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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#621 » by JMac1 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:22 pm

No trade for Markieff...He is assuming we won't trade him for another PF, I guess. He said we have no depth. Gambo is speculating...it seems to me.
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Post#622 » by GDFTony » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:24 pm

Puff wrote:I am really not that disappointed in not coming to terms with LMA. I actually think he is a bit over rated and turns 30 soon.

I just hope we are able to move both Markieff and Tucker. I really do not want to watch them play for us another season. That was almost a given when we had a chance at LMA. That was my biggest disappointment in not signing LMA.

It will be interesting as to what McDonough ends up doing.

I don't want to jinx him but I like Josh Harrelson. I hope he does well in the summer league.



It would of been a great signing especially after what the franchise has been through.

But game changing? No. He would be the first star of two or three that would be needed to be legitimate contenders. What made it so enticing was A) preventing the Spurs from improving B) make us playoff contenders immediately C) make it a more attractive situation for other FA's.

In the end, we are still on the same path that McD and Sarver stated when McD was hired. Everyone forgets that our roster exploded the first years and **** up the plans/expectations.
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Post#623 » by Barkley6 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:27 pm

Puff wrote:I am really not that disappointed in not coming to terms with LMA. I actually think he is a bit over rated and turns 30 soon.

I just hope we are able to move both Markieff and Tucker. I really do not want to watch them play for us another season. That was almost a given when we had a chance at LMA. That was my biggest disappointment in not signing LMA.

It will be interesting as to what McDonough ends up doing.

I don't want to jinx him but I like Josh Harrelson. I hope he does well in the summer league.


I'm fine with trading Markieff, I don't want to trade Tucker. With Bledsoe, Chandler and Tucker on the floor together, our defense is legit. He's also one of the few shooters we have. and is a very good rebounder for the SF position. People say 3 and D is easy to find, but that hustle and rebounding isn't as easy to find all in one player.
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Post#624 » by thamadkant » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:28 pm

Ryan Anderson is the ideal PF to a team with 2 scoring combo guards and a defensive center. Well Kevin Love is still the perfect fit, but Anderson is actually a more of a specialist 3pt shooter... He can rebound too.
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Post#625 » by letsgosuns » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:30 pm

As much as I have believed Gambo for many years, he has not broken one trade or free agent signing for the Suns since McDonough has arrived. I have no doubt the Suns will look hard into replacing Markieff Morris regardless of Gambo's reporting that he will stay. In addition, Gambo never said one word about Tyson Chandler and the Suns signed him. That was a complete surprise and came out of nowhere. I keep saying it. I expect the next move the Suns make will surprise everyone. That is how McDonough works. He has a flair for the dramatic.
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Post#626 » by MrMiyagi » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:31 pm

Gambo is an idiot.
SHAZAM!

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Post#627 » by SkinnyOMiller » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:34 pm

letsgosuns wrote:As much as I have believed Gambo for many years, he has not broken one trade or free agent signing for the Suns since McDonough has arrived. I have no doubt the Suns will look hard into replacing Markieff Morris regardless of Gambo's reporting that he will stay. In addition, Gambo never said one word about Tyson Chandler and the Suns signed him. That was a complete surprise and came out of nowhere. I keep saying it. I expect the next move the Suns make will surprise everyone. That is how McDonough works. He has a flair for the dramatic.



I don't doubt that Gambo has some very good sources, I do think he sits on a lot of information so as not to burn a potential source. I think that he generally has a good idea of what is going on with the Suns so when he says that they won't trade for David Lee under any circumstance, I believe him.
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Post#628 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:37 pm

1UPZ wrote:Ryan Anderson is the ideal PF to a team with 2 scoring combo guards and a defensive center. Well Kevin Love is still the perfect fit, but Anderson is actually a more of a specialist 3pt shooter... He can rebound too.


He would be good, but I would be concerned about rebounding.
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Post#629 » by Damkac » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:37 pm

Let's get Anderson and call it a good offseason.
RA isn't LA but he would make Suns offense looks much better.
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Post#630 » by letsgosuns » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:42 pm

I have no interest in Ryan Anderson. I would rather keep Markieff Morris and you all know how much I hate Markieff. Anderson would be a 100% lateral move. Does not remotely do anything for the Suns. Terrible rebounder and as far as I am concerned, not a good defender. Oh yeah, he usually misses at least 25% of the season. Just look at his career stats. His addition to the team would do nothing. Yeah he stretches the floor. So what. Put Markieff at the three point line all game and he would stretch the floor too. Anderson is not somebody you trade for unless you have a superstar and you need an extra role player. Getting him would do nothing for the Suns win total. Pass on him.
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Post#631 » by RunDogGun » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:44 pm

SkinnyOMiller wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:As much as I have believed Gambo for many years, he has not broken one trade or free agent signing for the Suns since McDonough has arrived. I have no doubt the Suns will look hard into replacing Markieff Morris regardless of Gambo's reporting that he will stay. In addition, Gambo never said one word about Tyson Chandler and the Suns signed him. That was a complete surprise and came out of nowhere. I keep saying it. I expect the next move the Suns make will surprise everyone. That is how McDonough works. He has a flair for the dramatic.



I don't doubt that Gambo has some very good sources, I do think he sits on a lot of information so as not to burn a potential source. I think that he generally has a good idea of what is going on with the Suns so when he says that they won't trade for David Lee under any circumstance, I believe him.

Well we really can't trade for Lee anyways, without giving GS too much. We'd have to give them Markieff, and I don't see the point in that, unless they threw in some picks and we had another PF in mind to fill that bench role.

I still think our best move (if NO wants to free up cap space this season), is to trade Leuer, McNeal, and really not much more, for Anderson. From there we do a few things. Either bring him off the bench to run with Warren and Len, or start him, and keep a younger core of Warren, Markieff, and Len coming off the bench together.
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Post#632 » by tdjm » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:54 pm

letsgosuns wrote:I have no interest in Ryan Anderson. I would rather keep Markieff Morris and you all know how much I hate Markieff. Anderson would be a 100% lateral move. Does not remotely do anything for the Suns. Terrible rebounder and as far as I am concerned, not a good defender. Oh yeah, he usually misses at least 25% of the season. Just look at his career stats. His addition to the team would do nothing. Yeah he stretches the floor. So what. Put Markieff at the three point line all game and he would stretch the floor too. Anderson is not somebody you trade for unless you have a superstar and you need an extra role player. Getting him would do nothing for the Suns win total. Pass on him.


Preach it.

If we get rid of Keef, I'd seriously rather just play hyper small ball with one center (at least one of Len/Tyson on the floor at once) than waste valuable minutes on retreads when we aren't contending. At least all the youth get minutes, then.
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Post#633 » by Saberestar » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:54 pm

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SkinnyOMiller wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:As much as I have believed Gambo for many years, he has not broken one trade or free agent signing for the Suns since McDonough has arrived. I have no doubt the Suns will look hard into replacing Markieff Morris regardless of Gambo's reporting that he will stay. In addition, Gambo never said one word about Tyson Chandler and the Suns signed him. That was a complete surprise and came out of nowhere. I keep saying it. I expect the next move the Suns make will surprise everyone. That is how McDonough works. He has a flair for the dramatic.



I don't doubt that Gambo has some very good sources, I do think he sits on a lot of information so as not to burn a potential source. I think that he generally has a good idea of what is going on with the Suns so when he says that they won't trade for David Lee under any circumstance, I believe him.

Well we really can't trade for Lee anyways, without giving GS too much. We'd have to give them Markieff, and I don't see the point in that, unless they threw in some picks and we had another PF in mind to fill that bench role.

I still think our best move (if NO wants to free up cap space this season), is to trade Leuer, McNeal, and really not much more, for Anderson. From there we do a few things. Either bring him off the bench to run with Warren and Len, or start him, and keep a younger core of Warren, Markieff, and Len coming off the bench together.

This. I really like a frontcourt of Ryan Anderson, Markieff, Chandler and Len. Throw them some pick and grab that good stretch PF for us.
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Post#634 » by saintEscaton » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:54 pm

jcsunsfan wrote:
1UPZ wrote:Ryan Anderson is the ideal PF to a team with 2 scoring combo guards and a defensive center. Well Kevin Love is still the perfect fit, but Anderson is actually a more of a specialist 3pt shooter... He can rebound too.


He would be good, but I would be concerned about rebounding.


Anderson's per game rebounding line might look weak in comparison to the league average for a PF but really you gotta look at his limited minutes when the Pels wanted to go big with AD and Asik while also restricting the number of potentially available rebounds for him to grab. His total rebound percentage indicates that he did capitalize on a fair amount of his opportunities but his defense is really the most worrying deficiency. Even the benefit of always having Chandler/Len's rim protection besides him might not be able to compensate for.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#635 » by BobbieL » Mon Jul 6, 2015 9:58 pm

bwgood77 wrote:
RunDogGun wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Not sure how reliable he is, but here is his latest zinger..

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Schultz_Report/status/618129862780448769[/tweet]

We should post some weird trade ideas here but plausible, and see what he tweets next. :wink:


Well if the Pelicans are worried they could lose him next summer, we could try Markieff to Orlando, Frye to New Orleans and Anderson to us. They all have similar salaries and Gentry has a history with Frye and Orlando needs scoring.



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Post#636 » by BobbieL » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:02 pm

letsgosuns wrote:As much as I have believed Gambo for many years, he has not broken one trade or free agent signing for the Suns since McDonough has arrived. I have no doubt the Suns will look hard into replacing Markieff Morris regardless of Gambo's reporting that he will stay. In addition, Gambo never said one word about Tyson Chandler and the Suns signed him. That was a complete surprise and came out of nowhere. I keep saying it. I expect the next move the Suns make will surprise everyone. That is how McDonough works. He has a flair for the dramatic.



Yep. Gambo "broke" the Aldridge signing about 15 minutes after everybody else.

I don't think Gambo has the inside knowledge anymore

Suns have two things to do before Thursday:
1) trade Markieff. Cannot trust how childish he wll behave without Mook
2) use some, if not all, of the cap space, pre signing Knight. It would be a waste to waste that 6-8m dollars of cap space

I still want Amare as a back up 4 but more than that - Mo Williams as your guy off the bench
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Post#637 » by RunDogGun » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:05 pm

As long as we go back to keeping at least one of Bledsoe or Knight on the court at all times, I wouldn't mind a first rest of Bledsoe, and run a second unit of Knight, Goodwin, Warren, Anderson, Len (if we still start Markieff). That way we have two slashers in Goodwin and Warren(more of a cutter than slasher), and Knight can slash as well. Len has some range, so the lanes should be clear.

Then run Bledsoe, Booker, Tucker, Markieff, and Chandler together for a bit. It gives us spacing except for Chandler, but he could run high screen and roles, and still get to the basket quickly.
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Re: Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs 

Post#638 » by letsgosuns » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:08 pm

BobbieL wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:As much as I have believed Gambo for many years, he has not broken one trade or free agent signing for the Suns since McDonough has arrived. I have no doubt the Suns will look hard into replacing Markieff Morris regardless of Gambo's reporting that he will stay. In addition, Gambo never said one word about Tyson Chandler and the Suns signed him. That was a complete surprise and came out of nowhere. I keep saying it. I expect the next move the Suns make will surprise everyone. That is how McDonough works. He has a flair for the dramatic.



Yep. Gambo "broke" the Aldridge signing about 15 minutes after everybody else.

I don't think Gambo has the inside knowledge anymore

Suns have two things to do before Thursday:
1) trade Markieff. Cannot trust how childish he wll behave without Mook
2) use some, if not all, of the cap space, pre signing Knight. It would be a waste to waste that 6-8m dollars of cap space

I still want Amare as a back up 4 but more than that - Mo Williams as your guy off the bench


I would try to do a trade with the Knicks and give them Markieff and/or Tucker for Porzingis. They are stupid enough to give Robin Lopez 4 years, 54 million. No doubt they are stupid enough do anything. Signing Lopez to that kind of money is like throwing it into a trash can. He is legitimately awful. After the Suns trade Markieff and Tucker to the Knicks for Porzingis and 5 draft picks (is five enough to ask the Knicks or am I selling the Suns short), sign Amare and a backup pg like you said.
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Post#639 » by GDFTony » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:10 pm

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Post#640 » by RaisingArizona » Mon Jul 6, 2015 10:13 pm

This board is super obsessed with Ryan Anderson and trying to find ways to trade Markieff lol. SMH
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