The Great Kemba vs Jeremy Lin Debate

[MasterIchiro]

As self-appointed Vice-Chairman (Mr. KIA as Chairman) of the Husky Gang, it gives me great pleasure to launch this thread partly for entertainment purposes (who doesn't enjoy pie fights and **** storms?) but also to set a civil tone for what I anticipate will be an ongoing conversation. Charlotte Hornets fans, specifically the Husky Gang want to welcome Jeremy Lin and the SHOW-LIN-MASTER GANG to our humble board with open arms. Our whole fan base is celebrating this signing. In fact, the Vice-Chair of the Husky Gang/Kemba fanatic/passionate Kemba defender was the first poster to suggest Lin. To start the thread, I want to go back to early conversations that took place here two weeks prior to GM Rich Cho reading the board and stealing my ideas. Let the games BEGIN!

Sign me up for Jeremy Lin for the MLE. Last year I wanted Livingston but he smartly chased a ring. Hopefully Jeremy is ready for a smaller more cozy market. He can shoot and run an offense. I'd be as ecstatic as I would have been with Livingston.

Jeremy shot 37% from 3 last year, high for his career. You take that on your second unit.

Agree Lin would be ideal if he could be brought on board for the MLE

Lin was seriously held back by the Lakers tank system as well. I think he's better than his numbers show, and would be well worth our MLE to be backup PG.

Plus he's a good passer. The Hornets ranked near bottom in team assists.

So Lin really strengthens 2 major weaknesses from last season.

And he's only 26-27.

We can nickname him the Green Hornet.

Badass

After living in China for three years, I can tell you a lot of Chinese girls adore Jeremy Lin and even the average main-lander thinks of him as Chinese - and ethnically he is, regardless of your opinion of Taiwan and China. This would be a great business and basketball move. All the more reason, we will not make it.

I was just thinking about this. I could care less about the business side of things as I think he would make a great back up. But if you're Curtis Polk, who is Jordans financial genius you make this signing and combine Lin with the Jordan brand in China.

Not only would it be a good signing from basketball sense, but financially it would go very well.

LOL. I was thinking the same thing. It would also be great for the pre-season games that are scheduled for just outside of Hong Kong and in Shanghai.

It makes too much sense to sign Lin for the team, and MJ's financial model. It would make our 2nd unit lethal, along with Lamb-PJ-Kaminsky-Biz. Relegates Roberts to the new Pargo too. #loveit

[yosemiteben]

This is going to be a completely pointless thread at least until January.

[MasterIchiro]

This is going to be a completely pointless thread at least until January.

According to Malcom Gladwell, I've always been an early adopter.

[HornetJail]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

[JDR720]

Lin will start the preseason game in China, besides that Kemba is the starter (unless injuries happen).

[MasterIchiro]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

Thank you for your contributions to the early Lin talks. I hope you noticed I credited you with a plug.

My feeling is Kemba + Lin will close out games with Batum. The other 2 spot combos will vary depending on match ups and performance. The great debate looms but I foresee more harmony than discord.

[HornetJail]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

Thank you for your contributions to the early Lin talks. I hope you noticed I credited you with a plug.

My feeling is Kemba + Lin will close out games with Batum. The other 2 spot combos will vary depending on match ups and performance. The great debate looms but I foresee more harmony than discord.

Thanks haha. But I don't think there is much debate about who's starting. If there was any debate, Lin would have gotten more than 20% of Kemba's contract. Lin would have to break out or Kemba would have to have a full scale meltdown for Lin to challenge his starting job.

It's going to be between MKG, Lin, and Lamb for that spot on the wing in the end-of-game rotation. I think Clifford has enough trust in MKG by now to let him close games, especially if MKG's jumper takes the next step.

[spaceballer]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

Lin's bread and butter is the pick and roll. Al supposedly isn't very good at setting screens. In that case, isn't it best to keep Lin and Al away from each other in rotations as much as possible? That would mean keeping Al in the starting lineup instead of pairing him with Lin on the bench, no? Not to mention Alfense would pretty much negate the use of pick and roll, and just turn Lin into a spot up shooter. That doesn't sound like what Cliff sold Lin on, when he told Lin that Lin would be running pick and rolls.

[MasterIchiro]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

Thank you for your contributions to the early Lin talks. I hope you noticed I credited you with a plug.

My feeling is Kemba + Lin will close out games with Batum. The other 2 spot combos will vary depending on match ups and performance. The great debate looms but I foresee more harmony than discord.

Thanks haha. But I don't think there is much debate about who's starting. If there was any debate, Lin would have gotten more than 20% of Kemba's contract. Lin would have to break out or Kemba would have to have a full scale meltdown for Lin to challenge his starting job.

Precisely, but that won't stop fans from calling for Kemba's head this upcoming season and concocting a poop soup of an idea that Lin should eat into his minutes.

[6_Rings]

I think both play together opa Goldenstate-style.

seriously u guys should start Kemba+Lin+Batum

[MasterIchiro]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

Lin's bread and butter is the pick and roll. Al supposedly isn't very good at setting screens. In that case, isn't it best to keep Lin and Al away from each other in rotations as much as possible? That would mean keeping Al in the starting lineup instead of pairing him with Lin on the bench, no? Not to mention Alfense would pretty much negate the use of pick and roll, and just turn Lin into a spot up shooter. That doesn't sound like what Cliff sold Lin on, when he told Lin that Lin would be running pick and rolls.

Al will get injured due to his pizza addiction and it will all work itself out. High-fructose corn syrup will remove him from the lineup, as will early signs and symptoms of Type II Diabetes.

[HornetJail]

I think Lin fits a bit better with Jefferson but not with the rest of the starters. I think Kemba fits better with the rest of the roster. Kemba/Lamb/Batum/MKG/Zeller is likely a solid offensive unit from the start, and it's good enough defensively. Lin/Daniels/Marvin/Kaminsky/Jefferson would be a great second unit with size and scoring at every position. Terrible unit defensively, but we don't have the defensive personnel anyway. Kemba remains with the starters.

Lin's bread and butter is the pick and roll. Al supposedly isn't very good at setting screens. In that case, isn't it best to keep Lin and Al away from each other in rotations as much as possible? That would mean keeping Al in the starting lineup instead of pairing him with Lin on the bench, no?

He can do that with Kaminsky. Al isn't much good at anything except posting up. He's **** incredible at posting up but that doesn't help either Kemba or Lin. The floor spacing he'd get playing with Kaminsky, Marvin, Daniels, and Lin (plus Hawes and PJ, who miss the ten man rotation in this situation) would be spacier than anything he's had in his entire career.

[MasterIchiro]

I think both play together opa Goldenstate-style.

seriously u guys should start Kemba+Lin+Batum

+ Kaminsky + Zeller

[countryboi]

this thread should be equally entertaining and useless

[mrknowitall215]

This is going to be a completely pointless thread at least until January.

I think it's completely meaningful right now. There's already been angling that Lin may be a better starting point guard than Kemba from Twitter to RealGM, and it's a bad habitual trend by Charlotte fans of Bobcats descent to debate about which point guard is better over the past decade. Might as well fire up the debate early to touch basis and not deter other threads with what is inevitable

[MasterIchiro]

This is going to be a completely pointless thread at least until January.

I think it's completely meaningful right now. There's already been angling that Lin may be a better starting point guard than Kemba from Twitter to RealGM, and it's a bad habitual trend by Charlotte fans of Bobcats descent to debate about which point guard is better over the past decade. Might as well fire up the debate early to touch basis and not deter other threads with what is inevitable

NO! NO! NO! YOU DON'T.

Yosemite been said this thread is "completely pointless" so he won't post in it until JANUARY at the earliest.

DON'T try to change his mind and RESPECT his final decision.

And jdm tipped him so jdm won't make a completely pointless post either and you SHOULD NOT expect him to.

[HornetJail]

this thread should be equally entertaining and useless

This is going to be about as good as the MKG vs. Jeff Taylor debates from a couple years ago

[MasterIchiro]

this thread should be equally entertaining and useless

This is going to be about as good as the MKG vs. Jeff Taylor debates from a couple years ago

The Augustin vs. Felton debates were the best. I took that **** to work with me.

[LofJ]

I think too many people are still holding onto the 5 in 5 out way of thinking. It's about playing the combination of players that give you an offensive advantage over the other team while allowing you to hold your own defensively against them. Our roster changes give us a lot more flexibility to do that this year.

Transition/Small Ball

Kemba
Lin
MKG
Batum
Zeller

#Spacing

Lin
Lamb
Batum
Kaminsky
Hawes

Defense

Lin
MKG
Batum
Zeller
Hawes

Balanced

Kemba
MKG or Lamb (depending on matchups)
Batum
Zeller
Jefferson

Signing Lin makes us A LOT more flexible when it comes to playing different styles. And as you can see Al isn't listed in many of these lineups and we're weak at Center defensively. I think the correction for that will unfortunately have to wait for next offseason. I just hope we can bring in a stop gap to hold us over, hopefully someone that can run the P&R with Lin.

[countryboi]

this thread should be equally entertaining and useless

This is going to be about as good as the MKG vs. Jeff Taylor debates from a couple years ago

The Augustin vs. Felton debates were the best. I took that **** to work with me.

i still dont know who won those debates...i guess Augustin because he is not awful