DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

[gustofwind]

Clips fans not looking good in here. Just be happy that your boy pulled a Benedict Arnold on the Mavs, but don't try to defend/rationalize it. Makes you look just as bad as him, believe me.

I disagree and feel Clippers fans have a right to disagree also.

[jbk1234]

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If true, we now have full reasoning to be pissed at the organization as well as DJ.

If true, the Clippers failed to close the deal and this is over already. They aren't going to physically keep Jordan from meeting with Cuban. Jordan's agent is going to walk into the room and tell them to:

[QRich3]

This exact thing has never happened before. No player has ever been offered a max contract, accepted, and then changed his mind. Turkalo, who was hardly a franchise player, is the one player I know of who ever gave a team an explicit oral commitment and backed out. If this type of conduct was common, then no player, agent or team would trust a hand shake agreement and the current system would break down. The new rule would be that no agreement means anything until it's in writing. Players would eventually get burned by that approach.

Yes, yes they have, unless you want to get caught up in the max contract part. Bigger impact players than DJ did exactly this. Brand recruited Baron Davis who we proceeded to give a monstrous contract to, just before he was convinced by his agent David Falk that he'd be better in Philly. Go a few pages back and it's explained how McDyess did the same exact thing to Denver. And there's a few more like this that I won't bother to recount.

Even if any of those players were of the same quality as Jordan, you're talking about four times, league wide, in over a decade. That's not common. Look, eventually a team is going to do this to a player and all hell will break lose. Some team that already has trouble attracting FAs will agree to overpay some middling player, or declining veteran, a better player will become available and that team will bail in its commitment. Because really whats the downside for a team that already struggles attracting quality FAs if they're presented with a once in a decade opportunity? Those hand shake agreements are honored for a reason.

Oh of course it's not common, and I'll be the first to tell you Deandre is a bitch and Doc is a moron for letting it come to this and not having any plan B whatsoever. What you were getting at though, is that this would change the rules and the way the deals are made, and I'm saying it probably won't. Both Brand and McDyess were better players at the time than Deandre is now.

[Texas Chuck]

Loll if someone changed their mind like this on the Kings, you folks would be having a field day. "Zomg so embarrassing! Vikek! Haha"!

yeah its like people are ignoring this because its the Clippers. #notaboutyourightnow

[Jordan45822]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
I hear the Mavericks are not optimistic about the DeAndre situation

[ufsports]

Since all these meetings are going on in Houston, why doesn't Morey just try his luck and go talk to DeAndre as well and see if he's interested in backing up Dwight to form the best center tandem in the NBA.

Seeing how mentally weak Deandre is, can't hurt to try.

Pat Riley should go to. He'd be great insurance in case Whiteside leaves

[PaulieWal]

I've backed out of accepting a job twice, no one really cares. Counter offers are normal.

If the companies rearranged their entire priorities and personnel based on your acceptance, you'd be a punk too.

Not sure if they did that or not, but doing that based on a verbal commitment is really dumb. In real world the percentage of people who accept counter offers is actually quite high, no one should think they've hired someone until they show up for work.

In the real world most of us don't give verbal commitments to employers and then back out. That's not a good look or an acceptable practice. Once you get an offer from a company you are under no obligation to verbally accept the offer. In most cases you are given some time to accept or reject the offer.

[jbk1234]

The biggest loser here is Parsons. He was going to be in charge of sales for all of Cuban's holdings. Too bad he forget the first rule of sales: Always Be Closing

DeAndre really should have spent the last five days touring the various gentlemen's clubs in Texas with Parsons as the tour guide. That's all anyone from that state talks about.

[Texas Chuck]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
I hear the Mavericks are not optimistic about the DeAndre situation

don't get too far out on a ledge there Eric.

[MartinToVaught]

Loll if someone changed their mind like this on the Kings, you folks would be having a field day. "Zomg so embarrassing! Vikek! Haha"!

Most of the comments on this thread are about how pathetic the Clippers organization is and how they should lose draft picks and get fined, but yeah, feel free to ignore that I guess.

[Deus]

I think DJ wanted to hear begging from Rivers and CP3. "Please please come back D!"

"No."

[IggyStardust]

No, they're legally binding, but the league has their own rules and the owners don't tend to take their business to the legal system. As for Sterling, it's not clear that Brand ever committed to signing with the Clippers.

there was no contract bruh.

A verbal contract is a legally binding contract. Whether either of the parties choose to pursue that fact in the legal system, is another matter; but the key isn't whether Jordan tweeted about it, the key is whether he and the Mavs made a verbal agreement, and whether that can be proven in a court of law.

there is no contract antecedent to the law's recognition of it; if anything, Mavs and DA had unenforceable agreement.

there will be no contract for one or more of the following: failure to have a written instrument (statute of frauds), contract stipulations of the CBA which preclude contracting during the moratorium, inability to have consideration of a contract be assent to a future contract.

a promise is the same thing as a verbal commitment and certainly can be legally binding.

i really doubt there would be any claim for promissory estoppel. the mavericks are a shrewd business organization, negotiating huge deals, and operate under a set of rules which preclude legal enforcement. there's really no way they can claim reliance.

[Lord Cuban]

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[clippertown]

Who would have thought the NBA fight of the decade would be over DeAndre Jordan? Its like the twilight zone.

[Texas Chuck]

Clips fans not looking good in here. Just be happy that your boy pulled a Benedict Arnold on the Mavs, but don't try to defend/rationalize it. Makes you look just as bad as him, believe me.

I disagree and feel Clippers fans have a right to disagree also.

To be fair lots of Clippers fans are acknowledging this situation sucks and they aren't thrilled about how its going down. But in the end its hard for any of us to not attempt to justify that which benefits us. I know I'd be a hypocrite if I said any different.

[RSP83]

Clips is pretty cruel in doing this. But Deandre should man up and move on. He's made a professional decision, and he should be professional about it.

[JeepCSC]

Eric Pincus @EricPincus
I hear the Mavericks are not optimistic about the DeAndre situation

They shouldn't be optimistic. This was pretty much over the moment Jordan called Doc and Doc answered. That was the hard part. The rest of this has just been one long kabuki dance as the two sides try to find the right pr way to handle this. Spoiler alert: they don't find it.

[sogood]

Holy crap. Clippers show some class.

[Ugly0598]

I love how everybody on Twitter is going nuts over DeAndre "I can't even play in the 4th with my FT shooting" Jordan.

[ChargerMan]

I think he's more referring to if this happened to a FA we tried to sign MTV