look good in an effort to thank the Suns for Brandon Knight's contract since Knight and LMA both have the same agent and that LMA himself doesn't actually have any interest in the Suns.

Similar to last year with Rich Paul and LeBron/Bledsoe?


I find that ridiculous. Not once did Woj, Stein, or David Aldridge ever come out last year and say the Suns were serious contenders for Lebron. The whole time the only person that said the Suns were actually in on Lebron was Gambo. This is multiple updates from Woj, Stein, and Aldridge that the Suns are serious contenders for him and closed the gap. Last year Lebron never even met with the Suns. All the Suns did was meet with his agent like a few other teams did. The Suns just had a two hour or longer meeting with Aldridge. They brought an entire entourage of people. This is nothing like last year. This is for real. It could actually happen.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2184 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:03 am

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Scutt wrote:Only the Suns would give a 4 year, 52 million dollar contract to a 32 year old, who plays the same position as the the their only good young prospect, Alex Len. I would much rather had Wright back for nearly a third of the cost. He is 5 years younger, and plays both power forward and center, thus not taking away Lens minutes.

You do not spend 52 million on Chandler, just on the off chance it may help you land Aldridge. They are not going to pay Chandler 13 million a year to come off the bench, or play limited minutes as a starter. The way I see it, Alex Lens development is going to be hindered by this move, unless they plan on playing him as a power forward. Classic Suns move, ignoring the future to try and be relevant now.


Do people pay you trolls to come on this site and trash the Suns every move?

I just don't see how such bitter people end up on a fan site.


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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2185 » by saintEscaton » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:05 am

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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2186 » by letsgosuns » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:06 am

Cutter wrote:Unless you have a superstar, plus an all star sidekick, you really need a deep bench to have a chance at the finals. Trading both twins decimates our bench. I my mind, I really want to keep Keef and have him come off the bench for 25 mpg. He is key to us having a productive bench to either keep or get the lead when starters are resting.


What if the Suns can trade the Morris brothers and Tucker and sign Amare and Ish Smith. With Warren starting, the bench would be Smith, Goodwin, Booker, Granger, Amare, Len, and that new stretch four Jon Leuer. Looks pretty good to me.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2187 » by rsavaj » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:06 am

Could we get a new thread going? Might make it easier for people to keep up
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2188 » by BobbieL » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:06 am

JTrain wrote:
SF88 wrote:Anyone else get their hopes up for LMA now?

I swore after last year's LeBron thing that I won't get my hopes up again for the Suns signing a superstar and I broke that promise.


I did, but when I calm down I think it's pretty likely someone is getting played. Maybe it's a courtesy thing or a favor from an agent or something... I don't know. Just seems like he's going to the Spurs but sent out the message that the Suns were really close to help our reputation. I give us 10% at this point.


I still think the guyis going to the Spurs but the Suns have some good attributes to think about. Tyson Chandler was a nice get for this team. Much better for the team than Brandon Wright. Granted, costs a helluva lot more too!

I just know if LMA signs - the Morris twins and Tucker are gone. Tucker was not at the meeting today. The Suns will need to clear about 18-20m: Morris + Morris + Tucker + Bullock or Goodwin is voila - $19m or so. Plus draft picks.

Suns do have the TPE to get a shooter though - that's a good thing to have. They might need it
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2189 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:07 am

SF88 wrote:Spurs talk is convinced that LMA's agent is leaking this to make the Suns look good in an effort to thank the Suns for Brandon Knight's contract since Knight and LMA both have the same agent and that LMA himself doesn't actually have any interest in the Suns.

Similar to last year with Rich Paul and LeBron/Bledsoe?


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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2190 » by Kerrsed » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:07 am

letsgosuns wrote:
SF88 wrote:Spurs talk is convinced that LMA's agent is leaking this to make the Suns look good in an effort to thank the Suns for Brandon Knight's contract since Knight and LMA both have the same agent and that LMA himself doesn't actually have any interest in the Suns.

Similar to last year with Rich Paul and LeBron/Bledsoe?


I find that ridiculous. Not once did Woj, Stein, or David Aldridge ever come out last year and say the Suns were serious contenders for Lebron. The whole time the only person that said the Suns were actually in on Lebron was Gambo. This is multiple updates from Woj, Stein, and Aldridge that the Suns are serious contenders for him and closed the gap. Last year Lebron never even met with the Suns. All the Suns did was meet with his agent like a few other teams did. The Suns just had a two hour or longer meeting with Aldridge. They brought an entire entourage of people. This is nothing like last year. This is for real. It could actually happen.


Exactly. No one on RealGM besides us Suns fans even knew we were on Lebrons list and talking with them.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2191 » by BobbieL » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:08 am

letsgosuns wrote:
Cutter wrote:Unless you have a superstar, plus an all star sidekick, you really need a deep bench to have a chance at the finals. Trading both twins decimates our bench. I my mind, I really want to keep Keef and have him come off the bench for 25 mpg. He is key to us having a productive bench to either keep or get the lead when starters are resting.


What if the Suns can trade the Morris brothers and Tucker and sign Amare and Ish Smith. With Warren starting, the bench would be Smith, Goodwin, Booker, Granger, Amare, Len, and that new stretch four Jon Leuer. Looks pretty good to me.


Pretty sure if the Suns sing LMA - the Morris brothers, Tucker and Goodwin or Bullock are gone

You sign Ish Smith
Maybe Amare or a guy like Maurice Williams (instant offense for some games) for the bench

Your bench is: Chandler, Granger, Goodwin/Bullock, Leuer, Booker, maybe Patric Young (I think if the Morri and Tucker are traded, he makes the roster) , Ish and another guard. That's not bad. MOre clearly defined roles that's for sure
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2192 » by RaisingArizona » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:08 am

saintEscaton wrote:God I forgot how much I loathed Spurs fans. As much as I respect that organization and players other than Horry, Bowen, The Flopper


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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2193 » by Moochthemonkey » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:09 am

Cutter wrote:Unless you have a superstar, plus an all star sidekick, you really need a deep bench to have a chance at the finals. Trading both twins decimates our bench. I my mind, I really want to keep Keef and have him come off the bench for 25 mpg. He is key to us having a productive bench to either keep or get the lead when starters are resting.


Not completely, I think Warren is of equal or better value currently than Marcus Morris at the 3 spot, as is G. Green if resigned and possibly if Granger's career can be somewhat revitalized to his 2013 form, as the training staff more or less did with Michael Redd. Losing Markieff would be a hit but there's still a chance to sign someone like Amare or have Leur step up, not too mention Tucker can fare well in the backup 4 spot.
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Re: Offseason Trade and Free Agency Discussion 

Post#2194 » by bwgood77 » Thu Jul 2, 2015 1:09 am

letsgosuns wrote:
Cutter wrote:Unless you have a superstar, plus an all star sidekick, you really need a deep bench to have a chance at the finals. Trading both twins decimates our bench. I my mind, I really want to keep Keef and have him come off the bench for 25 mpg. He is key to us having a productive bench to either keep or get the lead when starters are resting.


What if the Suns can trade the Morris brothers and Tucker and sign Amare and Ish Smith. With Warren starting, the bench would be Smith, Goodwin, Booker, Granger, Amare, Len, and that new stretch four Jon Leuer. Looks pretty good to me.


I wonder if Chandler and Amare had a good relationship in NY.
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