DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

Catchall · Post #1101 » by **Catchall** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:46 pm

If the Clips lose DAJ and have nothing at center, the Clips might drop to a low PO seed or out of the POs altogether. CP3 and Blake get testy. Doc might get fired as a GM. Things could fall apart there quickly.

N8N · Post #1102 » by **N8N** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:46 pm

DeandreJordan wrote:This ain't happening

It's okay, you can go back bro.

We'll just wait for Dirk Junior to declare for the draft.

Post #1103 » by **jbk1234** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:46 pm

BBall Loyalty wrote:
Dirk Nowitzki wrote:Watch the Mavs sign Bruce Bowen to 10 day contracts when they face the Clippers next season.

Dellavadova's a free agent....

He's restricted. If Dallas wants to throw an offer sheet at a Cavs player, please make it Tristan.

ChargerMan · Post #1104 » by **ChargerMan** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:47 pm

Rafael122 wrote:I don't see the benefits of this to be honest, for the Clippers. Yeah it keeps their best rim protector in town, but this is going to be their team for the next 2 years or so. An aging Chris Paul, and a 2nd round playoff exit. You can make the argument they're better off being a lottery team, adding a young piece in the draft and see what they can do with the cap space next offseason. Jordan coming back effectively takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes.

Clippers were 1 game away from the WCF with their PG missing 2 games in the series, so far the moves they made in the offseason have improved their bench which was their biggest weakness last year.

GuyverX · Post #1105 » by **GuyverX** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:48 pm

smokeylarue wrote:Deandre comfortable being the 3rd guy for the rest of his career.

Rather than being a disappointment as the #1 option who can't be the focal point of an offense or create his own shot? The reason why he probably had second thoughts about all this is the realization that Cuban was blowing smoke up his ass with the "Shaq-like" comparisons. That and the fact he publicly stated Dallas was going into tank mode if they didn't get him. That doesn't sound like a winning team.

SK21209 · Post #1106 » by **SK21209** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:48 pm

Rafael122 wrote:I don't see the benefits of this to be honest, for the Clippers. Yeah it keeps their best rim protector in town, but this is going to be their team for the next 2 years or so. An aging Chris Paul, and a 2nd round playoff exit. You can make the argument they're better off being a lottery team, adding a young piece in the draft and see what they can do with the cap space next offseason. Jordan coming back effectively takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes.

They were likely the 2nd best team in the league last year. They have the POTENTIAL to knock of GSW, SA, or OKC in the West. I'm well aware of CP3's inability to get past the 2nd round thus far but they have the talent to win the whole thing IMO. And there's no way a team with CP3 and Blake relatively healthy is in the lottery. Two-thirds or more of the league will have the cap space to make a run at Durant next year, I don't think that should factor into their present day decision making process. And next year's free agency class is pretty light after KD

RussellandFlow · Post #1107 » by **RussellandFlow** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:48 pm

You're going to compare a a guy knocking his fiance out to this situation? Go home you're drunk.

JeepCSC · Post #1108 » by **JeepCSC** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:49 pm

G35 wrote:I don't get all the crying. Until he signs a contract he can do as he pleases...I thought that was the whole point of FA.

This is just like sports, no one cares what you do as long as you win. Winning means closing the deal, Dallas did not close the deal. Deandre can do whatever he likes, there is no "fairness" in free agency......

It's not illegal. That doesn't make it kosher when you halfheartedly make a decision that has a ripple effect on the rest of free agency, particularly because there was no reason for Jordan to have announced a decision when he did. Lebron's Indecision 2010/2014 looks like a masterclass of pr genius in retrospect.

MartinToVaught · Post #1109 » by **MartinToVaught** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:50 pm

Rafael122 wrote:I don't see the benefits of this to be honest, for the Clippers. Yeah it keeps their best rim protector in town, but this is going to be their team for the next 2 years or so. An aging Chris Paul, and a 2nd round playoff exit. You can make the argument they're better off being a lottery team, adding a young piece in the draft and see what they can do with the cap space next offseason. Jordan coming back effectively takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes.

I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have a GM/coach who's incapable of thinking more than five minutes ahead. This is a short-term move that will absolutely screw us for the next five years and probably longer. Hope the second-round exits are worth it for DJ, Doc, and all the fans who wanted DJ back.

inescape · Post #1110 » by **inescape** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:53 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:I don't see the benefits of this to be honest, for the Clippers. Yeah it keeps their best rim protector in town, but this is going to be their team for the next 2 years or so. An aging Chris Paul, and a 2nd round playoff exit. You can make the argument they're better off being a lottery team, adding a young piece in the draft and see what they can do with the cap space next offseason. Jordan coming back effectively takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes.

I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have a GM/coach who's incapable of thinking more than five minutes ahead. This is a short-term move that will absolutely screw us for the next five years and probably longer. Hope the second-round exits are worth it for DJ, Doc, and all the fans who wanted DJ back.

A bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. Or something like that. You sign DJ if you can.

GuyverX · Post #1111 » by **GuyverX** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:54 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:I don't see the benefits of this to be honest, for the Clippers. Yeah it keeps their best rim protector in town, but this is going to be their team for the next 2 years or so. An aging Chris Paul, and a 2nd round playoff exit. You can make the argument they're better off being a lottery team, adding a young piece in the draft and see what they can do with the cap space next offseason. Jordan coming back effectively takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes.

I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have a GM/coach who's incapable of thinking more than five minutes ahead. This is a short-term move that will absolutely screw us for the next five years and probably longer. Hope the second-round exits are worth it for DJ, Doc, and all the fans who wanted DJ back.

Look at it this way...more incentive for Griffin to come back in 2 years with his best friend still there, locked up. If the team is still in title contention, I like our chances. Even if you're not a fan of DJ, surely you can see that at the very least.

MartinToVaught · Post #1112 » by **MartinToVaught** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:55 pm

inescape wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:
Rafael122 wrote:I don't see the benefits of this to be honest, for the Clippers. Yeah it keeps their best rim protector in town, but this is going to be their team for the next 2 years or so. An aging Chris Paul, and a 2nd round playoff exit. You can make the argument they're better off being a lottery team, adding a young piece in the draft and see what they can do with the cap space next offseason. Jordan coming back effectively takes them out of the Durant sweepstakes.

I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have a GM/coach who's incapable of thinking more than five minutes ahead. This is a short-term move that will absolutely screw us for the next five years and probably longer. Hope the second-round exits are worth it for DJ, Doc, and all the fans who wanted DJ back.

A bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. Or something like that. You sign DJ if you can.

"A bird in the hand" has led to nothing but early playoff exits and isn't worth the max. "2 in the bush" at least gives us hope.

G35 · Post #1113 » by **G35** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:56 pm

JeepCSC wrote:
G35 wrote:I don't get all the crying. Until he signs a contract he can do as he pleases...I thought that was the whole point of FA.

This is just like sports, no one cares what you do as long as you win. Winning means closing the deal, Dallas did not close the deal. Deandre can do whatever he likes, there is no "fairness" in free agency......

It's not illegal. That doesn't make it kosher when you halfheartedly make a decision that has a ripple effect on the rest of free agency, particularly because there was no reason for Jordan to have announced a decision when he did. Lebron's Indecision 2010/2014 looks like a masterclass of pr genius in retrospect.

That's all that matters. It seems like people are getting butt hurt over how people are "suppose" to act in FA. You aren't suppose to hold teams hostage either to see if they are going to acquire more talent.

This is no different than a woman changing her mind over who she wants to go out with or even who she wants to marry. If you have second thoughts, it's your life and DJ is the one who has to live with the aftermath. Honestly, Lebron is loved all over again in CLE after he played all those mind games and he knew he was leaving. Deandre is having his moment in the sun, so this is a minor blip in the FA landscape imo......

N8N · Post #1114 » by **N8N** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:57 pm

heatwillbeback wrote:
Chuck Texas wrote:
heatwillbeback wrote:Well his agent would get a lot more money out of it if Deandre stays. Why are we sure his agent would try to stop him if he wants to reverse his decision?

It would hurt DA's and the Clippers reputations. Not the agents.

You really couldn't be more wrong. Fegan would get killed over this. Especially when you consider his history with the Mavericks organization.

But he would have to immediately dump Jordan as a client and even then he's going to have a very difficult time convincing teams he had nothing to do with this. Will absolutely hurt him.

If Jordan signs with Clippers, expect Fegan to immediately announce he dropped him. He'd have no other recourse.

I am unaware of Fegans history with the Mavericks.

I just don't know how somebody would jump on an agent for fulfilling his contractual duties. His client may make a stupid classless decision but it's his job to implement it.

One report came out saying the Clippers bypassed DJ's agent. Chuck's just saying he will take a lot of heat if it happens and the only way to distance himself from all of that would be to drop DJ.

Post #1115 » by **INKtastic** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:58 pm

PCProductions wrote:
Aderito wrote:if a player changes his mind on his own that's fine. The problem with this situation is the Clippers aggressively trying to get Jordan to change his mind. This would set a very dangerous precedent for the league if owners feel empowered to F over each other after a player announces his decision. A definite breach of ethics.

The rules are probably being rewritten as we speak. This is only the inevitable result of this whole moratorium thing.

I'm pretty sure the rules can't be rewritten until the next CBA is negotiated.

ratrac · Post #1116 » by **ratrac** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:58 pm

*tinfoil hat on*
Paul convinced LeBron to come over to the Clippers next offseason while they were in the Bahamas, word got around, DJ heard and doesn't want to miss the new superteam.
*tinfoil hat off*

ShowYaLuv25 · Post #1117 » by **ShowYaLuv25** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:59 pm

If DJ ends up leaving the Mavs the dude is a class A clown.

Post #1118 » by **Slava** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:59 pm

The air must be pretty thin beyond 7 ft if NBA centers are usually this dense.

wassuphomeboy · Post #1119 » by **wassuphomeboy** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 10:59 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
inescape wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:I completely agree. Unfortunately, we have a GM/coach who's incapable of thinking more than five minutes ahead. This is a short-term move that will absolutely screw us for the next five years and probably longer. Hope the second-round exits are worth it for DJ, Doc, and all the fans who wanted DJ back.

A bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. Or something like that. You sign DJ if you can.

"A bird in the hand" has led to nothing but early playoff exits and isn't worth the max. "2 in the bush" at least gives us hope.

There is a such thing as being unreasonably positive.....there is also a thing known as being unreasonably negative. Of course the West is stacked but if DJ comes back Clippers will be on the short list of contenders, which is about all you can ask for as a fan. Exiting in the second round again is a possibility as it is for any West contender but it will only be because the West is stacked, not because of any real or imagined shortcomings of the players.

Winsome Gerbil · Post #1120 » by **Winsome Gerbil** » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:00 pm

G35 wrote:I don't get all the crying. Until he signs a contract he can do as he pleases...I thought that was the whole point of FA.

This is just like sports, no one cares what you do as long as you win. Winning means closing the deal, Dallas did not close the deal. Deandre can do whatever he likes, there is no "fairness" in free agency......

There is always "fairness" in everything. Being a man of your word. In particular when people have depended on your word and your welching starts having long term spillover effects.

DeAndre's respect quotient is taking a major hit here no matter what his decision is at this point. Just an weak little spineless attention whore. Gotta wonder if is already shaky rep will ever fully recover. He truly is all flash and no substance.