Suns Offseason Thread 3: Spurned for the Spurs

[thamadkant]

PG: Bledsoe / Goodwin / McNeal / Price
SG: Knight / Goodwin / Booker
SF: Weems / Warren
PF: Teletovic / Leuer
C: Chandler / Len

Fast, Slashing, 3pt shooting, rebounding.
Warriors-lite??

I still think Morris and Tucker are on the block.

And Goodwin will play PG, he played PG a lot in the second half of the season. He breaks down defenses easily. Like a Barbosa without the 3pt shooting but with dunking and drawing fouls instead.

Booker will be in the D-league heaps.
Outside of shooting he doesn't contribute yet... And Suns have 3 shooters now.

[bigfoot]

We don't have our superstar/Steph Curry player. Not even a Klay Thompson player.

Hmmm ... so Curry was deemed a superstar when he was drafted? No he was in the league for four years before he even made an all-star team (on his fifth year when he was 25. Not even considered a superstar until this year at 26.

But Devin Booker will be Klay 2.0 cauz he is light-skinned/mixed and Bled will suddenly turn into Westbrook Lite

Go to the Dubs site and be a fan there. Obviously you're a Suns hater.

[Ryu]

That feeling when your favorite player signs for your favorite team.

Priceless.

Mirza Teletovic?

Yup. He's from the same city as I am.

Mostar? That`s a nice city.

Pozdrav iz Niša, jarane.

[sunskerr]

:-o I think I get what you're saying.

Spoiler:

Sometimes you just wanna be the girl.

10/10 post you got me I have a huge man crush on Parsons.

But good news about Teletovic. And Len developing a 3 point shot could be amazing.

[saintEscaton]

Hmmm ... so Curry was deemed a superstar when he was drafted? No he was in the league for four years before he even made an all-star team (on his fifth year when he was 25. Not even considered a superstar until this year at 26.

But Devin Booker will be Klay 2.0 cauz he is light-skinned/mixed and Bled will suddenly turn into Westbrook Lite

Go to the Dubs site and be a fan there. Obviously you're a Suns hater.

That is weaksauce. So then who on this team has a realistic shot of even making an All Star team/All-NBA selection in the next couple of years. (Let alone be a franchise player). BKnight and Bled are going into their 5th and 6th years respectively and we are only hoping for an upward career trajectory to reach a pinnacle. Len has the most upside of our younin' and could very well become a near elite rim protector with a balanced offensive game. The ideal center to have as a complimentary piece in your youn core. But he would have to be Marc Gasolesque to be worthy of building around

[Revived]

In the presser today Chandler said the first step is getting to the playoffs. GSW didn't go from lottery picks to championship in one season.

We don't have our superstar/Steph Curry player. Not even a Klay Thompson player.

Hmmm ... so Curry was deemed a superstar when he was drafted? No he was in the league for four years before he even made an all-star team (on his fifth year when he was 25. Not even considered a superstar until this year at 26.

People knew Curry was an elite shooter and one of best at pulling up off dribble or off ball in the NBA after his first couple years in the NBA. Warriors knew that which is why they traded away Monta to let Curry run the team.

Bledsoe's been in the league 5 or 6 years now. Your out of your mind if you think he's developed as much or even close to how much Curry did after his first 5-6 years.

And no wtf, Curry's been a superstar for like the last 2-3 years.

[thamadkant]

I think Booker is closer to Kyle Korver/Reddick/Meeks than Thompson... Thompson is a big dude, listed at 6'6 but he is probably closer to 6'7, and elite ability to get his shot up.
Booker has a huge head as well, watching that Iguadala One on One match, Iguadala's physique (long arms, wide shoulders) just showed the type of defenders Booker will encounter. He wont get to score much one on one, he'll be set up a lot... he does have good IQ in that he will tend to bait defenders and then kick out to the open man. Something Suns lacked last 2 years.

[bwgood77]

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/618779655718469632[/tweet]

Doesn't seem to actually mean anything to me. Anyone know this guy's reputation?

Terrible

[bigfoot]

We don't have our superstar/Steph Curry player. Not even a Klay Thompson player.

Hmmm ... so Curry was deemed a superstar when he was drafted? No he was in the league for four years before he even made an all-star team (on his fifth year when he was 25. Not even considered a superstar until this year at 26.

People knew Curry was an elite shooter and one of best at pulling up off dribble or off ball in the NBA after his first couple years in the NBA. Warriors knew that which is why they traded away Monta to let Curry run the team.

Bledsoe's been in the league 5 or 6 years now. Your out of your mind if you think he's developed as much or even close to how much Curry did after his first 5-6 years.

And no wtf, Curry's been a superstar for like the last 2-3 years.

Did you see me say Bledsoe was as good as Curry. Nope ... I'll repeat what I said dingleberry ... GSW had to get into the playoffs before they could make a run at the NBA championship. Not sure how you managed to make that huge leap.

[RunDogGun]

In the presser today Chandler said the first step is getting to the playoffs. GSW didn't go from lottery picks to championship in one season.

We don't have our superstar/Steph Curry player. Not even a Klay Thompson player.

The Dubs actually knew how to rebuild through the draft and stuck with their youngins through the thick and thin. But hey if you can't beat 'em join 'em. Right Kerr?

But they actual rebuilt through all three ways, draft, trade, and FA. They didn't rebuild through just one. Their young guys got playing time because of shorten season, where many of their guys were injured.

[Revived]

Hmmm ... so Curry was deemed a superstar when he was drafted? No he was in the league for four years before he even made an all-star team (on his fifth year when he was 25. Not even considered a superstar until this year at 26.

People knew Curry was an elite shooter and one of best at pulling up off dribble or off ball in the NBA after his first couple years in the NBA. Warriors knew that which is why they traded away Monta to let Curry run the team.

Bledsoe's been in the league 5 or 6 years now. Your out of your mind if you think he's developed as much or even close to how much Curry did after his first 5-6 years.

And no wtf, Curry's been a superstar for like the last 2-3 years.

Did you see me say Bledsoe was as good as Curry. Nope ... I'll repeat what I said dingleberry ... GSW had to get into the playoffs before they could make a run at the NBA championship. Not sure how you managed to make that huge leap.

Difference is they had their superstar. For example, if you told a Twolves fan the same thing it would make sense because ok Andrew Wiggins is gonna be that superstar so they have the nucleus now it's just about developing around him and making playoffs and then progressing that way. IMO we're not there yet.

[bwgood77]

This new thing where Alex Len is draining threes is kind of awesome. Not that I want to turn him into Frye but the fact that he's added that weapon to his arsenal is kind of amazing. He has the potential to be a true inside-outside threat.

He's already shown he's a better defender and rim protector than Frye, so whether or not he can stretch on offense like Frye has no bearing on his defensive ability. A great defensive center with Frye's offense ability would be great, especially if he can also develop some good post moves, but he's already a good finisher....probably better than Frye ever was.

[thamadkant]

Suns were willing to trade Stoudemire for Curry... by Kerr/Sarver

Think about that for a minute...

Curry was considered Nash-like and potentially heir to Nash back then.
Saying he didnt become a star until now is also disregarding that he had 2 bad ankle injuries in his early days....

Curry was always going to be at minimum, a borderline star... even better than Bledsoe or Knight currently.

Now with the modern NBA the way it is... Curry and players like him are having/will have their golden era.

[saintEscaton]

I think Booker is closer to Kyle Korver/Reddick/Meeks than Thompson... Thompson is a big dude, listed at 6'6 but he is probably closer to 6'7, and elite ability to get his shot up.
Booker has a huge head as well, watching that Iguadala One on One match, Iguadala's physique (long arms, wide shoulders) just showed the type of defenders Booker will encounter. He wont get to score much one on one, he'll be set up a lot... he does have good IQ in that he will tend to bait defenders and then kick out to the open man. Something Suns lacked last 2 years.

On point

[bigfoot]

People knew Curry was an elite shooter and one of best at pulling up off dribble or off ball in the NBA after his first couple years in the NBA. Warriors knew that which is why they traded away Monta to let Curry run the team.

Bledsoe's been in the league 5 or 6 years now. Your out of your mind if you think he's developed as much or even close to how much Curry did after his first 5-6 years.

And no wtf, Curry's been a superstar for like the last 2-3 years.

Did you see me say Bledsoe was as good as Curry. Nope ... I'll repeat what I said dingleberry ... GSW had to get into the playoffs before they could make a run at the NBA championship. Not sure how you managed to make that huge leap.

Difference is they had their superstar. For example, if you told a Twolves fan the same thing it would make sense because ok Andrew Wiggins is gonna be that superstar so they have the nucleus now it's just about developing around him and making playoffs and then progressing that way. IMO we're not there yet.

Still ... Curry was not a superstar in his second, third, or fourth years. Superstars make the all-star game quickly win-or-lose. Folks like Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, LeBron made the all-star team their 1st or 2nd year out. No doubt, Curry is a superstar now but didn't make an all-star appearance until the Dubs made the playoffs.

[letsgosuns]

The Suns are finally building a team based around a defensive foundation. Probably the first time I remember that in franchise history. It is amazing to see. That is why I love the Chandler signing. Never before have the Suns had such strength at the center position. No more layups drills for opposing defenses. When Bledsoe or whoever else funnels their man to the middle, Chandler and/or Len will be there waiting to defend.

Unfortunately I see one glaring hole defensively in the starting lineup and that is Markieff. It is why I believe the Suns will trade him before the season. Too much has happened between him and the organization and he needs to be traded. I still do not know who could replace him but there has to be someone out there on a one year deal or through a trade that can take his place. I hope it happens soon.

[bigfoot]

People knew Curry was an elite shooter and one of best at pulling up off dribble or off ball in the NBA after his first couple years in the NBA. Warriors knew that which is why they traded away Monta to let Curry run the team.

Bledsoe's been in the league 5 or 6 years now. Your out of your mind if you think he's developed as much or even close to how much Curry did after his first 5-6 years.

And no wtf, Curry's been a superstar for like the last 2-3 years.

Did you see me say Bledsoe was as good as Curry. Nope ... I'll repeat what I said dingleberry ... GSW had to get into the playoffs before they could make a run at the NBA championship. Not sure how you managed to make that huge leap.

Difference is they had their superstar. For example, if you told a Twolves fan the same thing it would make sense because ok Andrew Wiggins is gonna be that superstar so they have the nucleus now it's just about developing around him and making playoffs and then progressing that way. IMO we're not there yet.

Also, you are discounting the possibility of Len or Warren or Bogdan or Booker stepping into that superstar role. Will it happen ... don't know. Seems as likely as Wiggins earning an all-star berth as a guard in the West with Curry, Thompson, Paul, Harden, Lillard and others way, way in front of him.

[NTB]

The Suns are finally building a team based around a defensive foundation. Probably the first time I remember that in franchise history. It is amazing to see. That is why I love the Chandler signing. Never before have the Suns had such strength at the center position. No more layups drills for opposing defenses. When Bledsoe or whoever else funnels their man to the middle, Chandler and/or Len will be there waiting to defend.

Unfortunately I see one glaring hole defensively in the starting lineup and that is Markieff. It is why I believe the Suns will trade him before the season. Too much has happened between him and the organization and he needs to be traded. I still do not know who could replace him but there has to be someone out there on a one year deal or through a trade that can take his place. I hope it happens soon.

%100 agreed. Definitely impressed with this defensive team. I don't remember this kind of defensive team in Suns history either.

[RaisingArizona]

The Suns are finally building a team based around a defensive foundation. Probably the first time I remember that in franchise history. It is amazing to see. That is why I love the Chandler signing. Never before have the Suns had such strength at the center position. No more layups drills for opposing defenses. When Bledsoe or whoever else funnels their man to the middle, Chandler and/or Len will be there waiting to defend.

Unfortunately I see one glaring hole defensively in the starting lineup and that is Markieff. It is why I believe the Suns will trade him before the season. Too much has happened between him and the organization and he needs to be traded. I still do not know who could replace him but there has to be someone out there on a one year deal or through a trade that can take his place. I hope it happens soon.

Christ, dude, take a break on the Markieff hate train wagon. He's not a bad defender by any stretch.

[thamadkant]

Davis wasnt a star in his first season either, he became a star in his 3rd year.
He is my current favourite player and always drafted him in fantasy leagues (outside RealGM Suns leagues as everyone is obsess with him too).
13/8/2
21/10/3
24/10/3


Curry
18/6/2 (steals) 44% 3pt
19/6/1.5 (steals) 44% 3pt
15/5/1.5 (steals) 45% 3pt (only 23 games)
23/7/1.5 (steals) 45% 3pt (3+ made)
24/8.5/1.5 (steals) 42% 3pt (3+ made)
24/8/1.5 (steals) 44% 3pt (3+ made)

He also averaged 4+ rebounds in all those seasons.

To me, he has been a borderline star since the start, he would of broken out in his 3rd year (same as Davis) if it wasnt for his injuries.
In his 4th, 5th, 6th season... he is MVP level player... but Warriors were not elite in year 4 and 5.

Curry has been a star within his first 3 years in the NBA...

Again, Kerr traded Stoudemire for him for a reason... only for Don Nelson to back down on that.... again think about that for a second.

Curry was a star for years already.