Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs

YouTube · Post #1 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:43 pm

Continued from: viewtopic.php?p=44215510#p44215510m

Plan B?

Didn't someone post in the last thread that LeBron was plan B?

In Len We Trust · Post #2 » by **In Len We Trust** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:46 pm

Life sucks

Nando88 · Post #3 » by **Nando88** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:46 pm

Watch outta nowhere mcD signs gasol to come play Pf next to chandler. Dude works in the shadows .

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jcsunsfan · Post #4 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:48 pm

Options: Free agent signing, trade.

Bargnani would provide a Channing Frye type presence and he would be cheap.
Trade for David Lee and Kevon Looney (Tucker?)
Trade for Anthony Bennett (Cleveland pick?) He is going nowhere on that Minny roster. Maybe there is some potential there. His body hasn't been right and we have the training staff for that.

I am just throwing ideas out there.

Nando88 · Post #5 » by **Nando88** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:49 pm

We can absorb Channing to come back... Just saying

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AtheJ415 · Post #6 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:49 pm

Would Denver trade us Galinari for a future first?

JTrain · Post #7 » by **JTrain** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:50 pm

letsgosuns wrote:I understand exactly what you are saying. Here is my bottom line with him. Forget all that off the court garbage, the immaturity, the arguing with refs. I just do not think he is that good. At best, and I mean truly at best, a backup power forward. The Suns are going to go nowhere with him in the 3-4 years anyway if he is the starter.

Then I factor in all the other stuff besides his actual game and I say to myself, why would I want this guy on the team any longer. They do not win with him anyway. He does nothing but cause problems and aggravation for the organization. If what he said about the fans was not a big deal, then why was Robert Sarver a guest on Gambo's show the day after it happened at exactly 2 p.m., trying to play down what he said. Because it was a huge deal what he said. How often does an owner of a basketball team take the initiative to call in themselves to a radio show unless something major has happened.

I have talked to quite a few people about this (not on this message board) and they all want him off the team. Someone I know actually said to me, when has the Suns organization ever had players like the Morris brothers in franchise history. These are not the kinds of players the Suns are known for. Ever. Maybe Michael Beasley's influence is still on people's minds and fans have lowered their standards on what kinds of players they want to watch but I have not. I want to watch players that actually go all out and do everything they are capable of to win. Perfect example is Matthew Dellavedova. That guy sucks and has virtually no game, but he tries harder than I have ever seen Markieff try in his career. Markieff obviously smokes him talent wise but heart wise there is no comparison. Hence why I say you will never win with Markieff on your roster.

Right. You're not treading any new ground here. And again, I agree with many of your observations. My point is, he must be treated as an asset and traded at the right time, when someone is willing to give us something valuable in return. We can't trade him for a box of cereal.

Post #8 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:50 pm

I just want to make sure all other teams understand that we are secured in the draft. There should be no misunderstanding.

Post #9 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:51 pm

LMA is not a Tier 1 guy, in that he's not a guy who can be the best player on a championship team, but I don't think the Suns CAN attract a Tier 1 guy. California has better weather. Texas has no state income tax. We don't have a championship pedigree. Tier 2 guys like LMA are the best we can do, which is why it sucks to strike out on him. He's gonna be great in San Antonio.

I wonder how McD moves forward.

Post #10 » by **rsavaj** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:51 pm

Nando88 wrote:We can absorb Channing to come back... Just saying

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He was pretty bad last year

Saberestar · Post #11 » by **Saberestar** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:51 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Options: Free agent signing, trade.

Bargnani would provide a Channing Frye type presence and he would be cheap.
Trade for David Lee and Kevon Looney (Tucker?)
Trade for Anthony Bennett (Cleveland pick?) He is going nowhere on that Minny roster. Maybe there is some potential there. His body hasn't been right and we have the training staff for that.

I am just throwing ideas out there.

I prefer one year deal with West ($9M) or a trade for Nene on a contract year.

YouTube · Post #12 » by **Kerrsed** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:54 pm

I wonder how mad Melo is at the Knicks.......

AtheJ415 · Post #13 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:54 pm

Since Wright hasn't signed a deal yet, can we keep his RFA rights and match him?

Post #14 » by **bwgood77** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:55 pm

At this point, you either trade for Galinari or take David Lee in a salary dump and force GSW to include Looney with him.

I'd definitely take Lee just for Looney. It's just one year.

AtheJ415 · Post #15 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:55 pm

Just saying Wright at 6 mil is a real asset that we could then move at a later date. Stupid to let him leave for that little imo. Use his as our backup 4.

AtheJ415 · Post #16 » by **AtheJ415** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:57 pm

Or at least make Memphis trade a pick for him. Future 1st or something.

gaspar · Post #17 » by **gaspar** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:57 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:Options: Free agent signing, trade.

Bargnani would provide a Channing Frye type presence and he would be cheap.
Trade for David Lee and Kevon Looney (Tucker?)
Trade for Anthony Bennett (Cleveland pick?) He is going nowhere on that Minny roster. Maybe there is some potential there. His body hasn't been right and we have the training staff for that.

I am just throwing ideas out there.

Awful. Playing Leuer 40 minutes per game would be better than acquiring any of these guys.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #18 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:58 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:Since Wright hasn't signed a deal yet, can we keep his RFA rights and match him?

wright wasn't a restricted free agent. He was unrestricted and is gone.

Plus with chandler and len where would he fit? He's not a 4 in today's NBA.

letsgosuns · Post #19 » by **letsgosuns** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 7:59 pm

David Lee averaged 18.9 pts and 10.0 rebounds in his three previous seasons with the Warriors before last season. He has never shot below 50% fg in his career. Take at a look at his career stats: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/2772/david-lee Who else could the Suns possibly get at this point better than him unless they trade for a superstar. He is only signed for one year. It would not be a long term commitment. If you can get a guy that puts up nearly 20 and 10 every night when your current power forward averages 15 and 6, you do it. Chandler and Lee could dominant the boards. And Lee runs the floor. I say take the chance and see if you can make the playoffs. Sign Amare too. With a rotating frontcourt of Lee/Amare and Chandler/Len, you can play big or small.

jcsunsfan · Post #20 » by **jcsunsfan** » Sat Jul 4, 2015 8:02 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:Since Wright hasn't signed a deal yet, can we keep his RFA rights and match him?

I think he is unrestricted