Suns Offseason Thread 2: The Hunt for a Blazer Continues!

TeamTragic · Post #981 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:04 am

Nando88 wrote:Can we start a trend on twitter? #LOLKINGS it's hilarious at this point lol. Wes Mathews turned huge money from them to take less with the mavs. They sold picks and stauskas for nothing lol

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No surprise that he chose the Mavs. At this point I just feel sorry for the Kings :noway:

AtheJ415 · Post #982 » by **AtheJ415** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:05 am

NavLDO wrote:
carey wrote:
Safety Pickle wrote:Under 30: Millsapp (30), Green, Griffin, Monroe, Randle/Parker/Noel, Davis, Ibaka, Harris, Galo, Horford

That's not even looking at rookies

Galo and Harris are not PFs. Monroe is played at C because he's too slow to guard PFs. I would only agree with Milsap, Green, Griffin, Davis, Horford and Ibaka.

Randle/Parker/Noel? Those guys are not better than Markieff right now. Could they be? Sure, they more than likely will be. RIght now though? Randle and Parker are coming off major injuries. Noel still doesn't have an offensive game to speak of. I kind of feel like you're either trolling the guy a bit or you just hate Markieff that much.

Just because he didn't play there primarily, doesn't mean he can't or hasn't--he did a year or two ago, right? Even when coming out, he was considered a tweener.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tobias-Harris-5740/

Here are some quotes/URLs that say otherwise:

31 JAN 2015-- "Magic small forward Tobias Harris is in the starting lineup for Saturday's game against the Mavericks, OrlandoMagic.com reports.

Harris, who will start at power forward Saturday, injured his quad Thursday, but an earlier report Saturday indicated he would be available to face the Mavericks. He has averaged 17.1 points and 6.6 rebounds in 42 games. "

4 OCT 2014 -- http://fansided.com/2014/10/04/orlando-magic-likely-start-tobias-harris-power-forward/

5 SEP 2013 -- http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1760206-why-tobias-harris-is-the-key-to-orlando-magics-entire-roster-and-future

The guy is 6'8" 235lbs, and while a bit on the small side for a PF, many have succeeded at that height/weight or shorter/leaner. His wingspan is equal to Kieff's, and only 2" shy on standing reach, yet his per36 numbers from last season were very similar to Kieff's in rebounding, yet Harris was a better and more prolific 3PT shooter, less TOs, less PFs, and same number of blocks.

I'd be perfectly fine with trotting Harris out there at PF--he knows how to play the position, and has done so in the NBA. Is SF probably a better fit for him? Yeah, but Kieff's no C, yet he played there quite a bit.

Okay, and I agree they particularly can in some systems, but you can't operate that way with player rankings imo. By that logic Lebron is the best PG, SG, SF, and PF in the game because he CAN play all those positions. Then you end up with more than 30 starters at a position in the rankings because many are being double-counted.

Fo-Real · Post #983 » by **Fo-Real** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:12 am

lost in all of this, is the seemingly vote of confidence for Archie Goodwin.......held onto him.

Flying Colors · Post #984 » by **Flying Colors** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:13 am

The kings man, i don't even know what to say. I feel so much pity for them

NavLDO · Post #985 » by **NavLDO** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:14 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
NavLDO wrote:
carey wrote:
Galo and Harris are not PFs. Monroe is played at C because he's too slow to guard PFs. I would only agree with Milsap, Green, Griffin, Davis, Horford and Ibaka.

Randle/Parker/Noel? Those guys are not better than Markieff right now. Could they be? Sure, they more than likely will be. RIght now though? Randle and Parker are coming off major injuries. Noel still doesn't have an offensive game to speak of. I kind of feel like you're either trolling the guy a bit or you just hate Markieff that much.

Just because he didn't play there primarily, doesn't mean he can't or hasn't--he did a year or two ago, right? Even when coming out, he was considered a tweener.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tobias-Harris-5740/

Here are some quotes/URLs that say otherwise:

31 JAN 2015-- "Magic small forward Tobias Harris is in the starting lineup for Saturday's game against the Mavericks, OrlandoMagic.com reports.

Harris, who will start at power forward Saturday, injured his quad Thursday, but an earlier report Saturday indicated he would be available to face the Mavericks. He has averaged 17.1 points and 6.6 rebounds in 42 games. "

4 OCT 2014 -- http://fansided.com/2014/10/04/orlando-magic-likely-start-tobias-harris-power-forward/

5 SEP 2013 -- http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1760206-why-tobias-harris-is-the-key-to-orlando-magics-entire-roster-and-future

The guy is 6'8" 235lbs, and while a bit on the small side for a PF, many have succeeded at that height/weight or shorter/leaner. His wingspan is equal to Kieff's, and only 2" shy on standing reach, yet his per36 numbers from last season were very similar to Kieff's in rebounding, yet Harris was a better and more prolific 3PT shooter, less TOs, less PFs, and same number of blocks.

I'd be perfectly fine with trotting Harris out there at PF--he knows how to play the position, and has done so in the NBA. Is SF probably a better fit for him? Yeah, but Kieff's no C, yet he played there quite a bit.

Okay, and I agree they particularly can in some systems, but you can't operate that way with player rankings imo. By that logic Lebron is the best PG, SG, SF, and PF in the game because he CAN play all those positions. Then you end up with more than 30 starters at a position in the rankings because many are being double-counted.

I'm not necessarily pointing this out in response to the 'rankings' piece of the conversation, I'm just pointing out that Harris could play the 4 in our system, and right now, I'd probably take him over Kieff due to potential, and character. I think Kieff's 'topped off' in that regard, IMO, but no, right now, Kieff has shown to be the better PF at this point.

RaisingArizona · Post #986 » by **RaisingArizona** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:20 am

bwgood77 wrote:Can any twitter expert tell me how other people see my tweets to Aldridge if they are not following me? If I click on his profile and tweets or tweets and replies I see nothing. The last post I see is about Game of Thrones.

Heck, maybe I shouldcompare him to Game of Thrones and say his situation is like Daenyrs Targaryen taking over the kingdom from the long time rulers...though I guess in that case the dragon would have helped.

What's your twitter handle? :love:

TeamTragic · Post #987 » by **TeamTragic** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:22 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/616838340499931136[/tweet]

Flying Colors · Post #988 » by **Flying Colors** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:24 am

GoranTragic wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/616838340499931136[/tweet]

Well, if things don't go our way, at least we can say we put up a hell of a fight

LukasBMW · Post #989 » by **LukasBMW** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:28 am

Fo-Real wrote:lost in all of this, is the seemingly vote of confidence for Archie Goodwin.......held onto him.

Yup! Had a chance to dump him and we didn't. Interesting.

dbdynsty25 · Post #990 » by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:30 am

To me, the longer this drags on, the better our shot. The seemingly open and shut case w/ him going to the better organization in San Antonio, clearly isn't that open and shut. Sure, SA is still the favorite, but at least we have a punchers chance.

sunsbum · Post #991 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:30 am

Mavs trying to pull a tyson chandler with the matthews signing

NTB · Post #992 » by **NTB** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:31 am

sunsbum wrote:Mavs trying to pull a tyson chandler with the matthews signing

Isn't Chandler our player now?

Stix · Post #993 » by **Stix** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:31 am

sunsbum wrote:Mavs trying to pull a tyson chandler with the matthews signing

I dunno man, Mathews is a little small to the play C don't you think? :wink:

sunsbum · Post #994 » by **sunsbum** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:33 am

Mathews was super tight with LA on the blazers, like BFF.

Post #995 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:35 am

ginobiliflops wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:Can any twitter expert tell me how other people see my tweets to Aldridge if they are not following me? If I click on his profile and tweets or tweets and replies I see nothing. The last post I see is about Game of Thrones.

Heck, maybe I shouldcompare him to Game of Thrones and say his situation is like Daenyrs Targaryen taking over the kingdom from the long time rulers...though I guess in that case the dragon would have helped.

What's your twitter handle?

Here you go https://twitter.com/bwgood77/status/616838105589379072

bigfoot · Post #996 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:38 am

LukasBMW wrote:
Fo-Real wrote:lost in all of this, is the seemingly vote of confidence for Archie Goodwin.......held onto him.

Yup! Had a chance to dump him and we didn't. Interesting.

Really only dropped Marcus Morris, Danny Granger, and Reggie Bullock. Morris and Granger were SF ... Bullock at 6'7" is listed as a SG but could pass for a SF. Archie is backup for Bledsoe and Knight until Booker comes along.

Jdiddy701 · Post #997 » by **Jdiddy701** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:41 am

If LMA chooses Phoenix, two teams go down in the West Standings.. Spurs and Portland. Can't explain how big this signing would be. PJ has again posted another picture on his Instragram account with him and Aldridge in it. I wonder if PJ has even contacted him about coming to Phoenix. You would think so.

Hope Marcus Morris does well in Detroit.

Sunsdeuce · Post #998 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:41 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/keefmorris/status/616698278789263361[/tweet]

What the hell does this mean?

If he is implying the Suns did his brother wrong, he seriously needs to look in the mirror. The Morris twins have been such a pain in the a$$.

Post #999 » by **ATTL** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:41 am

Flying Colors wrote:The kings man, i don't even know what to say. I feel so much pity for them

I feel bad for their fans. They've been bad twice as long as us and only had one good run the past twenty years. Kj kept the team in sacto only to be mismanaged into the dirt. The Maloofs weren't as bad as this.

bigfoot · Post #1000 » by **bigfoot** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:43 am

Jdiddy701 wrote:
Sunsdeuce wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/keefmorris/status/616698278789263361[/tweet]

What the hell does this mean?

If he is implying the Suns did his brother wrong, he seriously needs to look in the mirror. The Morris twins have been such a pain in the a$$.

Emotions running high.. I am sure Keef understands.

I'm sure Kief and Marcus are looking for something to punch