The Tobias Harris Situation

Post #2481 » by **UCFJayBird** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 5:44 pm

buriat wrote:We now can add locker room cancer and attitude to Tobias's many flaws. It 's funny but I had the impression from those that have been around him that he was a good guy. He does want to win and has high expectations for himself and others. I had thought that was something you wanted on your team. Maybe he will go to Europe since he apparently has so little value to many.

I don't know what he will get paid but trying to make as much as you can even if you end up with less doesn't make someone a loser. It happens all the time in every field. Nobody will give you more than you ask for.

WTF are you talking about? Where is this nonsense coming from?

seeingstars · Post #2482 » by **seeingstars** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 6:38 pm

UCFJayBird wrote:
buriat wrote:We now can add locker room cancer and attitude to Tobias's many flaws. It 's funny but I had the impression from those that have been around him that he was a good guy. He does want to win and has high expectations for himself and others. I had thought that was something you wanted on your team. Maybe he will go to Europe since he apparently has so little value to many.

I don't know what he will get paid but trying to make as much as you can even if you end up with less doesn't make someone a loser. It happens all the time in every field. Nobody will give you more than you ask for.

WTF are you talking about? Where is this nonsense coming from?

?? Did you guys not see the inside the Magic where Tobias and Channing answered questions and played silly games? Tobias blew a lot of really easy answers and albeit I'm sure he's a bright basketball mind beyond that I don't see him as being offensive. If anything he's the idiot that everyone kind of feels sorry for so no one takes anything too personal. Dude can play, hes just no criminal mastermind or "cancer".

Magic#1 · Post #2483 » by **Magic#1** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 6:41 pm

Someone just offer this guy a contract so we can match it before he takes the QO.

buriat · Post #2484 » by **buriat** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 6:50 pm

There was a tweet response to Zach's Lowe ' tweet above that was very critical of Tobias 's attitude and influence in locker room. It is no longer there. I was being sarcastic.

Post #2485 » by **Def Swami** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 6:51 pm

buriat wrote:There was a tweet response to Zach's Lowe ' tweet above that was very critical of Tobias 's attitude and influence in locker room. It is no longer there. I was being sarcastic.

Was from Alex Kennedy. Saw it too.

Post #2486 » by **Devin 1L** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 6:55 pm

Def Swami wrote:
buriat wrote:There was a tweet response to Zach's Lowe ' tweet above that was very critical of Tobias 's attitude and influence in locker room. It is no longer there. I was being sarcastic.

Was from Alex Kennedy. Saw it too.

"@ZachLowe_NBA I think it has more to do with his attitude, interest in his own stats, lack of defensive effort, locker room presence, etc."
— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) July 3, 2015

drsd · Post #2487 » by **drsd** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:01 pm

One sees this:

Tobias would love to stay in Orlando. Loves the team and the situation.

And you conclude.

buriat wrote:We now can add locker room cancer and attitude to Tobias's many flaws.

Odd.

..

MellowRose · Post #2488 » by **MellowRose** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:03 pm

Kyler is so **** annoying.

swarlesbarkley · Post #2489 » by **swarlesbarkley** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:05 pm

Anyone think that maybe Skiles can actually coach up Tobias on defensive now that he's worked his way as a solid starter? I know there were reports (some probably overblown) of Skiles and Tobias not getting along in MKE because of defense, but if we think Skiles can improve Vooch's defense, why wouldn't he be able to improve Tobias's defense as well? Tobias is a great rebounder so he can definitely time his jumps and get up higher than the opponent - it's not out of the realm of possibility that he can be coached into some defense and shot-blocking.

TreasureCoast · Post #2490 » by **TreasureCoast** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:12 pm

MellowRose wrote:Kyler is so **** annoying.

this one's not bad...

https://twitter.com/StevenKyler

Driguez · Post #2491 » by **Driguez** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:12 pm

MellowRose wrote:Kyler is so **** annoying.

I don't understand why people bother. I stopped following this dude a year ago, spews a whole bunch of nothing.

MrTwister · Post #2492 » by **MrTwister** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:18 pm

TreasureCoast wrote:
MellowRose wrote:Kyler is so **** annoying.

this one's not bad...

https://twitter.com/StevenKyler

List of guys he follows includes Cpt Obvious, Moe Harkless and Woj :lol:

Briliant.

yoyojw17 · Post #2493 » by **yoyojw17** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:42 pm

I know that the Jazz were looking for a stretch 4 for Favors.... Do you'll think they might consider tobias harris as a possible filler next to Gobert? Sign and Trade of Harris for favors maybe.

Don't get me wrong I like Harris.... and to a degree I like his potential still but does he truly fill a role for our team.... more than he makes another set of questions of where does he fit on the team....

Payton/FA/Harvey
Oladipo/Fournier/Harvey
Hezonja/Gordon/Harkless
Favors/Gordon/Oquinn
Vucevic/Dedmon

(assuming improvements amongst all of our players Elfrid (finishing at the rim...midrange game... God willing long distance).. Oladipo (finishing at the rim and shot selection) ... Gordon (all around game)) ... this is a very balanced and well constructed team.

tiderulz · Post #2494 » by **tiderulz** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 7:51 pm

yoyojw17 wrote:I know that the Jazz were looking for a stretch 4 for Favors.... Do you'll think they might consider tobias harris as a possible filler next to Gobert? Sign and Trade of Harris for favors maybe.

Don't get me wrong I like Harris.... and to a degree I like his potential still but does he truly fill a role for our team.... more than he makes another set of questions of where does he fit on the team....

Payton/FA/Harvey
Oladipo/Fournier/Harvey
Hezonja/Gordon/Harkless
Favors/Gordon/Oquinn
Vucevic/Dedmon

(assuming improvements amongst all of our players Elfrid (finishing at the rim...midrange game... God willing long distance).. Oladipo (finishing at the rim and shot selection) ... Gordon (all around game)) ... this is a very balanced and well constructed team.

Utah has one of the best front court defenses in the league, you would need more than Harris to convince them to break that up.

rcklsscognition · Post #2495 » by **rcklsscognition** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 8:01 pm

Devin 1L wrote:
Def Swami wrote:
buriat wrote:There was a tweet response to Zach's Lowe ' tweet above that was very critical of Tobias 's attitude and influence in locker room. It is no longer there. I was being sarcastic.

Was from Alex Kennedy. Saw it too.

"@ZachLowe_NBA I think it has more to do with his attitude, interest in his own stats, lack of defensive effort, locker room presence, etc."
— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) July 3, 2015

Yeah damn, I posted that and it disappeared, I figured he deleted it, it was bad. Alex is in the locker room every night, gotta give him that much, and he has absolutely nothing to gain from saying bad things about Tobias.

swarlesbarkley · Post #2496 » by **swarlesbarkley** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 8:02 pm

tiderulz wrote:
yoyojw17 wrote:I know that the Jazz were looking for a stretch 4 for Favors.... Do you'll think they might consider tobias harris as a possible filler next to Gobert? Sign and Trade of Harris for favors maybe.

Don't get me wrong I like Harris.... and to a degree I like his potential still but does he truly fill a role for our team.... more than he makes another set of questions of where does he fit on the team....

Payton/FA/Harvey
Oladipo/Fournier/Harvey
Hezonja/Gordon/Harkless
Favors/Gordon/Oquinn
Vucevic/Dedmon

(assuming improvements amongst all of our players Elfrid (finishing at the rim...midrange game... God willing long distance).. Oladipo (finishing at the rim and shot selection) ... Gordon (all around game)) ... this is a very balanced and well constructed team.

Utah has one of the best front court defenses in the league, you would need more than Harris to convince them to break that up.

Toss in O'Quinn as a serviceable back-up center (they currently don't have one) and maybe a draft pick?

MellowRose · Post #2497 » by **MellowRose** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 8:37 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
Devin 1L wrote:
Def Swami wrote:Was from Alex Kennedy. Saw it too.

"@ZachLowe_NBA I think it has more to do with his attitude, interest in his own stats, lack of defensive effort, locker room presence, etc."
— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) July 3, 2015

Yeah damn, I posted that and it disappeared, I figured he deleted it, it was bad. Alex is in the locker room every night, gotta give him that much, and he has absolutely nothing to gain from saying bad things about Tobias.

So there's some credibility to what he's saying?

OrlandO · Post #2498 » by **OrlandO** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 9:46 pm

rcklsscognition wrote:
Devin 1L wrote:
Def Swami wrote:Was from Alex Kennedy. Saw it too.

"@ZachLowe_NBA I think it has more to do with his attitude, interest in his own stats, lack of defensive effort, locker room presence, etc."
— Alex Kennedy (@AlexKennedyNBA) July 3, 2015

Yeah damn, I posted that and it disappeared, I figured he deleted it, it was bad. Alex is in the locker room every night, gotta give him that much, and he has absolutely nothing to gain from saying bad things about Tobias.

Kyler probably made him delete it. God forbid Kennedy speaks his mind instead of just sucking up to players all the time. Or maybe Kennedy thought he responded to Lowe in a DM haha.

EdgeOf · Post #2499 » by **EdgeOf** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 11:21 pm

magician4ever wrote: how about Harris and our Lakers pick for Calderon and Porzingis?

Deal.

NEM · Post #2500 » by **NEM** » Fri Jul 3, 2015 11:51 pm

EdgeOf wrote:
magician4ever wrote: how about Harris and our Lakers pick for Calderon and Porzingis?

Deal.

No