DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

[AirP.]

It wasn't nearly this big, he was a "good" player at the time. Somewhat the same but way different impact.

Elton Brand, McDyess, Kidd, Boozer... it has happened quite a few times actually, I guess younger kids don't remember, but no need to claim the sky is falling.
It's still a bad look for all involved, I agree.

Yes us young kids, hard to believe I went to some Kansas City Kings games as a kid.

The internet and social media has changed everything, might want to toss in a new NBA commissionaire into the equation of things change in the NBA also. Donald Sterling didn't just turn into a dirt bag recently, he just happened to have a story come out during the social media era.

Times are a changing...

[ChargerMan]

I want this to happen just to see what the fallout would be... lol.

It would be the same fallout that occurred when Brand went back on his verbal commitment and signed with the 76'ers...absolutely nothing.

[Texas Chuck]

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[PaulieWal]

Are there any news, or just people speculating?

Could someone sum up this thread without having to read all the way through it?

No, this is real. Not speculation.

DJ is having doubts about his decision to go to Dallas and is meeting with the Clippers today to give them another chance. He's the one who initiated this process and now reports are that he will give Dallas one more meeting as well. Right now many credible reporters like Stein and Shelburne are reporting that he's likely to stay with LAC now.

[bran muffin]

Tanking implies that a team takes a dive on purpose. The Mavericks can't be accused of tanking, no matter how 2015 unfolds.

Well I think we can keep Matthews off the court for quite some time. Parsons too. Then everyone else can play as hard as they want. We won't win many games at all.

At this point, I'm not sure the Mavs will need to tank to secure themselves a top pick.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

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[gustofwind]

If Chandler Parsons were a turtle.

Just start free agency after the numbers are released. Makes much more sense.

Exactly what I was thinking. If the league really needs a week to crunch the numbers, then just say "free agency opens July 9th; no negotiations before then".

I'm not privy to how the NHL makes their calculations but their FA period opens July 1st and all signings can be official as of that date.

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[Cammo101]

Count me in the group that thinks this is a d-bag move by Jordan, but not some crazy loophole the NBA needs to fix. Free agency starts when it starts, what happens before that is out of their hands. Jordan being a wishy-washy child isn't the NBA's problem.

[JamesConway]

Can't say how bad I'd feel for Dirk. He just doesn't deserve stuff like this. This might even cause him to consider retirement There's no way we can get out of this mess now that basically every significant FA has signed somewhere

[clippertown]

Can someone explain to he how DJ broke a "verbal" contract with Dallas when there was a moratorium on all deals? If it can't be signed, how can a verbal deal have any legal merit? It seems DJ made a promise but in no way was that a legal contract. In some ways, the moratorium may be there to prevent players being bullied by their agents and friends (some of them are pretty young).

[Jack_Tretton]

Also this is the first time I am hearing about the Elton Brand situation. If this is true, the 76ers got what they deserved. Ugh the "Philly Max" ended up getting amnestied. lol

[Ponchos]

Gotta say I love the 'I don't get it' line when referring to Dallas and general fans' outrage.. yeah you do. Just embrace your contrarian take already. What DJ did (or might do, whatever) screwed a franchise. It's legal but a really crappy thing to do. If someone legitimately doesn't get that, I feel for their friends and family. If they have them. I don't get why they would though..

I get the Dallas fan's rage at DJ if he backs out. I don't get all the "NBA has no integrity"! "This ruins free agency"! "Nobody will talk to DJ again!" And lots of other nonsensical crap spewed in this thread.

That's fair. But the complaints are legitimate, don't you think? (About DJ flip flopping in slow motion)

Maybe? I wasn't there in the room when the Mav's players and executives were wooing DJ, perhaps they filled his feeble mind with delusions of grandeur. Hell, Cuban publicly said he views DJ as a franchise cornerstone and a player similar to Shaq. I'm sure he said that garbage to DJ to pump him up and make him feel loved.

It's pretty clear to me it wasn't an analytical presentation based on basketball and logic. It was an emotional appeal, and the thing about emotional appeals is they don't last.

I think it's safe to say DJ is indecisive and emotionally fragile. If you want to hate on him for that because he (maybe) spurned the Mav's then so be it.

[bran muffin]

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The Mavs are a class organization. If DeAndre leaves, and I expect that they'll give Wesley Matthews the $64M contract he turned down from the Kings.

[The Prodigy]

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Jordan wins biggest douche. Dude's a born winner.

[Train Wreck]

I don't condone this, but nothing really happened to Utah and Boozer when they screwed the Cavs.

What Boozer did was far worse than this too.

Loozer weaseled his way out of a contract that was very favorable to the Cavs because he wanted to get paid sooner. He had an "understanding" with the Cavs that he would re-sign with them for the MLE even though it was known that another team with cap space could offer him more.

DeAndre at worst has changed his mind. That's not what I'd call morally repugnant like what Loozer did, but legally it would appear that he entered a verbal contract with the Mavericks, and if he walks away from it, he could be sued for damages. Loozer, otoh, was not permitted by the CBA to enter in to any sort of binding agreement with the Cavaliers.

The Cavs were greedy and foolish in that situation. They could only offer him the MLE and Boozer was going to get double that. They were hoping to get him locked up at below market rate for a long time. Should have been able to see that one coming.

[Texas Chuck]

It's pretty clear to me it wasn't an analytical presentation based on basketball and logic. It was an emotional appeal, and the thing about emotional appeals is they don't last.

Except for the tiny detail of this being completely wrong, sure.

[JDizzel3000]

See, this is why the moratorium is a mindbogglingly stupid idea.

You guys keep complaining but it really doesn't matter ....if you didn't have a moratorium what would that ACTAULLY change? All that would happen is you'd have guys taking even LONGER to agree to terms with a team because they would understand that their decision is final ...and if it's a really good player all that's going to do is hold up the process for other players while that guy makes his mid up ...it wouldn't really change anything ...honestly even if you agree to a contract it still wouldn't mean much under the cba until you signed ..so if a guy like this mental midget Deandre Jordan wanted to have another diva escapade he still could

[GuyverX]

Funny how most Clippers fans here now think that DJ is great and is a "Franchise player" when you were all singing a different turn just a few hours ago.

Get out of here. Um, no, I don't think any Clipper fan has called him a "franchise player" in this entire 40+ page thread. He's a valuable piece for the Clippers as he fills their biggest hole at center and they are doing whatever it takes to take him away from Dallas. But in no way, shape, or form is he the franchise player. This is as much a move to keep Griffin and Paul around in a couple years as much as signing Jordan this year. His contract is just a necessity because Javale McGee is the best it's going to get otherwise.

The only person who think DJ is a franchise guy to build around is Mark Cuban and delusional Mavs fans.

[Ponchos]

It's pretty clear to me it wasn't an analytical presentation based on basketball and logic. It was an emotional appeal, and the thing about emotional appeals is they don't last.

Except for the tiny detail of this being completely wrong, sure.

How so?

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Why does it seem that Fegan's clients are the one that give teams such headaches?
Yes, I am thinking about the Howard fiasco.