OKC Thunder Offseason 2015

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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#901 » by Bravenewworld » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:08 pm

Balkman32 wrote:The Thunder do not have to make ANY MOVES. Here is next years roster/ depth chart:

Kanter/ Adams/ Collison
Ibaka/ McGary/ NOvak
Durant/ Singler/ Jones
Waiters/ Morrow/ Roberson
Westbrook/ Augistin/ Payne


For cash purposes its something they might consider.
And realistically id like to see PJ go to another team. He deserves a year of high minutes and being a top 4 offensive focus. The guy has a great skill set, is very diverse and versatile. I think the guy could be role playing starter or sixth man material But he has hurt his situation with us and now that we have a more complete roster, most likely wont get said chances.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#902 » by Andre Roberstan » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:10 pm

Balkman32 wrote:The Thunder do not have to make ANY MOVES. Here is next years roster/ depth chart:

Kanter/ Adams/ Collison
Ibaka/ McGary/ NOvak
Durant/ Singler/ Jones
Waiters/ Morrow/ Roberson
Westbrook/ Augistin/ Payne


Huestis, and the extra roster spot Sam almost always keeps open.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#903 » by Podirk » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:16 pm

Balkman32 wrote:The Thunder do not have to make ANY MOVES. Here is next years roster/ depth chart:

Kanter/ Adams/ Collison
Ibaka/ McGary/ NOvak
Durant/ Singler/ Jones
Waiters/ Morrow/ Roberson
Westbrook/ Augistin/ Payne


Do they pay the 20+mill in tax for a year?
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#904 » by bondom34 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:22 pm

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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#905 » by Marcus50 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:48 pm

Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#906 » by Podirk » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:52 pm

Marcus50 wrote:Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track


Thunder has no way to sign big contracts in the future that aren't already on the roster. This allows them to trade Kanter down the road for a 2 guard, for example, that they couldn't otherwise get. Trade Kanter and sign Adams when the time comes. Easy peasy
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#907 » by Marcus50 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:54 pm

Balkman32 wrote:The Thunder do not have to make ANY MOVES. Here is next years roster/ depth chart:

Kanter/ Adams/ Collison
Ibaka/ McGary/ NOvak
Durant/ Singler/ Jones
Waiters/ Morrow/ Roberson
Westbrook/ Augistin/ Payne


Kanter/Adams/Collison
Ibaka/McGary/
Durant/Singler/Heustis
Roberson/Morrow
Westbrook/Payne/Christian

Kanter will have to start based on the contract alone, this forces Donovan to start Roberson to cover Kanters defense and he will be forced to dump Waiters/Augustin and Novak and keep the cheapest players he can in Heustis and Christian. Portland has seriously screwed OKC here. Call their Bluff and let Kanter play in Portland.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#908 » by Marcus50 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:56 pm

Podirk wrote:
Marcus50 wrote:Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track


Thunder has no way to sign big contracts in the future that aren't already on the roster. This allows them to trade Kanter down the road for a 2 guard, for example, that they couldn't otherwise get. Trade Kanter and sign Adams when the time comes. Easy peasy


Unless Kanter finds a defensive game who on earth is going to wear a 17.5m pa contract with a player option in 2 years. Pure insanity and very hard to trade even with the increase in the cap/tax level.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#909 » by Balkman32 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:56 pm

Podirk wrote:
Marcus50 wrote:Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track


Thunder has no way to sign big contracts in the future that aren't already on the roster. This allows them to trade Kanter down the road for a 2 guard, for example, that they couldn't otherwise get. Trade Kanter and sign Adams when the time comes. Easy peasy


I don't think Kanter will be here for long. Don't mess w/ Presti's cap. Portland will rue the day they messed w. OKC.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#910 » by Marcus50 » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:57 pm

Everyone in the league other than OKC will be pissing themselves over this
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#911 » by Podirk » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:58 pm

Marcus50 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Marcus50 wrote:Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track


Thunder has no way to sign big contracts in the future that aren't already on the roster. This allows them to trade Kanter down the road for a 2 guard, for example, that they couldn't otherwise get. Trade Kanter and sign Adams when the time comes. Easy peasy


Unless Kanter finds a defensive game who on earth is going to wear a 17.5m pa contract with a player option in 2 years. Pure insanity and very hard to trade even with the increase in the cap/tax level.


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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#912 » by Podirk » Thu Jul 9, 2015 10:59 pm

Balkman32 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Marcus50 wrote:Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track


Thunder has no way to sign big contracts in the future that aren't already on the roster. This allows them to trade Kanter down the road for a 2 guard, for example, that they couldn't otherwise get. Trade Kanter and sign Adams when the time comes. Easy peasy


I don't think Kanter will be here for long. Don't mess w/ Presti's cap. Portland will rue the day they messed w. OKC.


Exactly...there have been a few trade kicker contracts get traded recently..and there is always a team lookin for quick offense.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#913 » by Thunderhead » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:14 am

Balkman32 wrote:
Podirk wrote:
Marcus50 wrote:Portland have seriously screwed Presti here. The player option in the 4th being the killer. Its a toxic contract that essentially prevents OKC making a move to fill their greatest need being a 2 way SG without Presti giving up pieces that he really wants to keep. Kanter is not worth the max and it will be a very difficult contract to trade down the track unless Kanter finds a defensive game. If he does then OKC wants to keep him.

This puts OKC squarely in the top tier tax level. Jones, Novak are gone, and Presti may have to think of dumping Dion as well. Also I expect it shuts the door on resigning Adams down the track


Thunder has no way to sign big contracts in the future that aren't already on the roster. This allows them to trade Kanter down the road for a 2 guard, for example, that they couldn't otherwise get. Trade Kanter and sign Adams when the time comes. Easy peasy


I don't think Kanter will be here for long. Don't mess w/ Presti's cap. Portland will rue the day they messed w. OKC.


Can't trade Kanter for one year .
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#914 » by Thunderhead » Fri Jul 10, 2015 2:15 am

I really don't care if owners have to pay the tax, screw it , so they over pay Kanter ................ lets win , and win now ..
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#915 » by Soonerule » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:01 am

Bravenewworld wrote:We all knew this would happen and those of us with realistic expectations already figured he would sign a max or near max contract.
Sometimes i think some of you guys only want to see what you want. You focus too much on his defense and attempting to devalue him for us, that you fail to realize franchises drool for a guy who will put up 20-10 w/high percentages and in the post, in under 30min.


That's funny, I've always thought the same about fans so glamoured by Kanter's offense they totally ignore his pathetic effort on defense. You see what you want to see.

One thing for sure, if Kanter is on the Thunder sideline next season, it won't be boring.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#916 » by tleikheen » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:41 am

Sometimes i think some of you guys only want to see what you want. You focus too much on his defense and attempting to devalue him for us, that you fail to realize franchises drool for a guy who will put up 20-10 w/high percentages and in the post, in under 30min.


OHHHhh Myyyyy, alll those fancy stats about his defense against a 22 yr old kid who came into the League at 270 lbs manchild ,now listed at 245 lbs.A legit 20 pt /11 rebound center who loves playing in the paint.The West is about offense ,better have reliable offense.
I like Adams, but he doesn't have reliable hands or the footwork for Westbrooks passes on PNR. There is no 24 minutes/24 minutes split for Adams and Kanter. Or paying Kanter 17.5 million to come off the bench.
Kanter's stats like I said earlier are tossed out the window because he hasn't had a pre season to learn from one of the top defensive coaches in Adams.Team defense ,not one on one defense.
And don't come here saying their's not enough BB's to go around with Durant coming back ,Kanter avg 20 pts on 14 shots in the last 19 games when OKC was chasing the last playoff spot. And I've always seen Durant pass the ball and don't expect him to change ,Durant has seen Lebron make his team mates better...who wants to be a Carmelo ?
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Post#917 » by tleikheen » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:49 am

One thing for sure, if Kanter is on the Thunder sideline next season, it won't be boring.


and your posts all season will be hoping Kanter does poorly so you can say you told everybody so and hope Adams comes in to save the day

but too bad ,with Kanter OKC will probably be a high scoring /big rebounding team ,teams will have to match OKC not the other way around
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#918 » by bondom34 » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:57 am

Thunderhead wrote:I really don't care if owners have to pay the tax, screw it , so they over pay Kanter ................ lets win , and win now ..

I don't know if paying means winning though, thats the issue.
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#919 » by tleikheen » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:14 am

I don't know if paying means winning though, thats the issue.


be serious ,a team with a healthy Durant ,Westbrook ,Ibaka and Kanter starting ,not winning ,their probably going to be put up as one of the top 4 teams as favorites ...get real
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Re: OKC Thunder Offseason 2015 

Post#920 » by Soonerule » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:23 am

tleikheen wrote:
One thing for sure, if Kanter is on the Thunder sideline next season, it won't be boring.


and your posts all season will be hoping Kanter does poorly so you can say you told everybody so and hope Adams comes in to save the day

but too bad ,with Kanter OKC will probably be a high scoring /big rebounding team ,teams will have to match OKC not the other way around


See? I told you it wouldn't be boring and we have our first official mind reader here to prove it.

Now why would a Thunder fan root against the Thunder? I'm ready, willing and able to eat barbecued crow with extra spicy hot sauce and be thrilled to do it if I am wrong about Kanter. Why would I waste my time saying I told you so if I'm not wrong, will you need to be reminded? BTW, did you ever find out how many charges Kanter took during his time in Utah?

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