OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

Post #881 » by **bondom34** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 8:10 pm

Franchises usually drool for players who are plus players as well.

kd 35 · Post #882 » by **kd 35** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 8:11 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/619224889891909632[/tweet]
[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/619225276602560512[/tweet]

:nonono:

Bravenewworld · Post #883 » by **Bravenewworld** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 8:25 pm

bondom34 wrote:Franchises usually drool for players who are plus players as well.

That's true. But its not an either or situation or even something that is a major factor, and many of you have seemed to convince yourselves that he does not hold the value he obviously does.

Post #884 » by **bondom34** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 8:30 pm

I still don't think he does. The only offer is from a division rival likly to tank.

Bravenewworld · Post #885 » by **Bravenewworld** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 8:38 pm

bondom34 wrote:I still don't think he does. The only offer is from a division rival likly to tank.

Its not the only offer, its the only offer sheet he has signed. Which is just financial leverage and something we knew would most likely happen.

mikenielsen · Post #886 » by **mikenielsen** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:10 pm

https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/619246851263311872/photo/1

Podirk · Post #887 » by **Podirk** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:17 pm

Per Darnell:

Sitting next to Sam Presti at summer league...Alex Abrines

spearsy23 · Post #888 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:19 pm

Bravenewworld wrote:We all knew this would happen and those of us with realistic expectations already figured he would sign a max or near max contract.
Sometimes i think some of you guys only want to see what you want. You focus too much on his defense and attempting to devalue him for us, that you fail to realize franchises drool for a guy who will put up 20-10 w/high percentages and in the post, in under 30min.

Some of us like players who help the team. We're strange like that.

jbent87 · Post #889 » by **jbent87** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:28 pm

Sooo... Perry Jones III and DJ Augustin for a 2019 2nd rounder then? You guys can keep Novak

Post #890 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:30 pm

jbent87 wrote:Sooo... Perry Jones III and DJ Augustin for a 2019 2nd rounder then? You guys can keep Novak

Jones yes. Augustin no. Not sure Cam's ready to run the show yet.

Balkman32 · Post #891 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:30 pm

jbent87 wrote:Sooo... Perry Jones III and DJ Augustin for a 2019 2nd rounder then? You guys can keep Novak

The Thunder don't have to make any moves now. They will wait till the Trade Deadline to make their cap moves for the Lux Tax.

Balkman32 · Post #892 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:33 pm

Podirk wrote:Per Darnell:

Sitting next to Sam Presti at summer league...Alex Abrines

That is very interesting.

Post #893 » by **Andre Roberstan** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:34 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
jbent87 wrote:Sooo... Perry Jones III and DJ Augustin for a 2019 2nd rounder then? You guys can keep Novak

The Thunder don't have to make any moves now. They will wait till the Trade Deadline to make their cap moves for the Lux Tax.

We have to open roster spots. We're at 15 before Payne if we re-sign Kanter.

Pillendreher · Post #894 » by **Pillendreher** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:34 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bball_ref/status/619246851263311872[/tweet]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/anthonyVslater/status/619239420378480640[/tweet]

Seems like Kanter desires to stay, but just for the maxium amount of money. :evil:

NaturalThunder · Post #895 » by **NaturalThunder** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:38 pm

So we'd try and deal Augustin after matching Kanter? I'm not sure I like that.

Bravenewworld · Post #896 » by **Bravenewworld** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:40 pm

spearsy23 wrote:
Bravenewworld wrote:We all knew this would happen and those of us with realistic expectations already figured he would sign a max or near max contract.
Sometimes i think some of you guys only want to see what you want. You focus too much on his defense and attempting to devalue him for us, that you fail to realize franchises drool for a guy who will put up 20-10 w/high percentages and in the post, in under 30min.

Some of us like players who help the team. We're strange like that.

Yah, because a 20-10 23 year old who is still developing and the entire league see's his value as a... nightmare for other teams if he signs with OKC, offers no value and the professionals are just "strange like that".
But hey, apparently a handful of people on message boards seem to understand nit picking a couple advanced statics more than those who developed said systems and are paid millions to come to the proper conclusions.

Bravenewworld · Post #897 » by **Bravenewworld** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:42 pm

NaturalThunder wrote:So we'd try and deal Augustin after matching Kanter? I'm not sure I like that.

I cant see us moving DJ until next season. This season they'll just take the hit on the cash issue. But i defeinitely see them trying to ditch PJ3, Novak and maybe Waiters. Waiters would probably come later on in the season though. He is an ideal 2/3 for Donovan.

siar617 · Post #898 » by **siar617** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:44 pm

Please trade PJ3 to Knicks we need young long players and 76ers are annoying

Podirk · Post #899 » by **Podirk** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:46 pm

Presti in a quote earlier said (per Slater over an hour ago...aka before the offer was received by Thunder):

"We haven't received an offer sheet as of yet. But our intention has been to match offers on Enes and nothing has changed in this regard. Enes expressed his desire to be a part of the Thunder in our meeting with him yesterday and we have plnas in advance should he receive an offer such as the one that has been reported.?

What is the plan?

Royce on ESPN earlier
http://espn.go.com/blog/okc-thunder/post/_/id/598/what-a-higher-salary-cap-means-for-the-thunder
Obviously Thunder want to get under the apron...so PJ, Novak and possibly Augustin or Waiters out...

Balkman32 · Post #900 » by **Balkman32** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 9:58 pm

The Thunder do not have to make ANY MOVES. Here is next years roster/ depth chart:

Kanter/ Adams/ Collison
Ibaka/ McGary/ NOvak
Durant/ Singler/ Jones
Waiters/ Morrow/ Roberson
Westbrook/ Augistin/ Payne