Trade Idea Thread II

[Neddy]

I'd trade the last 2 years of JJ for a year of Noah.

and I'd re-sign Noah at the end of the season too and stop worrying about my Center position.
dead srs.

Clipper fan been overratin JJ lately.
get over that dude. ran great offense without him. he doesnt make or break this team.

I'll take healthy JJ playing 70+ games in a season over Noah playing maybe 35 at this point.

[nickhx2]

I'd trade the last 2 years of JJ for a year of Noah.

and I'd re-sign Noah at the end of the season too and stop worrying about my Center position.
dead srs.

Clipper fan been overratin JJ lately.
get over that dude. ran great offense without him. he doesnt make or break this team.

you just don't appreciate his value. apparently you'd rather have a decrepit cripple on the court for a higher price and less years than one of the most efficient players in the NBA. there is a reason why bulls fans are trying their damndest to get rid of him. but if you were the team's GM you'd be doing them the biggest favor they could possibly dream of.

you can keep pointing out our "great" offense from the year before but maybe you should keep in mind the team's bench was a lot better, and jamal crawford actually played like a real NBA player for an entire year. btw, guys who beat up on bad teams in the regular season do quite a bit to add to a team's offense, and crawford is the ultimate king of killing bad nba teams. also keep in mind that that year we had alvin gentry heading our offensive tactics. all kinds of things shifted dramatically this past year and JJ did gigantic things for us throughout the season.


the difference is night and day with JJ. believe it or not if you don't like, but the tape doesn't lie. nor do all the basketball analysts that gush about how JJ opens up the offense. don't forget that the team made game-breaking runs against the spurs whenever popovich decided to switch kawhi off of him and onto cp3.

trading JJ for an antiquated center at an antiquated position is not the answer.

[mttwlsn16]

I'd trade the last 2 years of JJ for a year of Noah.

and I'd re-sign Noah at the end of the season too and stop worrying about my Center position.
dead srs.

Clipper fan been overratin JJ lately.
get over that dude. ran great offense without him. he doesnt make or break this team.

Noah is broken

[Lindecision]

I'd do it for Pau Gasol though.

[Ranma]

The best Jamal Crawford deal I could come up with is shipping Brendan Haywood's expiring contract to Chicago for Taj Gibson. He does have another year at $8.95 million on his contract after the 2015-16 season, but he's still appealing even with his recuperation from arthroscopic ankle surgery. I would also think his expiring contract should be fairly easy to trade in the summer of 2016, if necessary. No doubt, it's a risky move but it could be our best bet.

[QRich3]

I'd take the gamble of Noah for Lance, chances are Lance is not gonna work out too well anyway. Absolutely not for JJ. If this was 2013 Noah I'd be all over it, but Noah is probably not gonna be same ever again. That's the only reason he's on the market. Wings with JJ's shooting accuracy are hard to come by on the NBA, and with his playmaking ability and decent defense, he's got A LOT of value.

Would love Gibson too, but he's got more value than to get him for Haywood's contract or even for Lance straight up. No chance we get it without including a 1st. And with our future up in the air, we can't be offering future 1st rounders like it's nothing.

[LACtdom]

JJ has found his role and fits in perfectly with our system. No way i'd be happy trading him for Noah. I'd rather not contend and try and get a center next year instead of making a dumb trade just to fill a very short term need with a risky old player with injury concerns.

[Lindecision]

The best Jamal Crawford deal I could come up with is shipping Brendan Haywood's expiring contract to Chicago for Taj Gibson. He does have another year at $8.95 million on his contract after the 2015-16 season, but he's still appealing even with his recuperation from arthroscopic ankle surgery. I would also think his expiring contract should be fairly easy to trade in the summer of 2016, if necessary. No doubt, it's a risky move but it could be our best bet.

But couldn't we use the cap space from waiving Haywood for someone like Jordan Hill? I think we'd get around MLE type money, maybe a bit more, which should be enough.

Despite his injuries, I feel like the Bulls would still want some kind of an asset for Taj Gibson. Apart from that Nets 2nd, we don't have any. Thank god the Dudley 1st is lotto protected.

[Quake Griffin]

I'd trade the last 2 years of JJ for a year of Noah.

and I'd re-sign Noah at the end of the season too and stop worrying about my Center position.
dead srs.

Clipper fan been overratin JJ lately.
get over that dude. ran great offense without him. he doesnt make or break this team.

you just don't appreciate his value. apparently you'd rather have a decrepit cripple on the court for a higher price and less years than one of the most efficient players in the NBA. there is a reason why bulls fans are trying their damndest to get rid of him. but if you were the team's GM you'd be doing them the biggest favor they could possibly dream of.

you can keep pointing out our "great" offense from the year before but maybe you should keep in mind the team's bench was a lot better, and jamal crawford actually played like a real NBA player for an entire year. btw, guys who beat up on bad teams in the regular season do quite a bit to add to a team's offense, and crawford is the ultimate king of killing bad nba teams. also keep in mind that that year we had alvin gentry heading our offensive tactics. all kinds of things shifted dramatically this past year and JJ did gigantic things for us throughout the season.


the difference is night and day with JJ. believe it or not if you don't like, but the tape doesn't lie. nor do all the basketball analysts that gush about how JJ opens up the offense. don't forget that the team made game-breaking runs against the spurs whenever popovich decided to switch kawhi off of him and onto cp3.

trading JJ for an antiquated center at an antiquated position is not the answer.

They would be giving us another asset….you know, those things that burn a hole in Doc's pocket. And they mean something, as we saw, teams were rumored to want to trade out of the 1st to avoid the salary/ value. It may just help us move up and get a player.

Noah sucked on offense. His defense and rebounding rate was just fine. Not to mention, he's smarter than DJ ever dreamed of being (on the floor) and he's a good passer.

I do appreciate Redick's value. It's at its peak. Which means it could yield us a nice little return for a team that has sacrificed assets and spent tons of money to buy the damn near last pick of the draft.
But all our fans think of is that #1 offense….that hasnt won **** for me nor kept Laker/ Warrior fan out of my ear.

[Ranma]

But couldn't we use the cap space from waiving Haywood for someone like Jordan Hill? I think we'd get around MLE type money, maybe a bit more, which should be enough.

Despite his injuries, I feel like the Bulls would still want some kind of an asset for Taj Gibson. Apart from that Nets 2nd, we don't have any. Thank god the Dudley 1st is lotto protected.

I believe so, but I have to defer to Tucson Clip, our resident expert, to be certain. Your estimation about MLE-range money sounds right since we're maybe over the cap by $2.5 million subtracted from the outgoing salary of the proposed trade. We'd also have to take into account the reserved cap holds for open spots on a full 12-man roster (with regards to salary cap purposes).

You're also probably right about the Bulls wanting more in another asset, but I don't make that deal, since I'm trying to sell them on luxury tax savings.

[TucsonClip]

But couldn't we use the cap space from waiving Haywood for someone like Jordan Hill? I think we'd get around MLE type money, maybe a bit more, which should be enough.

Despite his injuries, I feel like the Bulls would still want some kind of an asset for Taj Gibson. Apart from that Nets 2nd, we don't have any. Thank god the Dudley 1st is lotto protected.

I believe so, but I have to defer to Tucson Clip, our resident expert, to be certain. Your estimation about MLE-range money sounds right since we're maybe over the cap by $2.5 million subtracted from the outgoing salary of the proposed trade. We'd also have to take into account the reserved cap holds for open spots on a full 12-man roster (with regards to salary cap purposes).

You're also probably right about the Bulls wanting more in another asset, but I don't make that deal, since I'm trying to sell them on luxury tax savings.

We would have right around the MLE, but I am not certain that would be enough to sign Hill, not to mention we would have just given away Crawford for nothing (which we could have done before July 1). I dont see Doc giving Jamal away for nothing.

We would only have 6 players under contract, which is a major issue. If we signed Hill for what we would have left ($65.91 mil, including 7 minimum cap holds) we then have 7 players, $2.5 mil left on the MLE and only minimum contracts.

The preferred way to add players would be to use Haywood's contract. It provides more options to improve the roster.

[Lindecision]

Back to square one. Who is Jamal being traded for?

Jason Thompson and Channing Frye would be nice.

Although Doc apparently wanting value for Jamal would suggest it might not happen.

[nickhx2]

jason thompson's contract sucks. we need to be aiming either for someone better or someone who doesn't compromise 2016.

[TucsonClip]

Thompson's deal is partilly guaranteed for $2.8 mil next season. Not sure what assets the Cavs would be willing to give up to send to Philly, because I doubt Hinkie is interested in Crawford. He would need to make a deal at the deadline to have any use for him.

[og15]

I don't like Thompson's contract, even $2.8 million is too much to have hanging on next off-season and he's just not that good. Frye makes too much for too long

[Lindecision]

They would both help this team more than Jamal, who doesn't have a ton of value to get anything better. Thompson's partial guarantee is what I like about it. He helps us right now and becomes a nice trade chip for the year after.

[mttwlsn16]

Coworker of mine is a Heat fan. We were talking today and both agreed some form of Jamal for Birdman or McBob would be good for both teams (miami would have to throw something in to match salaries)
I'd be cool w that.

[JayClips92]

Coworker of mine is a Heat fan. We were talking today and both agreed some form of Jamal for Birdman or McBob would be good for both teams (miami would have to throw something in to match salaries)
I'd be cool w that.

They just signed Green for the Vet Min. not sure the heat want to trade for Jamal now

[Lindecision]

Boozer at the vet min being reported. Not against it.

[nickhx2]

oh my christ i hope not.

no better way to ruin this offseason than to sign garbage cans who can't defend. i'd literally rather give hollins a call. plus he's gonna get in the way dawson's development big time.