Free Agency Thread -David West to Spurs for free

jakecronus8 · Post #3501 » by **jakecronus8** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 11:49 pm

Villanoeyebrows wrote:Anyone have any sensible Dirk trades? This Deandre Jordan fiasco might be a blessing in disguise, and provide the justification for him to slide in to a supporting role on a contender.

I wonder if Memphis could cough up enough to make it worth It for Dallas to open the cage and let the big German fly free. I can't see anything that makes sense with the other big timers (Spurs, Warriors, Cavs, Bulls, Heat) and of course you can rule the Clips out.

If I'm not mistaken, Dirk, Kobe and Carmelo are the only guys in the league with a no-trade clause. Even if he'd be willing to come here, we're not close enough to contending for him to put us over the top.

Licensed to Il · Post #3502 » by **Licensed to Il** » Thu Jul 9, 2015 11:54 pm

No I don't think Dirk would come here. It would have to be a top 6 type team where he could put them over the top. If he is going to chase records and just be appreciated he will stay in Dallas. He only moves to another team if it changes the power structure of the league.

Phoenix is interesting, but he doesn't move their needle enough.

Rendei · Post #3503 » by **Rendei** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:06 am

Going after Dirk is what made Cuban want to destroy Morey at every turn. I'd rather just leave the Mavs in peace or offer them legitimate help.

GrandAdmiralDan · Post #3504 » by **GrandAdmiralDan** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:11 am

Dirk is not going to leave Dallas. He's won his championship there already. He's a Mav for life

Ayt · Post #3505 » by **Ayt** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:13 am

tyland wrote:Have no idea why Dallas upped their offer to Matthews. As much as I love his game, he is coming off a bloody Achilles injury. He may never be the same. Why pay him the max over 4 years.

That Matthews deal is bonkers given his injury.

Licensed to Il · Post #3506 » by **Licensed to Il** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:24 am

GrandAdmiralDan wrote:Dirk is not going to leave Dallas. He's won his championship there already. He's a Mav for life

If Dirk wants it to happen, it could. Cuban would trade him if he requested it. No one wants to watch Dirk heroically drag the Mavs to the 11th seed.

Licensed to Il · Post #3507 » by **Licensed to Il** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:28 am

I get the bad blood with the Mavs and Rockets front offices... But Dirk to Houston makes the most sense. The Mavs need to tank and rebuild, if they are not bottom 7 then Boston gets their pick. I have to think even Mavs fans would rather watch Dirk make one last playoff run as a difference maker, even on an in state rival. It would be more Molitor than Favre.

SkilesTheLimit · Post #3508 » by **SkilesTheLimit** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 12:29 am

Dirk will pen the article "I'm coming HOME" as he embarks on a journey back to the team that drafted him in 1998.

worthlessBucks · Post #3509 » by **worthlessBucks** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:28 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Count me in for PJ3. No risk/potentially high reward.

All day.

Smells like a Hinkie move for sure though if OKC is giving him away to clear salary.

Post #3510 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 3:54 am

Enes Kanter....luckiest man on earth. Looked like he might run out of suitors to deliver his max offer sheet to him. But he got it.

Frank Nova · Post #3511 » by **Frank Nova** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:30 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Enes Kanter....luckiest man on earth. Looked like he might run out of suitors to deliver his max offer sheet to him. But he got it.

With Ibaka Adams and McGary I'd imagine they let Kanter walk at that price. I mean I know I would. I'm ecstatic about Monroe and I know if we had whiffed on Moose and 3yr 50mil at Kanter was the consolation, I'd be pretty upset. And I like Kanter, he's just horrendous on 1 side and not good enough to overcompensate on the other. No way is he worth that type of coin. Kanter is probably worth about 2mil less than Robin Lopez IMO.

Post #3512 » by **paulpressey25** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:35 am

weezybaby856 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Enes Kanter....luckiest man on earth. Looked like he might run out of suitors to deliver his max offer sheet to him. But he got it.

With Ibaka Adams and McGary I'd imagine they let Kanter walk at that price. I mean I know I would. I'm ecstatic about Monroe and I know if we had whiffed on Moose and 3yr 50mil at Kanter was the consolation, I'd be pretty upset. And I like Kanter, he's just horrendous on 1 side and not good enough to overcompensate on the other. No way is he worth that type of coin. Kanter is probably worth about 2mil less than Robin Lopez IMO.

OKC will match. No other choice if they want to keep Durant next year.

Frank Nova · Post #3513 » by **Frank Nova** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 4:47 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
weezybaby856 wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Enes Kanter....luckiest man on earth. Looked like he might run out of suitors to deliver his max offer sheet to him. But he got it.

With Ibaka Adams and McGary I'd imagine they let Kanter walk at that price. I mean I know I would. I'm ecstatic about Monroe and I know if we had whiffed on Moose and 3yr 50mil at Kanter was the consolation, I'd be pretty upset. And I like Kanter, he's just horrendous on 1 side and not good enough to overcompensate on the other. No way is he worth that type of coin. Kanter is probably worth about 2mil less than Robin Lopez IMO.

OKC will match. No other choice if they want to keep Durant next year.

I believe it to be the complete opposite actually. I'm pretty sure Durant would want that money better spent elsewhere rather than basically watching it burn every time he gets disgusted with Kanter getting scored on constantly and not passing him the ball enough. I find it hard to believe that keeping Kanter on a bad contract is something Durant thinks is a deal closer.

paul · Post #3514 » by **paul** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:31 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619392514642948096[/tweet]

Um, wot?

Oh how the might have fallen....

paul · Post #3515 » by **paul** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:33 am

paulpressey25 wrote:Enes Kanter....luckiest man on earth. Looked like he might run out of suitors to deliver his max offer sheet to him. But he got it.

I have no response to Enes Kanter getting a max offer sheet other than lol. LOLOLOLOL. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

Spoiler:

Plossum · Post #3516 » by **Plossum** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:37 am

M-C-G wrote:
Plossum wrote:Weird that a team like Okc is so eager to keep kanter.

Limited sample for sure, but he was a 22/13/1 pt/rb/ast player per 36 on 57% shooting and 61% TS...He does what he does well, really well.

So a taller David Lee?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #3517 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:41 am

paul wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619392514642948096[/tweet]

Um, wot?

Oh how the might have fallen....

I'm confused; does he still want all the money the Nets owe him? Sure he's been bad but no real advantage to the Nets to simply release him. He's owed a little over 40 mil. If your the Nets what number to you take on a buy out? 30? Would Williams walk away from 10 mil?

Tfence92 · Post #3518 » by **Tfence92** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:59 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
paul wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619392514642948096[/tweet]

Um, wot?

Oh how the might have fallen....
I'm confused; does he still want all the money the Nets owe him? Sure he's been bad but no real advantage to the Nets to simply release him. He's owed a little over 40 mil. If your the Nets what number to you take on a buy out? 30? Would Williams walk away from 10 mil?

If they could cut him and stretch it out, they could potentially be saving tens of millions in luxury tax money. If they'd pay him say 30 over 7 years instead of 43 over 2, that would reduce his cap hit from like 21M down to 4M; saving Brooklyn over 30M.

That's assuming it works like that. I could be totally wrong as I'm not positive how cutting him works with dead money.

Get GAD in here! :reporter:

paul · Post #3519 » by **paul** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 6:59 am

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
paul wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine/status/619392514642948096[/tweet]

Um, wot?

Oh how the might have fallen....
I'm confused; does he still want all the money the Nets owe him? Sure he's been bad but no real advantage to the Nets to simply release him. He's owed a little over 40 mil. If your the Nets what number to you take on a buy out? 30? Would Williams walk away from 10 mil?

Buyout.

RayRayJones · Post #3520 » by **RayRayJones** » Fri Jul 10, 2015 7:31 am

If DWill ends up in Dallas (Stein says it's 60-70% likely on ESPN.com), Boston becomes the real winner. They own Dallas' pick, with a top 7 protection, and certainly DWill/Matthews/Parsons/Dirk can get to 40 wins, but still miss the playoffs. In addition to that, Boston owns Brooklyn's first rounder unconditionally.

Realistically, the Celtics could have three lottery picks next year, with Brooklyn's in the top 3. That's absurd.