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[Blkbrd671]

Hmm. Supposedly the Clippers are trying to get Jordan to change his mind about joining Dallas.

That seems like a real breach in decorum and unwritten rules of the business, and something that will really damage the reputation of the agency if Jordan actually does a reversal.

Very interesting to see how that plays out.

while i agree from a "man of my word stand point". In business when your in demand, you have to do the best deal for you. Sure it may ruin your reputation, but in the end you'll be happy you made the decision you wanted. Until its on a contract its not finalized. Deals in place always get thrown off the table in business world. Part of the risk

[zeebneeb]

^True, but not to this level. Hedo was very good in his prime, but this is big time money between two contenders here.

In the very least this will be the end of the silly embargo/moratorium you can surely bet. Also Cuban wants to go full on tank mode - we should try for Chandler Parsons.

Well, he'll so would i. The question though, is what the hell are we going to have to give up in that deal? I'll throw a ton of picks, and whatnot, but no starters, or johnson.

[Snakebites]

Hmm. Supposedly the Clippers are trying to get Jordan to change his mind about joining Dallas.

That seems like a real breach in decorum and unwritten rules of the business, and something that will really damage the reputation of the agency if Jordan actually does a reversal.

Very interesting to see how that plays out.

while i agree from a "man of my word stand point". In business when your in demand, you have to do the best deal for you. Sure it may ruin your reputation, but in the end you'll be happy you made the decision you wanted. Until its on a contract its not finalized. Deals in place always get thrown off the table in business world. Part of the risk

From DeAndre's POV, that's absolutely true.

From an agency's point of view (which is what I was actually talking about, if you reread the post) this is a total disaster if it actually happens. If you're an agent, credibility and the relationships you have with players and teams are EVERYTHING. They'll drop DeAndre quickly just like Boozer's agency did when he bolted for the Jazz after the Cavs let him out of his tiny 2nd rounder deal with the plan to give him a better deal, and they'll do so in an attempt to save their reputation after a client of theirs reneged on a verbal agreement.

Time will tell what this does to the Clippers reputation. Agents may be reluctant to work with teams to get players there in the future if there is sufficient backlash.

[Blkbrd671]

From DeAndre's POV, that's absolutely true.

From an agency's point of view (which is what I was actually talking about, if you reread the post) this is a total disaster if it actually happens. If you're an agent, credibility and the relationships you have with players and teams are EVERYTHING. They'll drop DeAndre quickly just like Boozer's agency did when he bolted for the Jazz after the Cavs let him out of his tiny 2nd rounder deal with the plan to give him a better deal, and they'll do so in an attempt to save their reputation after a client of theirs reneged on a verbal agreement.

Time will tell what this does to the Clippers reputation. Agents may be reluctant to work with teams to get players there in the future if there is sufficient backlash.

While the agency does get blamed, i think ultimately DJ is the one responsible. Agents can't force their clients actions. What happen to Boozer's former agent? i highly doubt he was banned after his client went rogue.

[Piston Pete]

Wiretap says Jordan will now re-sign with the Clippers. Lol!

Bring on a Marcus Morris/Toliver/Granger to Dallas for Chandler Parsons trade.

[detroitKG]

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[Snakebites]

Lol, that's really messed up.

As I said, the Mavs presumed plan B's and C's already signed with other teams following the Jordan domino.

Some people will disagree, but I think this nonsense necessitates a change in policy for how these things are supposed to work. This sets up a very nasty precedent where verbal agreements no longer mean anything if nothing is changed now.

[Kilo]

If we get a Cleveland vs LAC finals - who in the hell am I supposed to cheer for? The end of the world?

[coordinator0]

Lol, that's really messed up.

As I said, the Mavs presumed plan B's and C's already signed with other teams following the Jordan domino.

Some people will disagree, but I think this nonsense necessitates a change in policy for how these things are supposed to work. This sets up a very nasty precedent where verbal agreements no longer mean anything if nothing is changed now.

The moratorium might be eliminated with the next CBA either by eliminating the "unofficial" start to free agency or pushing up the league's auditing a bit.

[Piston Pete]

If teams can talk to players July 1, they should be able to sign July 1 as well....that's how I think it SHOULD be.

Why the 9-day delay?? Makes no sense.

[DBC10]

I heard Carlisle might go away if the Mavs decide to tank now, since they literally don't even have a center now.

So DJ pulling that immature BS just killed a franchise. I hope Parsons somehow comes here, I think him and Dre know each other too.

[Kilo]

Lol, that's really messed up.

As I said, the Mavs presumed plan B's and C's already signed with other teams following the Jordan domino.

Some people will disagree, but I think this nonsense necessitates a change in policy for how these things are supposed to work. This sets up a very nasty precedent where verbal agreements no longer mean anything if nothing is changed now.

I agree, and I think Silver will make changes to placate Cuban the best he can - because Dallas was screwed. And as for precedent, what if players do this on purpose now - lead on a top rival team and fake commit to sign with them only to go back to their current team. I bet the players association (and President Chris Paul) would be up in arms if a team reneged on an agreed to deal - and now here is that same Chris Paul actively courting a player who had given his word to sign with a different team.

[Snakebites]

If teams can talk to players July 1, they should be able to sign July 1 as well....that's how I think it SHOULD be.

Why the 9-day delay?? Makes no sense.

The only way this system worked at all is because there was an unofficial rule that players were off limits once they had made a verbal agreement. If that's gone the system currently in place for free agents is broken.

Apparently Jordan won't even take calls from Mark Cuban or Chandler Parsons now. My god has my opinion of this guy gone through the floor.

And yes, Kilo, I agree that the reaction in general would be different if it was a team backing out of a deal. What if the Mavs had said "sorry, DeAndre, looks like Lemarcus wants to join us after all. I know we had an agreement but good luck." Now imagine that there's no teams left with cap space to offer Jordan a deal.

This is what that's like, but in reverse.

Awful, awful move.

[DBC10]

DJ is just a overiszed SF that can't play outside the restricted zone and rebounds.

He plays smaller than he is, that's why most analytics don't even consider him as a defensive stalwart as a player like Hibbert, M. Gasol, or last year's Noah. Clippers can keep the title of the most hated franchise now.

The rat race that went on today is shameful.

[DETermination]

They need to make it where you can officially sign contracts as soon as free agency starts

[MrBigShot]

Mavs got absolutely screwed. DeAndre's decision affected several other FAs (Matthews going to Dallas, Robin Lopez choosing NY over LA or Dallas ect...) so to back out after he'd already informed them of his decision is extremely, extremely unprofessional.

But on the other hand...I can't help but wonder what I might do in his situation. Either way he gets paid an insane amount of money, but the Clips have Blake who is well known to be one of the DeAndre's best friends, Doc who gave DeAndre a significant role and helped make him the player he is today, and it's been his home since he's been in the league.

Be a professional and remain secretly disappointed and wonder what could have been for 4 years...or be completely unprofessional but choose the place where your heart is set on? Staying true to his word is the right thing to do, but at the same time I do understand why did what he did.

[ComboGuardCity]

Mavs got absolutely screwed. DeAndre's decision affected several other FAs (Matthews going to Dallas, Robin Lopez choosing NY over LA or Dallas ect...) so to back out after he'd already informed them of his decision is extremely, extremely unprofessional.

But on the other hand...I can't help but wonder what I might do in his situation. Either way he gets paid an insane amount of money, but the Clips have Blake who is well known to be one of the DeAndre's best friends, Doc who gave DeAndre a significant role and helped make him the player he is today, and it's been his home since he's been in the league.

Be a professional and remain secretly disappointed and wonder what could have been for 4 years...or be completely unprofessional but choose the place where your heart is set on? Staying true to his word is the right thing to do, but at the same time I do understand why did what he did.

I would take all the time I needed to make the decision. He screwed up big time and his maturity is obviously not there.


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[dVs33]

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He's gone from $15 mil a season to 2.something to be a back up.
I feel bad for the guy. or at least as bad as i could feel for a guy getting paid millions to play basketball.

[dVs33]

If we get a Cleveland vs LAC finals - who in the hell am I supposed to cheer for? The end of the world?

Don't even say that.

[Snakebites]

Mavs got absolutely screwed. DeAndre's decision affected several other FAs (Matthews going to Dallas, Robin Lopez choosing NY over LA or Dallas ect...) so to back out after he'd already informed them of his decision is extremely, extremely unprofessional.

But on the other hand...I can't help but wonder what I might do in his situation. Either way he gets paid an insane amount of money, but the Clips have Blake who is well known to be one of the DeAndre's best friends, Doc who gave DeAndre a significant role and helped make him the player he is today, and it's been his home since he's been in the league.

Be a professional and remain secretly disappointed and wonder what could have been for 4 years...or be completely unprofessional but choose the place where your heart is set on? Staying true to his word is the right thing to do, but at the same time I do understand why did what he did.

All of those are reasons he should have signed with the Clippers in the first place. But once he'd committed to Dallas, that all changes. He screwed up royally.

I understand why he did what he did. I understand why people do all sorts of crummy things. Doesn't mean they aren't crummy.