Official: Hibbert traded to Lakers

[ak7]

My favorite Laker is Clarkson. Will it be too much to ask?

Unless we're taking back Nick Young? Yes. Too much to ask.

Lakers aren't dumb enough to move Clarkson just to dump Young ($5 mill a year/3 years) with the salary cap increasing to what it is the next few seasons. Come on now. Randle as well.

And yes, Clarkson has yet to play meaningful minutes on a "good" team, but he's played well and that's something to account for none the less in his single season in which he was pegged as an end of the bench rotational player on draft night.

I think we end up just sending a 2nd unless you guys agree to take on Kelly and/or Young. Don't think it gets more complicated than that and most likely ends up just being a highly protected 2nd for Hibbert, maybe including Kelly.

[pacers33]

My favorite Laker is Clarkson. Will it be too much to ask?

Unless we're taking back Nick Young? Yes. Too much to ask.

Lakers aren't dumb enough to move Clarkson just to dump Young ($5 mill a year/3 years) with the salary cap increasing to what it is the next few seasons. Come on now. Randle as well.

And yes, Clarkson has yet to play meaningful minutes on a "good" team, but he's played well and that's something to account for none the less in his single season in which he was pegged as an end of the bench rotational player on draft night.

I think we end up just sending a 2nd unless you guys agree to take on Kelly and/or Young. Don't think it gets more complicated than that and most likely ends up just being a highly protected 2nd for Hibbert, maybe including Kelly.

I know we're eager to get rid of Hibbert, but I think you're undervaluing him. Could be because you're the cool Lakers fan who doesn't give a **** about who's on your team because you can buy your superstars anyway.

[ak7]

Unless we're taking back Nick Young? Yes. Too much to ask.

Lakers aren't dumb enough to move Clarkson just to dump Young ($5 mill a year/3 years) with the salary cap increasing to what it is the next few seasons. Come on now. Randle as well.

And yes, Clarkson has yet to play meaningful minutes on a "good" team, but he's played well and that's something to account for none the less in his single season in which he was pegged as an end of the bench rotational player on draft night.

I think we end up just sending a 2nd unless you guys agree to take on Kelly and/or Young. Don't think it gets more complicated than that and most likely ends up just being a highly protected 2nd for Hibbert, maybe including Kelly.

I know we're eager to get rid of Hibbert, but I think you're undervaluing him. Could be because you're the cool Lakers fan who doesn't give a **** about who's on your team because you can buy your superstars anyway.

Ummm....alright?

Anyways, not sure how I am undervaluing him - it's widely known amongst the league that you can get Hibbert for next to nothing and that the Pacers are actively trying to move him. The fact that a team is willing to give you a 2nd for him should be a win for the Pacers.

[pacers33]

No, it shouldn't. I'd want more than a second for Roy Hibbert. I'd imagine Bird thinks the same way, and he hates Hibbert.

[Scoot McGroot]

No, it shouldn't. I'd want more than a second for Roy Hibbert. I'd imagine Bird thinks the same way, and he hates Hibbert.

Clearly, Bird doesn't, because he apparently traded Hibbert for a 2nd, some cash, and maybe the rights to a foreign stashed 2nd round draft rights.

[Scoot McGroot]

I think we end up just sending a 2nd unless you guys agree to take on Kelly and/or Young. Don't think it gets more complicated than that and most likely ends up just being a highly protected 2nd for Hibbert, maybe including Kelly.

It's a 2nd rounder and cash for Hibbert right now. If Kelly is added in and we do you guys a favor by taking him on, I imagine we'd either get more cash, or another 2nd. I think that's about the extent of the Indy side.

[pacers33]

I don't agree with this stupid mindset Bird has. Trash a guy and try to trade him when his value is low. Like, why?

[Scoot McGroot]

I don't agree with this stupid mindset Bird has. Trash a guy and try to trade him when his value is low. Like, why?

I think he really wanted him to opt out, so that he could've operated with that extra $15.5m in cap space at the onset of free agency, and maybe gone after an Aldridge, Jordan, or Danny Green.

Going back a ways, Hibbert has never been Bird's guy. Remember, Bird was on his one year sabbatical when Pritchard and Walsh matched Portland's offer for Hibbert, and word through the press corps back then was that if Bird was around, he would've let him walk and shopped around. Ultimately, I think Bird is just the old school guy that kind of hates players that need to be coddled and protected all the time. I think he was willing to overlook Lance in that regards because he was still on his first contract, and a younger guy. Roy, however, was on his second deal and has been in the league 7 years, all after playing 4 years at Georgetown.

But, also, why keep Hibbert if there's already the disconnect? Do we really want it dragging out into the year? Maybe we get some more value out of Hibbert mid year (though we would've lost Stuckey, as a result, too). But also, maybe Hibbert sets a bad tone around Myles Turner that we just don't want? Who knows.

Ideally, it would've played out better. But it didn't. Nothing to do now.

[MNPacersfan]

It's a 2nd rounder and cash for Hibbert right now. If Kelly is added in and we do you guys a favor by taking him on, I imagine we'd either get more cash, or another 2nd. I think that's about the extent of the Indy side.

Last news I saw was that the Pacers were sending cash to LA in the deal to cover the trade kicker (couple million $$). So yeah, they do seem ready to do whatever it takes to move him on to his next home.

[Scoot McGroot]

It's a 2nd rounder and cash for Hibbert right now. If Kelly is added in and we do you guys a favor by taking him on, I imagine we'd either get more cash, or another 2nd. I think that's about the extent of the Indy side.

Last news I saw was that the Pacers were sending cash to LA in the deal to cover the trade kicker (couple million $$). So yeah, they do seem ready to do whatever it takes to move him on to his next home.

Cash was reported to us. We have to pay the trade kicker in cash at the time of the deal. LA just has to fit Hibbert's higher salary cap number (the trade kicker gets added on to the Lakers cap, even though Indy has to pay it), and that's where LA is worried and trying to dump additional salary.

Initial reports had LA sending us the $2.325m in cash, so that we essentially were just trading Hibbert for a 2nd.

[xBulletproof]

I don't agree with this stupid mindset Bird has. Trash a guy and try to trade him when his value is low. Like, why?

Hibbert doesn't want to be here. I think that's a pretty good reason. All signs point to that, clearly.

Besides that we are getting Stuckey+whatever else we use the cap space on for Hibbert. Not just a 2nd.

[Indy4Life]

Looks like DJordan may be heading back to the Clippers...wonder if there is a last minute push for Hibbert to the Mavs.

[mikepacernation]

Looks like DJordan may be heading back to the Clippers...wonder if there is a last minute push for Hibbert to the Mavs.

I'm thinking if DJ goes back to LA the lakers an mavs will get into a bidding war hibbert.


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[chatard5]

The Mavs clearly wanted him as a back-up for DeAndre. Think they try and steal him away in a trade with the Lakers? The Celtics own the Mavs pick top 7 protected. And Cuban doesn't want to lose anyway. I'm sure he will overpay a couple players. Hopefully he gives too much value to a guy like Hibbert, too.

Hopefully Cuban doesn't decide he wants Monta back. But it sounds like Carlisle wanted him out. I'd rather do a S&T if we could. Maybe have a few more bucks to spend. Or a 3-way deal where the Mavs get Jordan Hill? Hibbert to Lakers, Monta to Cers, Hill to Mavs along with filler where needed and picks moved. It might need to be 2 different trades.

[mikepacernation]

The Mavs clearly wanted him as a back-up for DeAndre. Think they try and steal him away in a trade with the Lakers? The Celtics own the Mavs pick top 7 protected. And Cuban doesn't want to lose anyway. I'm sure he will overpay a couple players. Hopefully he gives too much value to a guy like Hibbert, too.

Hopefully Cuban doesn't decide he wants Monta back. But it sounds like Carlisle wanted him out. I'd rather do a S&T if we could. Maybe have a few more bucks to spend. Or a 3-way deal where the Mavs get Jordan Hill? Hibbert to Lakers, Monta to Cers, Hill to Mavs along with filler where needed and picks moved. It might need to be 2 different trades.

I think the Lakers could offer more with picks an stuff. With the mavs though they could take hibberts contract without us having to take back right?

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[Indy4Life]

If we want to deal with the Mavs, we simply make it a S&T for Ellis to make the contracts work...just a matter of what else they throw in to make the Pacers choose the trade with Dallas over LA. I think we stick with the LA trade...possibly get a little more out of Hibbert tho with the threat of Dallas getting involved.

[MNPacersfan]

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2015/07/pacers-lakers-close-to-hibbert-trade.html
JULY 9TH, 10:20am: The trade is on track to be finalized today, with the Lakers planning on sending a future second-round pick and cash to the Pacers, tweets Jeff Zillgitt of USA Today.

[So Gutta]

I didn't even think Larry Bird would do business with us based on his history against the Lakers!

Maybe he thinks he's actually hurting the Lakers by trading him there! I'm fine with the risk from our side. We are desperate for rim protection. Good luck with the future second round pick.

[Indy4Life]

It is a decent deal for us in the fact that we cleared the cap space.

Effectively we will be trading Hibbert for Stuckey-Hill-back-up point and a 2nd round pick. Not great value, but we didn't have to eat a bad contract to move him.

[Scoot McGroot]

I didn't even think Larry Bird would do business with us based on his history against the Lakers!

Maybe he thinks he's actually hurting the Lakers by trading him there! I'm fine with the risk from our side. We are desperate for rim protection. Good luck with the future second round pick.

Nah. It was just one of those things where it was in everyone's best interest for a change of scenery, and we really wanted to clear some space to keep Stuckey and add another mobile big man. Here, we did that in adding Jordan Hill, kept Stuckey, likely still have room for a vet backup PG, and got a 2nd for our troubles. Not amazing, but it helped.