DeAndre Jordan re-signs with the Clippers, DJ rescinds agreement with the Dallas Mavericks

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Post#1122 » by NoKneeBledsoe » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:05 pm

If you think this is fine u are an idiot!

Going back on your word not only makes u look back but mavericks held back from reaching out to other free agents because they signed u!

If he commits verbally then turns down they should fine him heavily
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Post#1123 » by Jedi32 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:06 pm

This will suck for Mavs fans if he really does back out. I don't buy that Jordan contacted the clippers. I think doc looked at it from a GM standpoint and seen there weren't any viable options available and then said "well technically we can still recruit Jordan because he can't sign anything until the 9th". So he's using one last effort to blitz Jordan and go all out. We'll know if it worked soon enough.
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Post#1124 » by SaintofKillers » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:08 pm

If they change the moratorium rule it would be awesome to name it after DeAndre.
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Post#1125 » by ChargerMan » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:08 pm

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:If you think this is fine u are an idiot!

Going back on your word not only makes u look back but mavericks held back from reaching out to other free agents because they signed u!

If he commits verbally then turns down they should fine him heavily


If you know your history you know this has happened before and not one player has ever been fined for it. Keep riding your high horse though.
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Post#1126 » by StojkoVrankovic » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:09 pm

The irony of a coach who forced his way out of Boston while under contract trying to get a player to break a verbal contract.
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Post#1127 » by G35 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:10 pm

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G35 wrote:I don't get all the crying. Until he signs a contract he can do as he pleases...I thought that was the whole point of FA.

This is just like sports, no one cares what you do as long as you win. Winning means closing the deal, Dallas did not close the deal. Deandre can do whatever he likes, there is no "fairness" in free agency......


There is always "fairness" in everything. Being a man of your word. In particular when people have depended on your word and your welching starts having long term spillover effects.

DeAndre's respect quotient is taking a major hit here no matter what his decision is at this point. Just an weak little spineless attention whore. Gotta wonder if is already shaky rep will ever fully recover. He truly is all flash and no substance.


Lebron's took a hit and he seemed to bounce back.

There are people who do very, very, bad things and in this country it seems as long as you are contrite people will give you a second chance. This is not as dire as people are making it seem, big boy pants......
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Post#1128 » by Jon1798 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:11 pm

You can't be fined of course. While all players are allowed to talk to other teams, no agreements can be legitimately made. That's why Mark Cuban and others can't even talk to the media about other players right now. Only when the moratorium ends can real agreements happen. Jordan can do whatever he wants, and quite honestly, he should do what he feels is best for him and no one else. It would suck for the Mavs no doubt, but this is an NBA rule issue and nothing else.
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Re: Clippers lobbying to change DeAndre Jordan's decision, CP3 & Co. to meet with DJ later today 

Post#1129 » by Texas Chuck » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:11 pm

This impacted a whole bunch of players. Hack-A-Jordan might be done with a little more umph this year. I imagine a lot of players are upset. This didn't just impact the Mavericks and the Clippers.
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Post#1130 » by MartinToVaught » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:11 pm

wassuphomeboy wrote:
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inescape wrote:
A bird in the hand is worth more than 2 in the bush. Or something like that. You sign DJ if you can.

"A bird in the hand" has led to nothing but early playoff exits and isn't worth the max. "2 in the bush" at least gives us hope.


There is a such thing as being unreasonably positive.....there is also a thing known as being unreasonably negative. Of course the West is stacked but if DJ comes back Clippers will be on the short list of contenders, which is about all you can ask for as a fan. Exiting in the second round again is a possibility as it is for any West contender but it will only be because the West is stacked, not because of any real or imagined shortcomings of the players.

Oh please. We've seen the Thunder and Warriors rise up and get to (and even win, in the Warriors' case) the Finals in less time than it's taken this team to get past the second round. The Harden Rockets have made the WCF more recently than the CP3/Blake/DJ Clippers... just think about that for a second. They had a 3-1 lead and couldn't do it. It isn't happening with this core, with the "Big Three" all making max money. And it's not because of a stacked conference or any other excuses, it's because the GM, coaches and players are not good enough. Bringing back DJ means overpaying for five more years of the same tired routine.

It's also harder to be okay with second-round exits when the team's history is as bad as it is. If we had a bunch of championship banners in the rafters, it would be easier to handle the playoff flameouts, but for the Clippers, it just feels like more failures piled on a long list of them.
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Post#1131 » by NoKneeBledsoe » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:12 pm

ChargerMan wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:If you think this is fine u are an idiot!

Going back on your word not only makes u look back but mavericks held back from reaching out to other free agents because they signed u!

If he commits verbally then turns down they should fine him heavily


If you know your history you know this has happened before and not one player has ever been fined for it. Keep riding your high horse though.



Yeah lol! Riding my high horse! Truth is I'm a fan of neither team but a fan on sticking to ur word!

Also who did it ? Carlos Boozer??? Nobody cares about him
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Post#1132 » by wassuphomeboy » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:14 pm

MartinToVaught wrote:
wassuphomeboy wrote:
MartinToVaught wrote:"A bird in the hand" has led to nothing but early playoff exits and isn't worth the max. "2 in the bush" at least gives us hope.


There is a such thing as being unreasonably positive.....there is also a thing known as being unreasonably negative. Of course the West is stacked but if DJ comes back Clippers will be on the short list of contenders, which is about all you can ask for as a fan. Exiting in the second round again is a possibility as it is for any West contender but it will only be because the West is stacked, not because of any real or imagined shortcomings of the players.

Oh please. We've seen the Thunder and Warriors rise up and get to (and even win, in the Warriors' case) the Finals in less time than it's taken this team to get past the second round. The Harden Rockets have made the WCF more recently than the CP3/Blake/DJ Clippers... just think about that for a second. They had a 3-1 lead and couldn't do it. It isn't happening with this core, with the "Big Three" all making max money. And it's not because of a stacked conference or any other excuses, it's because the GM, coaches and players are not good enough.

It's also harder to be okay with second-round exits when the team's history is as bad as it is. If we had a bunch of championship banners in the rafters, it would be easier to handle the playoff flameouts, but for the Clippers, it just feels like more failures piled on a long list of them.


The past is in the past lol. I am far from a fan with rose-colored goggles but if DJ does decide to come back, then the team has made significant and necessary upgrades everywhere in ways I haven't seen since CP3 joined the team. All we can do is hope for the best from here.
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Post#1133 » by tcheco » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:15 pm

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Post#1134 » by stock01234 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:16 pm

This is so unprofessional.

Two years back I was interviewing with multiple companies as I wanted to make a move. At the end of the day it was between company A & B. Company A gave me a offer letter right away. Company B said they are in process of sending me an offer letter.

After couple days when I still didn't receive the offer letter I called my HR rep @ Company B and said they I really like the position but I would need an offer at earliest as I already had offer from A. And I need to make a decision fast as it involved relocation and logistics. I had also informed them during the interview that I was also interviewing with Company A.

The HR rep said due to hiring VP being on vacation it is making longer than expected. About 10 days passed and I still didn't have offer letter. So I informed A that I have decided to accept their offer. Right away I also informed B about my decision. The HR rep said what a bad timing, as she was about to email the offer letter. And their total compensation was 10% better, (which I knew to begin with that this company B usually pays 10-15% better). But I said since I have already verbally committed to A, I can't back out. (I was supposed to sign finally paper work in 2-3 days). You know what she said, she is really impressed with my professionalism. And she really appreciated that I am sticking to my commitment, even if that meant they will have to scout for a another candidate going through hundreds of resumes.

In this case, it really bad on Jordan's part to even make it public that he is having second thoughts. Mavs made moves believing in Jordan's commitment. Just like Company A closed the req and informed other candidates that they have decided to hire me. If Jordan ends up going to Clippers, feel really sad for Mavs org and their fans.

Clippers as a org are also being unprofessional. They had their opportunity to recruit him. He was was playing for them. And now all of sudden try to change Jordan's decision. Doesn't matter if they didn't intiate it. Even if Jordan called Ballmer, CP3 and Rivers first, they are still persuading Jordan to backout of commitment.

Well what can you expect from a douche bag like Ballmer.
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Post#1135 » by BmanInBigD » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:17 pm

G35 wrote:
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G35 wrote:I don't get all the crying. Until he signs a contract he can do as he pleases...I thought that was the whole point of FA.

This is just like sports, no one cares what you do as long as you win. Winning means closing the deal, Dallas did not close the deal. Deandre can do whatever he likes, there is no "fairness" in free agency......

It's not illegal. That doesn't make it kosher when you halfheartedly make a decision that has a ripple effect on the rest of free agency, particularly because there was no reason for Jordan to have announced a decision when he did. Lebron's Indecision 2010/2014 looks like a masterclass of pr genius in retrospect.


That's all that matters. It seems like people are getting butt hurt over how people are "suppose" to act in FA. You aren't suppose to hold teams hostage either to see if they are going to acquire more talent.

This is no different than a woman changing her mind over who she wants to go out with or even who she wants to marry. If you have second thoughts, it's your life and DJ is the one who has to live with the aftermath. Honestly, Lebron is loved all over again in CLE after he played all those mind games and he knew he was leaving. Deandre is having his moment in the sun, so this is a minor blip in the FA landscape imo......


If you're gonna use a term like "supposed to" twice in one sentence, at least spell it correctly.

Secondly, this is nothing like changing your mind about whom to marry. This is a business arrangement that affects tons of people and tens, if not hundreds of millions, of dollars. Remind me to never do any business with you or your ilk. :nonono:
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Post#1137 » by Dirk » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:19 pm

stock01234 wrote:This is so unprofessional.

Two years back I was interviewing with multiple companies as I wanted to make a move. At the end of the day it was between company A & B. Company A gave me a offer letter right away. Company B said they are in process of sending me an offer letter.

After couple days when I still didn't receive the offer letter I called my HR rep @ Company B and said they I really like the position but I would need an offer at earliest as I already had offer from A. And I need to make a decision fast as it involved relocation and logistics. I had also informed them during the interview that I was also interviewing with Company A.

The HR rep said due to hiring VP being on vacation it is making longer than expected. About 10 days passed and I still didn't have offer letter. So I informed A that I have decided to accept their offer. Right away I also informed B about my decision. The HR rep said what a bad timing, as she was about to email the offer letter. And their total compensation was 10% better, (which I knew to begin with that this company B usually pays 10-15% better). But I said since I have already verbally committed to A, I can't back out. (I was supposed to sign finally paper work in 2-3 days). You know what she said, she is really impressed with my professionalism. And she really appreciated that I am sticking to my commitment, even if that meant they will have to scout for a another candidate going through hundreds of resumes.

In this case, it really bad on Jordan's part to even make it public that he is having second thoughts. Mavs made moves believing in Jordan's commitment. Just like Company A closed the req and informed other candidates that they have decided to hire me. If Jordan ends up going to Clippers, feel really sad for Mavs org and their fans.

Clippers as a org are also being unprofessional. They had their opportunity to recruit him. He was was playing for them. And now all of sudden try to change Jordan's decision. Doesn't matter if they didn't intiate it. Even if Jordan called Ballmer, CP3 and Rivers first, they are still persuading Jordan to backout of commitment.

Well what can you expect from a douche bag like Ballmer.


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Post#1138 » by SAKURABA216 » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:20 pm

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If Fegan ends up losing money I would he'd have a case to sue DeAndre too.


Deandre is the principal and Fegan the agent, the agent works on the behalf of the principal.

As the agent, Fegan owes Deandre several fiduciary duties, namely:

He must not place himself in a position where his own interests conflict with those of Jordan's or whether there is a real possibility that will happen (the 'no conflict' rule);

Fegan also must not profit from his position at the expense of the Jordan (the 'no profit' rule).

Pretty much, what Jordan wants comes first and Fegan can't act to protect his relationship with the Mavs if it means it will be at Jordan's expense. Fegan can't sue Jordan because he only has a right to his percentage of Jordan's salary that he is contractually entitled to and there is no indication that he won't get it no matter where Deandre plays.


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Post#1139 » by Ponchos » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:20 pm

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:
ChargerMan wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:If you think this is fine u are an idiot!

Going back on your word not only makes u look back but mavericks held back from reaching out to other free agents because they signed u!

If he commits verbally then turns down they should fine him heavily


If you know your history you know this has happened before and not one player has ever been fined for it. Keep riding your high horse though.



Yeah lol! Riding my high horse! Truth is I'm a fan of neither team but a fan on sticking to ur word!

Also who did it ? Carlos Boozer??? Nobody cares about him


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Post#1140 » by afox » Wed Jul 8, 2015 11:21 pm

NoKneeBledsoe wrote:
ChargerMan wrote:
NoKneeBledsoe wrote:If you think this is fine u are an idiot!

Going back on your word not only makes u look back but mavericks held back from reaching out to other free agents because they signed u!

If he commits verbally then turns down they should fine him heavily


If you know your history you know this has happened before and not one player has ever been fined for it. Keep riding your high horse though.



Yeah lol! Riding my high horse! Truth is I'm a fan of neither team but a fan on sticking to ur word!

Also who did it ? Carlos Boozer??? Nobody cares about him


And we know what he can do technically....but there is an unwritten rule in the NBA about verbal agreements...should be a rule change if this happens...Dallas hasn't made any other plans "just in case" ....messed up...

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