Sun agree to terms with Tyson Chandler

[Phystic]

The number of years is a bit of a problem but I see no reason our training staff can't at least keep him at the level of a quality backup for the last year or two. And barring a major injury he should be a quality started for the first year or two.

He's a bit overpaid because of his age, but like others have said we have to overpay a bit. It also makes us a bit more attractive in free agency. And I think, and hope, that Hornacek is the type of coach that puts the best player on the floor regardless of salaries. So if Len outplays Chandler then Len will get the minutes.

[RunDogGun]

So does Davis allow Chandler to use #6 like Adams let Hill use #33?

[bwgood77]

The number of years is a bit of a problem but I see no reason our training staff can't at least keep him at the level of a quality backup for the last year or two. And barring a major injury he should be a quality started for the first year or two.

He's a bit overpaid because of his age, but like others have said we have to overpay a bit. It also makes us a bit more attractive in free agency. And I think, and hope, that Hornacek is the type of coach that puts the best player on the floor regardless of salaries. So if Len outplays Chandler then Len will get the minutes.

That's why the best aspect of the move might be Chandler going from one highly regarded athletic training staff to another. In the six years I've been tracking injury data, the Mavericks have lost the fifth-fewest games to injury. During that span, Phoenix has lost the fewest, and the Suns' training staff has succeeded in keeping aging, injury-prone veterans on the court. And with Len as a backup, Phoenix can limit Chandler's minutes, as Dallas did last season.

Though the Suns can still expect a little regression from Chandler given his age, ESPN's real plus-minus projects him as worth about seven wins above replacement (WAR) in 2015-16. Add Len, and Phoenix could get 10 WAR from the position, which provided about three WAR last season.

Thanks to that upgrade, a preliminary RPM projection shows the Suns as about a 46-win team next season.

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[SkinnyOMiller]

The number of years is a bit of a problem but I see no reason our training staff can't at least keep him at the level of a quality backup for the last year or two. And barring a major injury he should be a quality started for the first year or two.

He's a bit overpaid because of his age, but like others have said we have to overpay a bit. It also makes us a bit more attractive in free agency. And I think, and hope, that Hornacek is the type of coach that puts the best player on the floor regardless of salaries. So if Len outplays Chandler then Len will get the minutes.

This. I think Chandler came to the perfect team to help keep him healthy and out on the court. Hill, Nash, Shaq all played for Phoenix in their late 30's, there's no reason that Chandler can't be a good starter for at least a couple seasons and then a strong backup to Len afterwards.

Beyond his contribution on the court, this team DESPERATELY needed some veteran voices in the locker room and Chandler could really pay dividends in that regard.

[SUN]

I never looked at it that way. The training staff might pull a couple years of good play out of him. So after thinking about it, I'm happy to have Tyson, he's a good dude and will make Len better on D.

[Foliohattu]

I really like this signing, even though the contract is a tad bit long. Not only is Tyson still one of the better individual defenders at the C position and a great rim protector, he's also a great team defender and a vocal communicator on defence calling out blind screens for guards etc.

[JohnWall2]

I honestly think the importance of the Suns trainers are not highlighted enough.

Look at Shaq, his last season or so in Miami he was pretty average, he came to Phoenix, where he even himself said the trainers told him they would get him feeling like he was 20 again and at the age of 36/37 averaged 18/9 and made the All Star Team, Won All Star MVP with Kobe and made All NBA 3rd team. The next season he left to Cleveland and he pretty much stank, although Lebron did him no favours and then in Boston when he played he was pretty good but they just couldnt get him on the court much. Its fair to say his career fell off a cliff when he left Phoenix.

Grant Hill, had severe ankle issues which robbed him of his prime while with the Orlando Magic. Magic fans are still bitter to this day about his max contract because he hardly ever played. His body was thought to be broken. He comes to Phoenix and walla, he is playing again consistently, had mad hops for a 36+ year old and became somewhat of an ironman playing a lot of games and not missing many. He leaves, goes to the Clippers and is injured from bone bruising I believe and proceeds to sit out half the season, comes back and is never really in the rotation from there and then retires. Fair to say his career too was done when he left Phoenix.

Steve Nash, Dallas were hesistant to sign him because of back issues, esepcially as he had entered his 30's. Comes to Phoenix, is a full blown superstar, helps revitalise the franchise and wins two MVP's at the age of 31 and 32 I believe? Anyway, despite all his issues he manages to play to incredibly high level until 37 when even at 37 he lead the league is either total assists or apg, I forget which one. Anyway, like Hill, he was still an incredibly effective player where even at 37 Suns fans didn't want to him to leave. He goes to Lakers and all of a sudden he's having severe issues with nerve damage stemming from his back issues. I know the Lillard collision made the situation worse but it's still fair to say once he left Phoenix he was a shell of his former self.

This is why I'm not concerned at all about Tyson Chandler and the four year deal. Like Hill and Shaq the dude is absolutely an athletic specimen and is coming here at a younger age than either of those guys. It would not suprise me if he remains a starting calibre level player for the duration of the four years even if Len develops to a point where he's the better option to start.

It's not a coincidence in my eyes that the three guys I mentioned fell off a cliff after they left Phoenix(also remembering Hill and Nash had big injury issues pre Phoenix and Shaq was seen as being in a steep decline). I fact I think we should target more vets of their Ilk (HOF talent - no I'm saying Tyson is HOF talent but the other 3 definitely are) because I think we would get more out of them than other teams.

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[aIvin adams]

don't know why Gambo thinks Dallas didn't want Chandler.

insofar as the Mavs relaly didn't want to resign Chandler, it's because they thought they had a chance at DeAndre Jordan. which, ig uess, they did.

the best chance we have to become a contending team is if TJ Warren or Alex Len exceed expectations and become top players at their position. whether or not Len can do that depends almost entirely on whether he can become an above average defensive big. nobody in the league (except maybe KG) knows more about what it takes to operate an elite defense from the baseline than Tyson Chandler.

i have no idea whether his presence will help Len or not... but it's one reason why Chandler's relative value to the Suns would be higher than it was to the Mavs or other teams..

our PG and our C are above avg-to-elite defenders. weeeeird.

[Miklo]

A little late to this thread but I'm excited we got TC, but jeez did we have to hit the cap so hard long term on this one? I'd almost rather pay him the same total amount over 2 years, if that wouldn't be such a ridiculous salary.

Either way, he will be a great presence on the court and an even better mentor for Len. He's at the point in his career for guys of that size where he will decline gradually these next few years, but I guess that's a later problem at the moment..