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Post#221 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Jul 5, 2015 6:10 am

Him grabbing the Sf spot and keeping it is one of the best things that could happen to this franchise. If he's actually good it changes how we view this team.

Go TJ. The training wheels are off time to produce.
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Post#222 » by DirtyDez » Sun Jul 5, 2015 6:12 am

I'll definitely be complaining if TJ gets limited minutes. I never really cared whether Archie did because he was 18-19 years old. I think Booker should do a lot of sitting and learning but TJ will be 22 at the start of the season and was a star in college. He NEEDS to play.
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Post#223 » by TASTIC » Sun Jul 5, 2015 11:55 am

Work on your 3 ball TJ, that'll help you pass Tucker in the depth chart.

He can be that hustle, glue-guy type that Tucker is now, but a much better/more efficient scorer.

Lots of cutting, finishing with contact, offensive rebounding etc, that will earn him minutes.

I've got more faith in Warren eventuating than I do Archie, which wasn't the case when both were respectively drafted.
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Post#224 » by Mr Puddles » Sun Jul 5, 2015 12:43 pm

TASTIC wrote:Work on your 3 ball TJ, that'll help you pass Tucker in the depth chart.

He can be that hustle, glue-guy type that Tucker is now, but a much better/more efficient scorer.

Lots of cutting, finishing with contact, offensive rebounding etc, that will earn him minutes.

I've got more faith in Warren eventuating than I do Archie, which wasn't the case when both were respectively drafted.


While I hope TJ can develop a good three point shot, especially a consistent corner three, I do hope he doesn't fall in love with it and continues to sticks to do what he does best. Kind of reminds me when Dragic was a rookie and he was trying to be a pass first Nash type of point guard, he started coming into his own when he realized that he's a scoring PG. TJ should continue to be a slasher/driver first, shooter second.
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Post#225 » by lilfishi22 » Sun Jul 5, 2015 12:53 pm

TJ will be fine once he gets a 3PT shot in his repertoire. It'll actually open the game much more for him since he'll be able to threaten guys with his range and take them off the dribble and work his magic midrange game.
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Post#226 » by saintEscaton » Sun Jul 5, 2015 5:07 pm

TJ might be the only reason I'll be watching Suns games this season
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Post#227 » by blacksun » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:20 am

Honestly havent seen TJ much post all star break. It was the tail end of my undergraduate thesis. Can anybody outline why theres so much optimism about him? Whats his ceiling? Are the Bernard King comparisons warranted?
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Post#228 » by Blackification » Mon Jul 6, 2015 1:30 am

blacksun wrote:Honestly havent seen TJ much post all star break. It was the tail end of my undergraduate thesis. Can anybody outline why theres so much optimism about him? Whats his ceiling? Are the Bernard King comparisons warranted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfK0-94d2kk

^Warning its best not to watch the end of that video

he knows how to move without the ball, was the only player cutting to the basket last year, and has great finishing ability and a mid range jumper. He is also one of those players that just knows how to get the ball whether its a rebound or a loose ball.
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Post#229 » by TASTIC » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:02 pm

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blacksun wrote:Honestly havent seen TJ much post all star break. It was the tail end of my undergraduate thesis. Can anybody outline why theres so much optimism about him? Whats his ceiling? Are the Bernard King comparisons warranted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfK0-94d2kk

^Warning its best not to watch the end of that video

he knows how to move without the ball, was the only player cutting to the basket last year, and has great finishing ability and a mid range jumper. He is also one of those players that just knows how to get the ball whether its a rebound or a loose ball.

Damn they took down Dawk Ins?! That dude did great work, glad I already downloaded a heap of his old school clips...

Warren reminds me of Antawn Jamison and Corey Maggette, two guys who were 20pt scorers in this league, neither started out with three point shots either - so there's time.
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Post#230 » by DRK » Mon Jul 6, 2015 12:50 pm

If Warren isnt starting I would be very disappointed next season.

We relied much too much on Bledsoe to create something out of nothing last season, and with our stagnant offence, lead to many turnovers.

Warren's off-ball movement is key to getting us very easy buckets. Watching alot of his film, alot of his shots are simple layups that he finished off a great backdoor cut- finding a sleeping defence.

Warren reminds me of Paul Pierce without a three point shot. He is probably one of the craftiest scoring forwards in the league, and the way his uses his inbetween game, as well as his signature little (hover layup) really is unique for a player in today's league.

Definitely we got a great find here in Warren.
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Post#231 » by PackSuns » Mon Jul 6, 2015 3:24 pm

Tj will get 20 pts and 7rebs a game if he plays 30 mins a game next year.
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Post#232 » by TASTIC » Mon Jul 6, 2015 3:32 pm

PackSuns wrote:Tj will get 20 pts and 7rebs a game if he plays 30 mins a game next year.

I think that's pretty damn high expectations!

I think he'd be closer to his per-36s if he played 30mins, so something like 14-15pts and 5-6 rebounds and a steal per.

I love that he shot 53% from the floor, despite the low attempts etc - not very many rookies, especially SFs, shoot that high.

We know what PJ can do, keep that in your back-pocket/off the bench and let Warren play 30min every night.
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Post#233 » by PackSuns » Mon Jul 6, 2015 5:42 pm

Tj is that the kind of player that rattles off 6-10 points in a row at any given time. The more time he has on the floor the more times he will have spurts like that. I know it sounds like high expectations but I have seen him do it at every level. He has played with or against pros since he was in HS and this has always been his MO. He scores in bunches. Whether it has been in HS College AAU Summer Leagues NBDL and even in his rookie season. Wait and see.
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Post#234 » by jcsunsfan » Mon Jul 6, 2015 6:00 pm

If TJ plays D, he can stay on the floor longer.
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Post#235 » by JMac1 » Mon Jul 6, 2015 6:28 pm

PackSuns wrote:Tj is that the kind of player that rattles off 6-10 points in a row at any given time. The more time he has on the floor the more times he will have spurts like that. I know it sounds like high expectations but I have seen him do it at every level. He has played with or against pros since he was in HS and this has always been his MO. He scores in bunches. Whether it has been in HS College AAU Summer Leagues NBDL and even in his rookie season. Wait and see.



No! I am tired of waiting.

Let Warren and Len start contributing and you will hear a lot of complaining subsiding.
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Post#236 » by Revived » Tue Jul 7, 2015 9:23 am

jcsunsfan wrote:If TJ plays D, he can stay on the floor longer.

It's not fair that same rule didn't apply to other players like Green, Frye, Kieff, Plumlee, Marcus etc.
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Post#237 » by Djedefre » Tue Jul 7, 2015 9:53 am

If Tucker stays, it'll be a balanced minute split.
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Post#238 » by jcsunsfan » Tue Jul 7, 2015 3:58 pm

Blackification wrote:
blacksun wrote:Honestly havent seen TJ much post all star break. It was the tail end of my undergraduate thesis. Can anybody outline why theres so much optimism about him? Whats his ceiling? Are the Bernard King comparisons warranted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfK0-94d2kk

^Warning its best not to watch the end of that video

he knows how to move without the ball, was the only player cutting to the basket last year, and has great finishing ability and a mid range jumper. He is also one of those players that just knows how to get the ball whether its a rebound or a loose ball.


Warren not only knows how to cut, he has a knack for knowing just when his defender's eyes turn away, or moving just as his defender commits to a direction. You watch him do it and he does it with such ease.

You have to think that TJ's progress had something to do with the Marcus Morris trade.
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Post#239 » by bwgood77 » Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:35 am

Was my favorite player coming into the season (now it's probably Booker) but has he seemed just seriously off these last few games?
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Post#240 » by sunskerr » Sat Dec 12, 2015 6:50 am

bwgood77 wrote:Was my favorite player coming into the season (now it's probably Booker) but has he seemed just seriously off these last few games?


Booker has earned some of his minutes. Again, a problem which can be alleviated by trading or reducing PJ Tucker's minutes.

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