Who gets Kanter?

[Effigy]

He might be worth offering the max to, if for no other reason that to put the screws to their cheap owner.

The pacers should have room to sign him also after they trade Hibbert, right?

This is just crap. Paid the tax last year and going deep again this year. And at least it's a place where players want to play.

they do? What evidence do you have for that? Who is the most significant free agent they ever signed? I can't remember them ever signing even any good ring chasers. If kd and Russ both re-sign then maybe, but I would bet money that at least one will leave, and I kind of feel like both will.

[MoneyTalks41890]

He might be worth offering the max to, if for no other reason that to put the screws to their cheap owner.

The pacers should have room to sign him also after they trade Hibbert, right?

This is just crap. Paid the tax last year and going deep again this year. And at least it's a place where players want to play.

James Harden says hi. There is something funny about OKC going deep into the tax for kanter but not James Harden a few years back. Also, they have made several tax saving moves over the last couple years despite it hurting their overall talent. They are just doing it now because losing Durant is a real possibility and the rising cap means they only have to do it for a couple years and then they can avoid paying the tax again.

Also it is a lock they move pj3, novak and maybe waiters for free after resigning kanter for luxury tax reasons only.

It's called the repeater tax and no one had any idea cap would go up like this. Not one NBA team has paid the repeater. I'm on my phone so I can't see your join date, but the cheap argument is about 3 years too late at this point. What other tax saving moves to the detriment of the team have been made as you say?

[PSUEagle]

I watched way too much of Enes Kanter the last few months of the season (following OKC hoping for their 1st rounder to convey): dude might seriously be the worst defensive big in the NBA. Can barely jump, incredibly slow, and constantly late/unaware on rotations. In addition, he's kind of a black hole on offense: doesn't really pass enough/effectively.

He's the poster child for how today's NBA has devalued one way big men who's primary role is as a post scorer. For all the **** Roy Hibbert gets, he still contributes more to winning basketball than Kanter does. I seriously wouldn't pay the latter that much: he's most useful as a guy to goose your bench unit IMO.

[Trader_Joe]

This is just crap. Paid the tax last year and going deep again this year. And at least it's a place where players want to play.

James Harden says hi. There is something funny about OKC going deep into the tax for kanter but not James Harden a few years back. Also, they have made several tax saving moves over the last couple years despite it hurting their overall talent. They are just doing it now because losing Durant is a real possibility and the rising cap means they only have to do it for a couple years and then they can avoid paying the tax again.

Also it is a lock they move pj3, novak and maybe waiters for free after resigning kanter for luxury tax reasons only.

It's called the repeater tax and no one had any idea cap would go up like this. Not one NBA team has paid the repeater. I'm on my phone so I can't see your join date, but the cheap argument is about 3 years too late at this point. What other tax saving moves to the detriment of the team have been made as you say?

To be fair, this is the first year any team could pay the repeater tax..but yeah, it's so bad not even Prokhorov wants to pay it.

[nickr91]

Can he play PF? Raps are still looking for someone to fill that role.

Please God no.. terrible fit

[SixersfutureGM]

The repeater tax is for teams that are in the tax for four straight years and since this was put in place in 2012/2013... it is kind of hard for a team to pay it since it is only 2015 going on 2016. You are about to see that team pay it in the Brooklyn nets btw...

Also it isn't just the moves they made but the ones they did not make. After trading Harden for kevin martin (let go in FA), lamb- salary dumped, and adams (the only real piece left from that deal), they have done little to improve their team or depth.

2012-2013 season- signed thabeet, orton, and liggins...that is it... no use of their exceptions... no trades at the deadline

2013-2014- signed fisher and homes... that is it... no use of their exeptions...no trades at the deadline

2014-2015 - let Thabo go in FA and signed Telfair... that is it... Finally made a deal at the deadline for kanter

Also, lets not act like Kanter is in the bag yet. If the thunder lowball him, he could just take the QO like Monroe did and leave the thunder next year.

BTW, I joined this site in 2007, not that should matter... you don't get smarter or your points become more valid because you have been around here longer so lets just agree to drop that argument of yours moving forward.

[MoneyTalks41890]

The repeater tax is for teams that are in the tax for four straight years and since this was put in place in 2012/2013... it is kind of hard for a team to pay it since it is only 2015 going on 2016. You are about to see that team pay it in the Brooklyn nets btw...

Also it isn't just the moves they made but the ones they did not make. After trading Harden for kevin martin (let go in FA), lamb- salary dumped, and adams (the only real piece left from that deal), they have done little to improve their team or depth.

2012-2013 season- signed thabeet, orton, and liggins...that is it... no use of their exceptions... no trades at the deadline

2013-2014- signed fisher and homes... that is it... no use of their exeptions...no trades at the deadline

2014-2015 - let Thabo go in FA and signed Telfair... that is it... Finally made a deal at the deadline for kanter

Also, lets not act like Kanter is in the bag yet. If the thunder lowball him, he could just take the QO like Monroe did and leave the thunder next year.

BTW, I joined this site in 2007, not that should matter... you don't get smarter or your points become more valid because you have been around here longer so lets just agree to drop that argument of yours moving forward.

For the record I wasn't saying anything to the effect of that last part, just that the Harden trade has been brought up a thousand times and we've had this discussion a thousand times on the punitive nature of the repeater and how big of a deal it was to avoid it.

[freestyler34]

According to jazz fans hes worth nothing and he must be in D-league, according to real basketball GMs hes worth max contract,lets see whos right next season

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjXFNqQXl0[/youtube]

[Effigy]

According to jazz fans hes worth nothing and he must be in D-league, according to real basketball GMs hes worth max contract,lets see whos right next season

Did I miss something? What max contract did he get from 'real basketball gms'?

[freestyler34]

According to jazz fans hes worth nothing and he must be in D-league, according to real basketball GMs hes worth max contract,lets see whos right next season

Did I miss something? What max contract did he get from 'real basketball gms'?

He will get something close to Max contract this summer just watch and see

[hornacek4three]

As a Jazz fan, I don't think Kanter is a scrub by any means. He didn't fit with the Jazz's new defense first philosophy and clashed with management. He had a rough shake in that Tyrone Corbin was his first coach and he was behind two vets in Jefferson and Milsap. He didn't handle that the best, the direction of the team shifted, and he made some immature public comments.

We do have some sour grapes because he was the number 3 overall pick and we had high hopes, but we are genuinely glad he's gone so we can move on. Kanter is terrific on the Offensive glass and has excellent touch. I think he can thrive in the right situation. For the Jazz, he was embarassingly bad on defense and sharing the basketball. He was less of a black hole when he went to OKC. I don't think we would have wanted him on the current Jazz team at 15 million a year, but I don't think we got great value for him either.

I think the Thunder will match whatever he is offered. I'm conflicted on rather they should, but there aren't really bad contracts anymore. lol

[DudetheObscure]

After trading Harden for kevin martin (let go in FA), lamb- salary dumped, and adams (the only real piece left from that deal), they have done little to improve their team or depth.

2012-2013 season- signed thabeet, orton, and liggins...that is it... no use of their exceptions... no trades at the deadline

2013-2014- signed fisher and homes... that is it... no use of their exeptions...no trades at the deadline

2014-2015 - let Thabo go in FA and signed Telfair... that is it... Finally made a deal at the deadline for kanter

McGary was part of the Harden trade as well, OKC got him from the Mav's 2014 1st round pick via the Rox. Also, OKC offered Harden good money, but he wanted his own team and has shown he deserved that. He could've never done what he has done on the same team as KD and RW. I wouldn't have been surprised if he signed the QO when he became a RFA just like Monroe.

As far as FA signings, OKC never had the cap space to go after big names. They tried to get Gasol last year, but couldn't pay as much as the Bulls did. This year's trade deadline was their free agency season. They got Kanter, Singler, Agustin and Novak and probably have the best depth in the league other than GSW.

Also, trading PJ3 and Novak is as much about a roster spot as it is about money.

[Nate505]

Loled at all of the butthurt jazz fans in this thread

I'm hurt they didn't trade him earlier. They might have a had a chance at a playoff spot.

[Cappy_Smurf]

According to jazz fans hes worth nothing and he must be in D-league, according to real basketball GMs hes worth max contract,lets see whos right next season

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EjXFNqQXl0[/youtube]

Yeah, that was an awesome moment for Enes. He really fired up a short-handed Jazz to beat the thunder in that game when they were in a close race to make the playoffs. Nice job Enes did leading his winner team to miss the playoffs, but hey, at least he looked cool doing WWE impression.

[BudTugly]

According to jazz fans hes worth nothing and he must be in D-league, according to real basketball GMs hes worth max contract,lets see whos right next season

No, according to YOU he's worth max. In reality Kanter is worth very little to organizations who have done their homework.

Funny, this clown has been trolling the Jazz room for ages over Enes. Here he is putting his chips down. Welp, here you go chump. That dude has zero future anywhere. You're called.

[Hero]

OKC is going to have to overpay. Kanter lucked out big time going there.

[Jables]

This guy is a cancer, proved it with what he said about the Jazz and the way he acted in general. Probably the worst defender in the league and "he's young" doesn't cut it as an excuse, he's been in the league for years and hasn't improved as a defender at all. Or as a player really, he'd be one of the least willing passers too I imagine.
This guy is the epitome of a box score player (if you only look at points and rebound stats, that is).

[StocktonShorts]

The Reggie Jackson/Enes Kanter parallels are amusing.

[Austincys21]

Why not the knicks

[MemphisX]

This is just crap. Paid the tax last year and going deep again this year. And at least it's a place where players want to play.

James Harden says hi. There is something funny about OKC going deep into the tax for kanter but not James Harden a few years back. Also, they have made several tax saving moves over the last couple years despite it hurting their overall talent. They are just doing it now because losing Durant is a real possibility and the rising cap means they only have to do it for a couple years and then they can avoid paying the tax again.

Also it is a lock they move pj3, novak and maybe waiters for free after resigning kanter for luxury tax reasons only.

It's called the repeater tax and no one had any idea cap would go up like this. Not one NBA team has paid the repeater. I'm on my phone so I can't see your join date, but the cheap argument is about 3 years too late at this point. What other tax saving moves to the detriment of the team have been made as you say?

You need more than giving away a potential MVP to avoid the tax while breaking up one of the youngest NBA finalist teams ever?